AMD FX OC'ers Club

[cdawall]

Hollow the inner fans and run fan-> spacer-> hestsink-> spacer-> fan. It is a proven technique no need to reinvent the wheel

 

[Johan45]

Yes like a shroud, gets rid of the deadspot in the center

 

[suraswami]

@de.das.dude It's not believing what you say and I do understand english quite well. This all started with a claim that the Asrock extreme 4 is the best. I just don't feel that way and thought that was quite a statement to make. My opinion is, it's probably a great budget board that'll handle the power of an 8 core FX CPU.
I might be new here but this isn't my first trip around the block, I have spent a lot of time with AMD and FX CPUs. I do know that when the chips are down you need a good solid base to keep things from blowing up in our face. Here's a sample of what I was up to on the weekend. Done on an ASUS Crosshair III.

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Is the voltage shown wrong? Very good clock for such low voltage!!

 

[Johan45]

Is the voltage shown wrong? Very good clock for such low voltage!!

Yes it was running in the 1.75v range on DICE

 

[cdawall]

Is the voltage shown wrong? Very good clock for such low voltage!!

Yea thats shown wrong my ch iii does the same thing.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

@de.das.dude This all started with a claim that the Asrock extreme 4 is the best. I just don't feel that way and thought that was quite a statement to make. My opinion is, it's probably a great budget board that'll handle the power of an 8 core FX CPU.

Gigabyte UD3 rules.

Nah it is also a great bang for the buck board. DDD trust into what Johan45 says, I have really learned somethings myself from him. I have also learned to not believe all you here about revs of boards. So far my rev 1.1 ud3 does a better job at clocking then my rev 4 does. And there was all this talk about how the rev. 4 was the best.

 

[de.das.dude]

@de.das.dude It's not believing what you say and I do understand english quite well. This all started with a claim that the Asrock extreme 4 is the best. I just don't feel that way and thought that was quite a statement to make. My opinion is, it's probably a great budget board that'll handle the power of an 8 core FX CPU.
I might be new here but this isn't my first trip around the block, I have spent a lot of time with AMD and FX CPUs. I do know that when the chips are down you need a good solid base to keep things from blowing up in our face. Here's a sample of what I was up to on the weekend. Done on an ASUS Crosshair III.

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thats not really a big statement. and its not exactly budget when i bought it. the only more expensive board that was available here at the time was the asus sabertooth(the cross hair isnt available because no one was buying asus at that time because of their RMA crisis) . and as i said asus has horrible rma. their boards are only good till they last.

and this 5ghz overclock very much proves how good this board is. I actually paid the most for this board than anything else on this PC.

and yes i do understand you are an Asus fanboy. But i have tried asus gigabyte and asrock and finally settled on the asrock all things considered. If you are happy with your asus good for you. but that doesnt mean that you will undermine someone else's purchase.


And yes i do understand electonics and engineering because i am an engineer myself. And recently developed a fan controller that has a 120W across 2 PWM channels that cost less than 15$ and is complete with a lcd display and GUI. The project will be shortly up soon in here as soon as i can find a good PCB for etching.


@ThE_MaD_ShOt yes i do understand he is saying that the asus are better have more stability and all that because they are more expensive and are built with better components. But the hard fact is they dont last.
they dont last at all here and the service centre here when i bought it was so horrible that i just repaired my previous asus board for the 5th time in 2 years and just let it stand and bought the asrock.

This was so bad infact taht Asus themselves had to intervene and lease out a new comapny for handling their rma services which is slightly improved now.
But that doesnt change that their boards do not last in the indian environment. A friend of mine bought the sabertooth 990FX board thats supposed to be really durable. It died for no reason after 75 days. He doesnt even know how to OC. now his board is in the RMA for over 15 days now and he will sell it and also get a asrock most definitely because the gigabyte ones are kinda overpriced here.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I gotta say 5ghz with what benches capable?, I myself am loose when it comes to prime95 for 24 hrs but you should be able to at least bench at 5ghz , posting at 5 is meh and proves little if anything. No offence ddd I just think 5ghz doing nothing is not smile worthy.

