AMD GPU gamers only - your opinion on AMD drivers?

ZoneDymo · Oct 30, 2020

rx480 user, never had an issue.

Though 2 things I would improve is 1, the interfact/UI, I think its not very clear where everything is, too many submenu's.

and 2, some ability to make sure an OC stays if the PC crashes for completely unrelated reasons.
Every crash resets it making me have to manually reset the saved OC profile, which is a tad annoying.

Chrispy_ · Oct 30, 2020

ZoneDymo said:
Every crash resets it making me have to manually reset the saved OC profile, which is a tad annoying.

This. Not a problem if the machine is stable, but I had a decade-old 530W Bronze PSU in one of my machines that started causing instability and it sure was annoying to have to reload the undervolt manually every time it bluescreened.

bug · Oct 30, 2020

Chrispy_ said:
This. Not a problem if the machine is stable, but I had a decade-old 530W Bronze PSU in one of my machines that started causing instability and it sure was annoying to have to reload the undervolt manually every time it bluescreened.

I believe that is by design. If a crash is detected, the oc is reverted, because if the oc is causing the crash, applying it again on startup may send you into an infinite loop. You can, of course, work around that in safe mode, but for the average user, this may be the better way.

BoboOOZ · Oct 30, 2020

bug said:
I believe that is by design. If a crash is detected, the oc is reverted, because if the oc is causing the crash, applying it again on startup may send you into an infinite loop. You can, of course, work around that in safe mode, but for the average user, this may be the better way.

The problem is the crash can come from everything and not have anything to do with your GPU. Just press the reset button on your case and you get that.

bug · Oct 30, 2020

BoboOOZ said:
The problem is the crash can come from everything and not have anything to do with your GPU. Just press the reset button on your case and you get that.

You and I know that, but how is the driver supposed to know? It could probably access the event log and stuff to determine the actual cause of the crash, but then, in a knee jerk reaction, people would call it spyware...
I think AMD did the right thing here (BIOS does the same when you apply problematic settings), even if causes some annoyance for the more advanced users. Those are more likely to be able to deal with the problem on their own, without bothering the tech support departments.

Mr Bill · Oct 30, 2020

tigger said:
Exactly my problem, there is too much not needed. Browser, game list, i don't need to see my game list in the video driver control panel at all. it needs simplifying and have a option on install for some all none driver only.

I glad you brought this up, as someone that does not game, and has an older AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series, would I be better off just using the drivers Windows 10 downloads? That control panel is WAY over bloated.

Deleted member 24505 · Oct 30, 2020

Mr Bill said:
I glad you brought this up, as someone that does not game, and has an older AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series, would I be better off just using the drivers Windows 10 downloads? That control panel is WAY over bloated.

Try this
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/install-amd-video-driver-only.273619/#post-4380872

Or for that GPU you could maybe just use the windows stock driver.

bug · Oct 30, 2020

Mr Bill said:
I glad you brought this up, as someone that does not game, and has an older AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series, would I be better off just using the drivers Windows 10 downloads? That control panel is WAY over bloated.

I think letting Windows manage them is the most straightforward way of installing the bare drivers. You may be lagging a little behind the most recent drivers, but otherwise it's painless.

BoboOOZ · Oct 30, 2020

bug said:
You and I know that, but how is the driver supposed to know? It could probably access the event log and stuff to determine the actual cause of the crash, but then, in a knee jerk reaction, people would call it spyware...
I think AMD did the right thing here (BIOS does the same when you apply problematic settings), even if causes some annoyance for the more advanced users. Those are more likely to be able to deal with the problem on their own, without bothering the tech support departments.

It cannot know for sure, but you should have a tick box to disable this behaviour, which should be enabled by default. That would cost nothing and for some users it could save a lot of time. Otherwise I agree with you that it's a good thing that it's enabled by default.

ZoneDymo · Oct 30, 2020

bug said:
I believe that is by design. If a crash is detected, the oc is reverted, because if the oc is causing the crash, applying it again on startup may send you into an infinite loop. You can, of course, work around that in safe mode, but for the average user, this may be the better way.

Yeah it is by design to be on the safe side, but that is why I asked for:
"some ability to make sure an OC stays if the PC crashes for completely unrelated reasons."

Aka for more advanced users who know what they are doing, which is kinda what OCing is already, just an option somewhere to click "yep I fully am aware that everything can go completely wrong and I take full responsibility, now never reset my overclock"

Zareek · Oct 30, 2020

I switched from an GTX970 to my current Vega 64 about two years ago. In that time, I haven't had a single issue. It was also a very mature platform when I bought it.

bug · Oct 30, 2020

ZoneDymo said:
Yeah it is by design to be on the safe side, but that is why I asked for:
"some ability to make sure an OC stays if the PC crashes for completely unrelated reasons."

