AMD FX OC'ers Club

[suraswami]

You CPU vCore is from 1.33 to 1.39, that's probably the reason it might be running cool. If I keep it at default 1.35v then temps seems to be much better.

Also I am suspecting my 8320 is not a good clocker and 8350 are for a reason sold as 8350 (higher clocks at lower voltage and cooler temps)!

May be the board is dumb too.

Too many 'may be' nothing for sure.

Hey you want to buy the cpu + board, I will blame it on you to buy a new set ha ha!!

 

[YautjaLord]

Got the mobo today, see you all on Thursday/Friday here - i'll have screens of slightly OC'd FX-8350 on air (TR's VenomousX with AS5) here; before that - will see how high i can OC 965BE on that board.

P.S. Crosshair V Formula-Z is the motherboard in question.

 

[suraswami]

Got the mobo today, see you all on Thursday/Friday here - i'll have screens of slightly OC'd FX-8350 on air (TR's VenomousX with AS5) here; before that - will see how high i can OC 965BE on that board.

P.S. Crosshair V Formula-Z is the motherboard in question.

nah, just jump on to the 8350, 965 is history.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I have a Rev 3.0, so all of the other Revs are "great" ones to me, lol.

Yea I have heard or read that all the revisions except the 1.2 and 4 where not good for ocing. Still good boards for stock clocks.

 

[YautjaLord]

nah, just jump on to the 8350, 965 is history.

lol'd

But seriously: CVF-Z doesn't support 8350 from a go, you need to update it's BIOS 1st, eh? 965BE comes in handy. Besides, i promised the people @ Phenom II OC'ers Club to post pics of this CPU in CVF-Z OC'd, so you lost it. lol jk

Thanx for laughs, anyway. Keep headbangin'.

 

[Johan45]

Bought the Cougar 120mm fan for the CPU and it didn't do any better than the Stock SilenX fan that came with the cooler (may be 1C cooler). So did Push + Pull setup using the Cougar and SilenX gained 2C when running CPU stress test alone. Added 120mm fan on the top vent, gaming I gained about 2C overall, from 58C to 56C. Thought the SilenX is not doing good, changed the cooler to spare Xigmatek S1283 with Enermax Magma 120mm fan. Now the fan configuration is blowing upward rather than from front to side. With the new AS5 the temps are even worse when testing CPU alone. But overall gaming didn't change much (56C max). Tested the CPU @ 4.2 with 1.42v. I dropped the CPU to 4 Ghz with 1.35v I saw 6C drop in CPU and 2C drop in video card temp.

I guess if I want it to be cool running without investing more I should stick to 4Ghz!!!

I also picked up the Cougar 140mm fan, yet to install in the case. But damn these Cougar fans move lot of air and is very quiet, no rattling, no whining, just the air whoosh!!

If I get time I am going to put back the SilenX cooler + Cougar 120mm fan and install the Cougar 140mm fan at the back to test that setup.

Just curious its tempting to pick up a better board, is the 970A-UD3P the newest from GB any better than the 970A-UD3 ver 1.2? The FXA-UD3 rev. 4.0 looks awesome, will it run the cpu any better (both cooling and OCing).

One suggestion would be to try some paste other than AS5, it works but it's a bit dated and has a long curing time. I use Phobya HE grease Extreme it's a reasonable price, works well and cleans off easily which is important for me since I swap things around quite a bit.

Lol, a "bit" of bitterness? It's been years since I bought a Gigabyte board, last time was back in my LGA775 days when they were using their disgusting blue/orange/green carnival colors. Was a good board then popped. Decided to give them a chance again and ended up with this turd. Don't get me wrong, I'll end up buying another Gigabyte board down the road, but imo the Rev 3 boards should have just been shelved by Gigabyte and never sold. It's just bad PR to sell a product this shoddy, especially when it's advertised as an overclocking board.

PS: don't take this as I'm anti-Gigabyte. They're a great company with (usually) great products. I've just been burned both times I've tried them, but never burned by MSI or Asus, so that's who I'm likely to stick with. Gigabyte will get another chance, but it may be a while.

We've all been there Random, there's a reason I buy the parts I do ASUS, NVidia, Gskill we've all had some duds.

This is my 8350 crunching at full load at 4.4Ghz:

Using an Asus M5A99X Evo and a Xig Nighthawk w/2 Scythe 1,500rpm fans (forgot which model)


Maybe your board is holding you back- not really sure???

Looks good Norton

 

[Vario]

lol'd

But seriously: CVF-Z doesn't support 8350 from a go, you need to update it's BIOS 1st, eh? 965BE comes in handy. Besides, i promised the people @ Phenom II OC'ers Club to post pics of this CPU in CVF-Z OC'd, so you lost it. lol jk

Thanx for laughs, anyway. Keep headbangin'.

I am interested to see how high your 965 goes. I got to 4.1 but not fully stable on a Asrock 970 Extreme 4 with wimpy 4+1 power phase so maybe you will get north of 4.2 stable. For me, 4.0 was stable.

