AMD Radeon R9 Nano Review by TPU...Not

[TheinsanegamerN]

check the comments after some ones asking about why use 15.5, they just change the data of test system by using 15.7.. 0_0"

two and a half pages in, one person complains and is promptly shown he cant read. Methinks you may have some screws loose.

 

[TheMailMan78]

I have that clown (SOny) on ignore... I suggest you all do it too until the management at TPU realizes what a forum disease that kid is...

Anyhoo, I just would have like the common courtesy to be told I wasn't getting any.. That way, I wouldn't have to bug them.

Meh. He's using LED fans on his cooler. That should have been my first warning.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

@Pill Monster take the chill pill before it happens mate. it helps =)

 

[btarunr]

check the comments after some ones asking about why use 15.5, they just change the data of test system by using 15.7.. 0_0"

Because we had put the note about 15.7 below 15.5, and some people didn't read the whole 3 lines before posting. We then neanderthal-proofed that table by pushing the 15.7 bullet-point up and adding more redundant words.

 

[Bansaku]

Lisa Su needs to be replaced ASAP, AMD's decent has only been accelerated by her appointment.

Women running tech companies......sigh.......Soon AMD and Reddit can share war stories over coffee in the unemployment line.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

If you want lighting, get an LED strip, not fancy fans with bulbs in it. Only use those for casing fans.

 

[Frick]

I'm betting my tits Toms Hardware is getting one.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

Being an all-green fan after making the switch, I have to say that AMD has lost it's fighting spirit against Intel & Nvidia across all levels of marketing, be it tablets, laptops, desktops or office PCs.

 

[yogurt_21]

so this is either AMD trying to avoid reviews and hoping people will buy without one, or it truly is super limited in quantity and only a few will exist.

wasn't going to buy one but it does seem to be a carrot on a stick type situation

 

[vega22]

when they said earlier in the year that they were cutting back review samples to cut cost it was obvious what they were doing.

i thought the fury x samples would be an indication of who would continue to get samples.

but to not send fucking w1zzard one....

poor show amd, poor show.

 

[Pill Monster]

@Pill Monster take the chill pill before it happens mate. it helps =)

Hehe....but I feel so much better now....

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

AMD's Fury X was one of the card I got on the hype train. Was looking forward to it's smaller equivalent; the R9 Nano. But when I read this when it was posted on FB, my expectations crushed me along with the hype train. Now it's a train wreck & it breaks my heart. No more competition, no more sideline support.

 

[the54thvoid]

Is the ban hammer not required for two AMD semi professional marketeers or is it TPU protocol to be ass toundingly tolerant in the face of overwhelming consensus?
Nem's going on my ignore list, Sony already is but even with that it's hilarious because the gaps in communication in my version of this thread clearly show the little insects staggeringly bewildering presence.
As far as Nano goes, it doesn't matter anymore, Hawaii is just as good at DX12 as Fiji. Just need a bigger SFF case....ummm...

 

[lemonadesoda]

I just sold all my AMD shares. The company is only going one way...

 

[jigar2speed]

Instead of blaming AMD, tell us please why or how much you receive from nvidia to keep their image up and AMD's down?

Come on mate, seriously, did you even check my history before posting ???

 

[buildzoid]

AMD's PR department needs to be taken out back and shot. Instead of giving real reviewers GPUs we've been getting all the news about the Nano for no-name modders and youtubers that somehow got into the AMD Red Team Plus program.

Red Team Plus is a giant waste of money. Like seriously I didn't know that Red Team Plus was a thing until it was announced on their youtube. I still don't know any of the people who are actually in Red Team Plus and supposedly representing the company.

Give a damn Nano to people who are already well known. Don't try to create your own team of marketing zombies.

 

[Xzibit]

This whole topic makes me nauseated. Both companies don't send out every single SKU to reviewers. I suspect why this is making waves (to contrary belief if you read the other Nano threads) because people are interested in it one way or the other.

Most reference skus don't get sent out and sites have to improvise and test AIB OC cards to reference numbers. Never an up roar on those cards because they don't generate interest one way or the other.