Aka for more advanced users who know what they are doing, which is kinda what OCing is already, just an option somewhere to click "yep I fully am aware that everything can go completely wrong and I take full responsibility, now never reset my overclock"

Well, TPU forums may not be the best place to ask for that

Mr Bill · Oct 30, 2020

bug said:
Well, TPU forums may not be the best place to ask for that

I'm still on my first cup of coffee, it took me a moment to catch that.... :peace:

Provin915 · Oct 30, 2020

Been running a Sapphire 5700XT Nitro since its release. Never had any issues (neither with drivers).

Chrispy_ · Oct 30, 2020

tigger said:
How do i do it please?

Settings cog in the top right > General (tab).
The right half of that menu has overlay options that let you turn on/off performance metrics and other info.

Set a hotkey in the hotkey tab to toggle it on and off, I think the default is CTRL+SHIFT+O, and you want to hold that key combo for half a second, not just insta-tap it.

0% GPU because it paused for snipping tool, but you get the idea...

wiak · Oct 31, 2020

dont whant to set it"' said:
So I've tried the most recent one (20.10.1 Beta) and it's a merde (french for sh_..t) for my Fury Nano:
fresh os win10 September 2020 build coupled with the latest amd chipset drivers for my x370 motherboard yellding a crap load of input lag , I'd say well over 100 milliseconds.

There I went to turn on all the reduced input lag and anti-lag features in the driver only to notice a stutter in the already above and over 100 milliseconds input lag.

Will investigate by installing all the according and appropriate drivers from the motherboard manufacturer.

Thankyou.

what profile are you using? try the standard one, that disables all the junk
in overwatch anti-lag sometimes has the opposite effect

tigger said:
How do i do it please?

Ctrl + Shift + O i think it was, you can also find a graph of your last game perf in the performance > advisor > click on the graph down arrow

Apocalypsee said:
I agree that AMD latest driver control panel is getting bloated. I fixed my friends laptop that equipped with AMD GPU few days ago and I barely recognized the control panel. Some of the setting is missing and its getting too cluttered and messy. It felt slow to navigate too (could been the 4GB RAM with spinning disc on W10 cause this too)

4GB and 5400rpm? HDD is basically molasses on windows 10, regardless of what you run on it

PandaH05 · Oct 31, 2020

I currently have a 5700xt and I don’t really see any problem with the drivers but for me I get dev error 6068 a lot but to fix it just switch memory scale to .50 other then that it’s pretty good

dont whant to set it"' · Oct 31, 2020

@wiak I am using it just fine without having access to the driver features as I had the card driver manually updated from control panel.

INSTG8R · Oct 31, 2020

tigger said:
How do i do it please?

Cntrl+Shift+O

Zach_01 · Oct 31, 2020

INSTG8R said:
Cntrl+Shift+O

And you can do that even on desktop. Once game starts the OSD adds FPS counter.
Also you can stream all this to a smartphone or a tablet with AMD Link to keep your screen clean.

INSTG8R · Oct 31, 2020

Zach_01 said:
And you can do that even on desktop. Once game starts the OSD adds FPS counter.
Also you can stream all this to a smartphone or a tablet with AMD Link to keep your screen clean.

You can even stream games with AMD Link

Mussels · Oct 31, 2020

It sounds like AMD has really upped their features, i've never even heard of half this stuff

AMD link sends stats to your phone? sick

INSTG8R · Oct 31, 2020

Mussels said:
It sounds like AMD has really upped their features, i've never even heard of half this stuff

AMD link sends stats to your phone? sick

Yeah it’s like and OSD on your device

Chrispy_ · Oct 31, 2020

INSTG8R said:
Yeah it’s like and OSD on your device

People covet the old Logitech G15 for having an LCD display that could show stats. AMD Link is basically that on steroids.

Zach_01 · Oct 31, 2020

Chrispy_ said:
People covet the old Logitech G15 for having an LCD display that could show stats. AMD Link is basically that on steroids.

Still have one of those G15 (v2). I just can’t replace it. I’m using it to monitor any sensor from HWiNFO plus some general usages of system. CPU, Ram, Network. And has a few other functions also.
And keys still function well after 10+ years.

AMD Link only has some of its functionality with a better GUI, but still to all other users it’s pretty cool.

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