 

[Johan45]

@de.das.dude I can understand the distaste in a product after a bad experience and maybe there has been a " higher" failure rate in India. I'ts just one of those things. Like I said to each their own. I have had a couple of Asrock boards and they just didn't suit my needs, I don't dislike them but bios limitations really IRK me. So I stopped getting their products. I wont disuade anyone from buying something based on fanboism. I'll just put the facts out there and let them decide. Just like AMD and INTEL, they each have their plusses but Intel is still superior in just about every piece of software around, period. Even in benchmarking there's 2 I can think of off the top of my head where AMD is actually kicking arse but that's due to instruction sets not raw power.

I gotta say 5ghz with what benches capable?, I myself am loose when it comes to prime95 for 24 hrs but you should be able to at least bench at 5ghz , posting at 5 is meh and proves little if anything. No offence ddd I just think 5ghz doing nothing is not smile worthy.

I have to say when I hit 6.0 it gave me a grin from ear to ear. That took me about 3 hours over 2 days.
Speaking of 5.0, I recieved a 4170 in a deal for parts and took it for a walk last night. I only had about 15 minutes of play time so I just set it to 5.0 and 1.5v to see what it could do.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

@ThE_MaD_ShOt yes i do understand he is saying that the asus are better have more stability and all that because they are more expensive and are built with better components. But the hard fact is they dont last.
they dont last at all here and the service centre here when i bought it was so horrible that i just repaired my previous asus board for the 5th time in 2 years and just let it stand and bought the asrock.

This was so bad infact taht Asus themselves had to intervene and lease out a new comapny for handling their rma services which is slightly improved now.
But that doesnt change that their boards do not last in the indian environment. A friend of mine bought the sabertooth 990FX board thats supposed to be really durable. It died for no reason after 75 days. He doesnt even know how to OC. now his board is in the RMA for over 15 days now and he will sell it and also get a asrock most definitely because the gigabyte ones are kinda overpriced here.

DDD I know exactly what you are saying as I myself won't buy another Asus board, at least for the foreseeable future. I had a really bad RMA nightmare with them. I am rather partial to Gigabyte. They have served me well over the years. Both of the 990FXA- UD3's I have I bought used for less then $75 each. Both are great boards as one (rev.4) is running an 8350 @ 4.4 under stock volts under 100% load 24/7 365 and the other (rev 1.1) is running an 8320 @ 4.4 at 1.33 volts under 100% load 24/7 crunching also. Both are under water and stay less the 45c with the 8350 right at 40c under full load. Rock solid.

 

[de.das.dude]

I gotta say 5ghz with what benches capable?, I myself am loose when it comes to prime95 for 24 hrs but you should be able to at least bench at 5ghz , posting at 5 is meh and proves little if anything. No offence ddd I just think 5ghz doing nothing is not smile worthy.

i dont think the 8GHz and all the clocks people set are very stable. as i said i do it for the lulz. i dont want to burn my chip after all. had a bad experience with asus LLC where it shot 1.56V when i specifically set 1.4V.

another reason why i didnt go for asus and probably why they brought out a R2 version of that board.

 

[de.das.dude]

@de.das.dude I can understand the distaste in a product after a bad experience and maybe there has been a " higher" failure rate in India. I'ts just one of those things. Like I said to each their own. I have had a couple of Asrock boards and they just didn't suit my needs, I don't dislike them but bios limitations really IRK me. So I stopped getting their products. I wont disuade anyone from buying something based on fanboism. I'll just put the facts out there and let them decide. Just like AMD and INTEL, they each have their plusses but Intel is still superior in just about every piece of software around, period. Even in benchmarking there's 2 I can think of off the top of my head where AMD is actually kicking arse but that's due to instruction sets not raw power.



I have to say when I hit 6.0 it gave me a grin from ear to ear. That took me about 3 hours over 2 days.
Speaking of 5.0, I recieved a 4170 in a deal for parts and took it for a walk last night. I only had about 15 minutes of play time so I just set it to 5.0 and 1.5v to see what it could do.