Not sending review samples to review sites is less marketing for them good or bad. It also reduces potential revenue for sites and a product that generates this much attention good or bad will bring in traffic to sites.

To me it equates to getting upset your free lunch card doesn't work because the lunches ran out but you still want your free lunch meal.

This is in general not specific to TPU.

 

[cadaveca]

I'm betting my tits Toms Hardware is getting one.

Tom's, and Anandtech, the two review sites that were sold to marketing companies. Which kind of leaves us as the largest independent review site around the globe.

Oh, and we'll see AMD staffers on Twitch using the cards, too, and they'll give away one a couple of weeks after that "launch".

As far as I see it, the card is likely to do well, performance-wise. Price doesn't matter on halo products, and all the Fury cards, Fury, Fury-X and Fury Nano, are just that... halo products. Halo products don't really sell, so don't need wide-spread reviews... it serves companies better to offer exclusivity, like all the multi-million dollar super cars.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

No, the mistake of not presenting AMD's products in the correct light. You can't be mean to Radeon and its features and at the same time to expect them to be nice to you.

Time to remove my pleasant attitude.

Get the Fuck out of here! You have to be kidding me. Either you're ignorant at such an extreme level that simply typing in English is proof you're some type of savant, or you're a troll that needs to be put down with extreme prejudice.


That's the short response I can offer. Post ellipses, I'll elucidate.
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So, what you're implying is that TPU doesn't kiss the ground that AMD walks on they shouldn't receive a product for the purposes of review. Let's repeat that one more time, to give you another opportunity to come to your senses. In your world the only reviews that should be allowed to exist are those controlled by the people who make the products. To say you are defending the point of a mental retard is putting it lightly. I'm talking an IQ somewhere south of the 50 line. An individual who is incapable of linking the results of an action to the action which caused those results. To understand my point, let's go over why the idea is stupid.

What is the point of a review? An objective third party tests the claims of an entity, based upon what they can factually reproduce. Underwriters Laboratory, the people who give out UL certification on electronics, are reviewers. Movie critics are reviewers. Likewise, TPU has a branch for reviews. All of the cited people take into consideration their observations, measure them against what was sold to them, and then report to consumers. Said consumers use the reviews to become informed on products, so they can make good purchasing decisions. Movie reviewers may pan a movie, but by telling you why they don't like it you may decide to go out and watch the movie anyways. Cult classic movies exist for this very reason. Reviewers can't offer a 100% unbiased opinion, but they can inform you of their results. It is still your choice to go out and buy a product, so reviews can't strip you of that ability.

Now, why not have the companies responsible for selling the products guide reviews? As you seem to forget, that sort of crap is what cleverly hid the 970 memory issue. That sort of crap is responsible for quotations on movies reading that they are unparalleled masterpieces, because of cherry-picked and quote snippets out of context. That sort of crap is basically why gamergate happened. A press, biased by greed and relationships, forced consumers to flip them the bird. If you can't make the leap of understanding here I suggest you stop writing anything.

Is the TPU team unbiased? No. They eat, breathe, and think so they must be human. Humanity, by its nature, holds biases. Despite this, the only time a TPU review reveals bias is in the conclusions page. This is after they present objective performance numbers, a reasonable comparison to other similar items, and once they've made the devices do whatever they can get them to do (overclocking). If you wanted to stretch, you could claim there is a bias based upon what is a "similar" product, but you're reaching there. If you skipped the conclusions page you'd be reasonable to say TPU reviews are as unbiased as is humanly possible.


Let's, against my better judgement, assume you're a reasonable person. You aren't a fanboy, you've got a reasonable argument, and you've done anything but fling crap in every discussion you've been in for the past several weeks. Answer me one question, or acquiesce to being an idiot. If AMD was making claims which could be objectively tested and proven, and the lack of review units was not actually due to a shortage of units, what does AMD gain by denying test cards to TPU and other sites?