 

[Johan45]

lol'd

But seriously: CVF-Z doesn't support 8350 from a go, you need to update it's BIOS 1st, eh? 965BE comes in handy. Besides, i promised the people @ Phenom II OC'ers Club to post pics of this CPU in CVF-Z OC'd, so you lost it. lol jk

Thanx for laughs, anyway. Keep headbangin'.

Before you get all flash crazy with the CHV-z, I typically trey a few different older BIOS versions on my boards since newer ones typically fix certain issues or allow more compatibility which in the end hit performance in most cases. I'm Using ver.508 Beta and it rocks on my CHV-z. Works great for 965/6350/8350 and 9370.

@Vario I managed this on the CHV-z with my 965 not stable mind you and under "good" water http://valid.canardpc.com/mfvunh
I have a shot of Cinebench11 at 4441MHz as well http://hwbot.org/submission/2499576_johan45_cinebench_r11.5_phenom_ii_x4_965_be_5.3_points

 

[suraswami]

One suggestion would be to try some paste other than AS5, it works but it's a bit dated and has a long curing time. I use Phobya HE grease Extreme it's a reasonable price, works well and cleans off easily which is important for me since I swap things around quite a bit.
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After trying Xigmatek S1283 I went back to the SilenX 4 pipe cooler. This time I took bit more time to carefully apply a very thin layer of AS5 (credit card spread method, almost like very thin film), seat the cooler properly, stick the Cougar fan for Push and the SilenX fan for pull, left the stock Aerocool 140mm rear fan and CM 120mm fan for top vent. Gaming for more than a hour - this time CPU core didn't go more than 47C (45C to 47C), 4.2Ghz with 1.41v. I will test more this evening to see if it stays the same. But great improvement so far. Hopefully after AS5 settles in I might see 2C better temps? Later in the weekend I might just replace the rear weak Aerocool fan with 140mm Cougar fan.

 

[GLD]

Yea! I finally retired my ddr2 rig after 4 solid years of use. I am now in the modern age with my ddr3/FX setup. I am pretty happy with my FX 6300 and Trident X bling. Info is pretty much non existent on AMD site for the FX cpu's, like volt range, temp range.

 

[Johan45]

Yea! I finally retired my ddr2 rig after 4 solid years of use. I am now in the modern age with my ddr3/FX setup. I am pretty happy with my FX 6300 and Trident X bling. Info is pretty much non existent on AMD site for the FX cpu's, like volt range, temp range.

You're right on the money with that one. AMD hasn't put out any "solid" info that I'm aware of. Generally 1.55v and 62c on the core is what I would recommend. I have seen many setups that go over that but ... It's your equiptment.

@suraswami sounds like a decent improvent you got taking your time.

 

[suraswami]

You're right on the money with that one. AMD hasn't put out any "solid" info that I'm aware of. Generally 1.55v and 62c on the core is what I would recommend. I have seen many setups that go over that but ... It's your equiptment.

@suraswami sounds like a decent improvent you got taking your time.

Yeah I got about 10C improvement and temps seems to be steady not like before jumping all around. Hopefully it stays like that.

 

[Johan45]

Yeah I got about 10C improvement and temps seems to be steady not like before jumping all around. Hopefully it stays like that.

Maybe you can squeeze it for a few more Hz now that it's cooler??

 

[Vario]

Before you get all flash crazy with the CHV-z, I typically trey a few different older BIOS versions on my boards since newer ones typically fix certain issues or allow more compatibility which in the end hit performance in most cases. I'm Using ver.508 Beta and it rocks on my CHV-z. Works great for 965/6350/8350 and 9370.

@Vario I managed this on the CHV-z with my 965 not stable mind you and under "good" water http://valid.canardpc.com/mfvunh
I have a shot of Cinebench11 at 4441MHz as well http://hwbot.org/submission/2499576_johan45_cinebench_r11.5_phenom_ii_x4_965_be_5.3_points

Had no idea you could overvolt the 965 so far, I never went over 1.4v, but my temps were fine too, just an invisible wall I hit. I don't have the chip anymore (sold to my friend) so I can't really experiment further. 4.8Ghz on a Deneb is pretty awesome.

 

[suraswami]

Maybe you can squeeze it for a few more Hz now that it's cooler??

Sure, I can try.

 

[Johan45]

Sure, I can try.

10° is pretty substantial. That's more power just waiting to be had.

Had no idea you could overvolt the 965 so far, I never went over 1.4v, but my temps were fine too, just an invisible wall I hit. I don't have the chip anymore (sold to my friend) so I can't really experiment further. 4.8Ghz on a Deneb is pretty awesome.

Well over the winter my loop does very well, I can put it outside and cool the water. Gives you a lot more freedom to play around.