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those bulldozers did clock like crazy. i think my cooling is inadequate for a 5ghz on a 125W cpu. plus i dont have a VRM fan at the moment.

 

[Johan45]

Cooling is the achilles heel of the FX line, well that and power delivery with a bios to back it up. If you don't have really good cooling 5.0 is just a suicide run for lulz as you say. I have a "big" loop and cooling for me isn't a big concern untill I get up to 5.5 with my 8 cores. That's whay I can just drop a chip in, set volts etc and go with out concern. I built this bench with the intent to go as fast as it'll let me and I set out from the beginning to do it once.

 

[de.das.dude]

water cooling is too expensive here. custom will need to be imported so there is just no need. for that 100% tax and other crap.

 

[Johan45]

That's just ridiculous. I've heard that before though and it really is a shame. What I hve built up will work no matter what system I get. Right now it runs my FX and my 4770K

EDIT: Just and update with the 4170 @ 5.3 , this one is going to top out soonn, I'm thinking 5.5 max

 

[YautjaLord]

Wassup, missed this thread quite alot.

Found NOCTUA NF-A14 industrialPPC-3000 PWM fans at local PC store, they are really loud @ 12v, but their speed & airflow are ridiculously f**kin' awesome! 3000RPM & 159CFM - two of these will cool down the rad like a champs. What do you all say, go for it? I had pair of Scythe Ultra Kazes when i had TR's VenomousX (and still have, all of them gathering dust) so i got quite used to that kind of noise. 6000RPM & 318CFM (3000RPM & 159CFMx2) - that's ALOT of air for H110's rad, which should be awesome in my book. lol Thanx for suggestions.

 

[Johan45]

Those sound pretty wicked , just checked the specs @ 10.5mmH2O sounds like just what the doctor ordered for one of those thick rads.
What the price tag on those puppies Noctua fans are usually a bit pricey

 

[YautjaLord]

130 sheckels for one, 30+ USD. Some pricey sh*t. Will go for pair by August 10 when salary comes knockin'. lol

 

[cdawall]

Eh i still run nidec beta v's 255cfm 33 in h2o or some shit like that with push pull and spacers. Nice and calm sounding at 7v.

 

[YautjaLord]

CDA, 'ssup man? Really long time no see.

I'm going for push thru rad, just like I configured the Corsair's ones. 1150 or 1500RPM each, they are quiet even at 12v, but not really doing their job to cool down 4.7GHz/1.406v. Just one and a half week to wait for salary - i'll go for 5.0GHz/1.450v to see how these two NF-A14's cool this OC down at 12v. Gonna be noisy, I believe. lol

 

[cdawall]

I slip in from time to time. A single 240 is pushing it to run 5ghz from what i have seen

 

[YautjaLord]

I slip in from time to time. A single 240 is pushing it to run 5ghz from what i have seen

If i'll make this 8350 Prime95 stable @ 5.0GHz, i'll also join the "5.0GHz Club" or how-the-f*ck-ever this thread really called.
Single 240 - what are you talking about? Case fan? What brand? Nidec Beta V? Noctua?

 

[cdawall]

I am assuming you are running a 2x120mm radiator. 5ghz stable is somewhat difficult to obtain with a 2x120mm with most chips. I have been out in lala land so that may have changed as of late.

 

[YautjaLord]

H110 - 2x140mm rad. Review is here: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Corsair/H110/ But the prob is the default fans speed this kit comes with: 1150 or 1500RPM each. They doing a great job when it comes to silence, not so great when comes to cooling the OC i have: 4.7GHz, 1.406v CPU voltage & here's where these 2 140mm Noctua PWM fans will come in handy. 3000RPM, 159cfm each - you can read what Johan45 said bout pair of these. Only problem - noise: at 12v they sound really f*ckin' annoying. lol

 

[cdawall]

Its worth a shot, but remember thats a lot of heat and a small rad.