Now, before I hear a stream of crap, let's answer some of that question. If TPU, as you claim, is biased and AMD is on the level they lose sales. If a biased reviewer has to say that AMD was right, it would be a PR win at AMD. If TPU claimed that they failed performance, and AMD could prove TPU was lying, it would both bouy AMD and hurt TPU. If AMD was lying, and TPU caught them with their pants down, it would be a blow for AMD. Assuming AMD is on the level, as much as you evangelize them, then there's only upside for AMD. This theoretical media blackout is crap for AMD, and for consumers. To somehow view this as a righteous AMD lumping scorn on its haters is...let's call it as it is, a paranoid delusion of someone unplugged from reality.




Allow me one closing statement. I buy AMD products when they make sense. I've got a Intel processors in my PCs, and because of when I built them I've got AMD GPUs powering them. Despite this, every time you speak about AMD it makes me regret not being an Nvidiot. Every time you post I will do my best to punch holes in all of your arguments, because it's both necessary and fun. Whenever you approach these posts with logic, I'll gladly admit you are right. For now though, consider me your own person shadow. If you could please be reasonable, it would make my life so much easier, and I wouldn't have to be the counter-weight to your growing delusion and insanity.

 

[arbiter]

AMD doesn't have enough Nano for samples for even the larger sites to review? Horse shit. They do. I suspect they don't want them thoroughly tested and found to not be worth $650. They want to sell as many as possible before word gets out.

At this point a lot of people that expected a company saver outta the Fury X are gonna be very gun shy after those reviews dropped.

TPU is mostly NEGATIVE to AMD. Just look at GPU-Z which is mostly dominated by nvidia-only features and look that W1zzard doesn't even care to add Boost support for AMD cards.
Those typos in AMD reviews don't help either.
I fully support AMD in this decision. It is perfectly just.

Problem is AMD made performance claims of 20% faster then 980TI in games. Well when you seen the settings used, It was clear AMD used settings that Tilt'ed the field in their favor Badly. They used settings that were Shader based and turned everything else off aka no AA and AF to start with. Techreport did a break down of the "benchmarkers review guide" AMD put out and talked about settings they used and explained it pretty well (Linked below). So when they claim Performance of X and you get Y and Y is good 25-30% SLOWER then they claimed, its pretty hard to spin that as a positive.
https://youtube.com/watch?t=2185&v=O0sLUWlvU18

AMD's Fury X was one of the card I got on the hype train. Was looking forward to it's smaller equivalent; the R9 Nano. But when I read this when it was posted on FB, my expectations crushed me along with the hype train. Now it's a train wreck & it breaks my heart. No more competition, no more sideline support.

AMD Hyped the heck outta it, as well did AMD fanboyz. When it hit the fan it was pretty funny truthfully that people expected so much.

No, the mistake of not presenting AMD's products in the correct light. You can't be mean to Radeon and its features and at the same time to expect them to be nice to you.

Wow sad you expect review sites to kiss AMD's ass when AMD has done nothing but LIED about performance since fury was announced. As much as AMD fans would love site to kiss AMD ass, said site will lose respect and views if they were biased in that way.

 

[Aretak]

so this is either AMD trying to avoid reviews and hoping people will buy without one, or it truly is super limited in quantity and only a few will exist.

Hilbert over at Guru3D has one, and he's the best and most impartial graphics card reviewer around IMO. If AMD were looking to avoid reviews, I doubt he'd have one.

 

[Nordic]

@btarunr , will TPU do a review after release?

 

[Steevo]

What I have read in the original post tells me that AMD.

1) has a GPU/manufacturing process problem that is a stone around its neck.
2) Is getting terrible yields
3) is cash poor
4) has been put on a strict diet of needs VS wants


While we all may feel this is a slight against our community, perhaps AMD is really that hard up right now. No major recent cash infusions, declining market share, poor yields on a process that in the world of tech is a antique and is holding back their hardware cycles.

Insanity is doing the same thing again and again but expecting different results. They got where they are at by being cocky and perhaps giving too much away.

 

[arbiter]

@btarunr , will TPU do a review after release?

HardOCP said they would buy the card if they had to, would expect TPU would do same.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

@arbiter as a full-on Green fan, seeing AMD failing is just a sight I do not want to see.