 

[psyko12]

Curently rocking my ud3 rev 4 at 4.5ghz using voltage offset to jump up to 1.36v got it stable using a mix of multi and bclk. Temps with a dk 2 nighthawk while gaming tops around 56-58c and its summer here :-( I got cnq and other saving features on so idle relaxes at 18 to 23c :-D

stil debating on getting h100i or leave it as is at 4.5

 

[Johan45]

Curently rocking my ud3 rev 4 at 4.5ghz using voltage offset to jump up to 1.36v got it stable using a mix of multi and bclk. Temps with a dk 2 nighthawk while gaming tops around 56-58c and its summer here :-( I got cnq and other saving features on so idle relaxes at 18 to 23c :-D

stil debating on getting h100i or leave it as is at 4.5

Well the AIO will get you a bit more speed but I really don't think it would be worth it. One thing you can do which I have done is create a profile for gaming. I had a profile in bios that was only four cores and jacked up to almost 5.0. The majority of games can't take advantage of all the cores you have available so this will give you a bit more oomph in games that need a bit more CPU horsepower.

 

[psyko12]

Well the AIO will get you a bit more speed but I really don't think it would be worth it. One thing you can do which I have done is create a profile for gaming. I had a profile in bios that was only four cores and jacked up to almost 5.0. The majority of games can't take advantage of all the cores you have available so this will give you a bit more oomph in games that need a bit more CPU horsepower.

Gonna try and play with that over the weekend. Currently have the xiggy fan only for the dk2 prolly will just add a scythe gt ap 15 on it as push and have the xiggy as pull. Or should I just get 2 scythes? Is the sniper series from g.skill ok? Planning on getting 16 gb pairs but theres a wide range of choices. Jaws (x,z's), Aries et al.
Heard that x's and z's are more tailored for Intel and the snipers are for all around. How bout them aries' ?

 

[suraswami]

10° is pretty substantial. That's more power just waiting to be had.
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Well played BF4 MP in the evening for few hours, temps were in the 48C range with spike to 51C, video card temp is at 69C to 71C max. So I think stronger exhaust fan will help better, I will try to work on it in the next few days.

 

[suraswami]

Gonna try and play with that over the weekend. Currently have the xiggy fan only for the dk2 prolly will just add a scythe gt ap 15 on it as push and have the xiggy as pull. Or should I just get 2 scythes? Is the sniper series from g.skill ok? Planning on getting 16 gb pairs but theres a wide range of choices. Jaws (x,z's), Aries et al.
Heard that x's and z's are more tailored for Intel and the snipers are for all around. How bout them aries' ?

make sure both fans have similar cfm, better is matching fans.

 

[Johan45]

Gonna try and play with that over the weekend. Currently have the xiggy fan only for the dk2 prolly will just add a scythe gt ap 15 on it as push and have the xiggy as pull. Or should I just get 2 scythes? Is the sniper series from g.skill ok? Planning on getting 16 gb pairs but theres a wide range of choices. Jaws (x,z's), Aries et al.
Heard that x's and z's are more tailored for Intel and the snipers are for all around. How bout them aries' ?

I have some G.Skill sniper 2133 which are very flexible the ares are good a well. I also have som ripjaws 1866 CL9 which work very well. Unless you're doing heavy video or other work that requires a lot of ram a 2x4 kit is plenty and a lot cheaper.

Well played BF4 MP in the evening for few hours, temps were in the 48C range with spike to 51C, video card temp is at 69C to 71C max. So I think stronger exhaust fan will help better, I will try to work on it in the next few days.

The more air flow the better suraswami, when I still had mine in a case I had over 300 CFM moving through it.

 

[psyko12]

Well played BF4 MP in the evening for few hours, temps were in the 48C range with spike to 51C, video card temp is at 69C to 71C max. So I think stronger exhaust fan will help better, I will try to work on it in the next few days.

Thats quite a nice range for temps. My gpu also goes around the same temp you have. But I only have the stock fan cfg of the corsair 400r. 2 front fans and 1 back exhaust all are 120 mm, dunno if I'll add 2 intakes at the side and 2 exhaust at the top... But I'll just experiment 1st so that I can still maintain positive case airflow

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Gonna try and play with that over the weekend. Currently have the xiggy fan only for the dk2 prolly will just add a scythe gt ap 15 on it as push and have the xiggy as pull. Or should I just get 2 scythes? Is the sniper series from g.skill ok? Planning on getting 16 gb pairs but theres a wide range of choices. Jaws (x,z's), Aries et al.
Heard that x's and z's are more tailored for Intel and the snipers are for all around. How bout them aries' ?

I am using the Snipers in my 8350 rig. No problems so far. I am running at 4.4 with just upping the multi. I run 44c under full load. Actually right now it running 42c and it been running full load all day well it runs full load everyday 24/7.

 

[Johan45]

I am using the Snipers in my 8350 rig. No problems so far. I am running at 4.4 with just upping the multi. I run 44c under full load. Actually right now it running 42c and it been running full load all day well it runs full load everyday 24/7.

Nice another ET searcher !