AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT

[Xaled]

you were.

Those who saw amds own slide weren't.

No, all Nvidia fans were expecting/hoping slower cards and saying that AMDs slides are fake or salty

 

[EarthDog]

No, all Nvidia fans were expecting/hoping slower cards and saying that AMDs slides are fake or salty

Why does that matter? Straw man argument, yo!

The slide showed it on average a couple/few percent faster... while many didnt believe it, that's fine, but not relevant. Your boy here thinks otherwise.

Anyway, move on... who cares.

Well here's news for you guys - it doesn't just compete with Turing, it beats it decisively in performance!

I mean, this statement is ridiculous (especially without context). It marginally beats a 2070 at 1080p and 2560x1440 (if you call 1 and 2% a win) and loses by 9 and 12% respectively to the 2070 super at the same res.

Read the review.

 

[Wavetrex]

Unfortunately not an upgrade for GTX 1080 owners, so ... I personally say "pass" on this one.

And the upcoming 2080 Super announced price is too much, unless a price war is coming.
I would definitely buy one at 600 or less, but at 700 it's a bit tough to swallow.

As for 1080 Ti owners... well, move along, nothing to see here !

 

[gridracedriver]

why is every Radeon's review you, tpu, and Tom's losing almost 10% of performance compared to the rest of the network?
I still can't understand it ...

So, excellent to be a reference, we await custom at same price I hope.

 

[mastershake575]

Overall, things look pretty good. Perhaps some driver updates will get the temp and power usage back into line a little. Really looking forward to the custom board reviews, though

Agreed. Right now this card is good but not great (high temps, loud output, basically same performance as the same priced nvidia counterpart, higher wattage, no 3rd party coolers).

August could be interesting if they can get third party cards out by then. Would like the see a re-review with updated drivers and better thermal temps (maybe even a slighly bump in clockspeed too).

 

[EarthDog]

Read other reviews numps, paints a very different picture

The AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT & RX 5700 Review: Navi Renews Competition in the Midrange Market

www.anandtech.com

AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700 Review: New Prices Keep Navi In The Game

AMD's Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700 deliver better performance than Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2060 and 2060 Super, but without real-time ray tracing support.

www.tomshardware.com

It's not an across the board thing, but we can see a clear trend here of the super being faster in most cases at their target res (2560x1440).


There isnt a need to be repeatedly insulting either. If you have some support, please feel free... I have an open mind... but dishing out barbs isnt going to cut it.

 

[Vya Domus]

Interestingly, now, unlike what some people did with the RTX Super, no one complains about AMD showing the middle finger to the Radeon VII owners. A $699 card with 5 months of market and now is virtually irrelevant to a $399 card.

2 year old GCN iteration is inferior to Navi. Crazy, right ? Stupid AMD, should have waited for a couple more years so that everything else becomes ancient.

How about taking off those green tinted shades and realize that Nvidia was sandbagging for a whole year using the same exact technology unlike AMD. That's a much bigger, well intentioned middle finger to a lot more people.

 

[EarthDog]

The VII was released in February 2019. What is under the hood isn't relevant when talking within this context of performance (it happens with every release though so BFD anyway). Dude has a good point for those who felt that way... but again it is nothing new.

VII was just a stop gap to put something out there... but it's out there and those owners could easily feel that way (right or wrong). Nvidia gpus have been out since October and january respectively. The 2070 is a bit more 'mature'.

 

[unikin]

Why such a big difference between guru3d review of RX 5700 XT and TechPowerUp? Driver issues?
RX 5700 XT is trading blows with GTX 1080TI/2070Super in their test:

AMD Radeon RX 5700 and 5700 XT review

In this review, we look at the two new graphics cards released by AMD, the Radeon 5700 and 5700 XT. Both cards are based on the new NAVI GPU, fabricated at a 7nm node and capable of battling with NVI... DX12: Metro: EXODUS

www.guru3d.com

 

[Vya Domus]

Seems like for the sites where the 5700XT performs better the temps reported at which the GPU runs are also much lower, Anadtech got 82c out of their sample and in Metro Exodus for example the performance they get is pretty much identical to the 2070 Super.

I find it hard to believe that at 91c this doesn't throttle like hell, something is terribly amiss here.

Going by Anandtech, this is almost equal to a 2070 Super while being 100$ cheaper, that changes things massively.

 

[EarthDog]

AMD gave reviewers like 3 drivers over the cours of a week. The second driver, iirc, had some improvements. The 3rd driver, they did not request a retest on but it helped overclocking(?).

TPU appears to be using the first driver (19.5.1) vs guru vs 19.7.x? Maybe that is it....? @W1zzard

That said our reviewer (ocf, not tpu) didnt find a big difference between the first and second iirc... sadly we missed the boat on the super so only had the regular to compare to.

 

[tfdsaf]

Great performance across the board, seems like TPU got some bad samples that were probably damaged during shipping and are running absurdly hot. ALL other review sites reported much lower temperatures, in line with what we are used to and in line with Nvidia's offerings.

All in all the RX 5700 beats the RTX 2060 by 5%, while being the same price and has lower power consumption.

RX 5700XT beats the RTX 2060 super by about 5% at the same $400 price point, beats the RTX 2070 by 1% for $80 less.

 

[W1zzard]

AMD gave reviewers like 3 drivers. The second driver, iirc, had some improvements, the 3rd driver, they did not request a retest on but it helped overclocking.

TPU appears to be using the first driver (19.5.1) vs guru vs 19.7.x? Maybe that is it....? @W1zzard

That said our reviewer didnt find a big difference between them..

We used 19.7.1 as indicated in the test setup table, changed from "19.30.01.09-Adrenalin-19.71-July4" to "19.30.01.09 Adrenalin 19.7.1 July 4" to make it easier to see

 

[EarthDog]

We used 19.7.1 as indicated in the test setup table, let me add "19.7.1" there and not just the version

The 5700 review said 19.5.1 beta and why I said that. I have a tab up for proof but cant attach, lol.

I cant add an imagine in mobile chrome??? None of the buttons in the reply box work...even in desktop mode...

 

[unikin]

We used 19.7.1 as indicated in the test setup table, changed from "19.30.01.09-Adrenalin-19.71-July4" to "19.30.01.09 Adrenalin 19.7.1 July 4" to make it easier to see

Please retest it. There is something wrong. Anandtech also has RX 5700XT exchanging blows with RTX 2070 SUPER/GTX 1080TI. Super is still faster but by much smaller margin. Thermal throttling on your sample maybe?

 

[kings]

2 year old GCN iteration is inferior to Navi. Crazy, right ? Stupid AMD, should have waited for a couple more years so that everything else becomes ancient.

Do you buy architectures or performance?

Fact is that, AMD has released a high-end card for $699, and 5 months later is almost irrelevant to a card that costs $300 less.

Nvidia has released a high-end card for $699, which at the end of 9 months was irrelevant to one that costs $200 less.

What is the difference to the consumer? None! Both paid a lot of money for a high-end card that in a short time devalued a lot.

Nobody said that the newest cards should not be better, it's natural that they are, technology advances.


PS: Let me add this to the post to be clear... I'm not criticizing AMD, it's good that we get more performance for less money.

I just don´t like double standards that when it's with Nvidia it's bad, when it's with AMD, everything's fine! That's all I wanted to say, nothing more.

 

[W1zzard]

I cant add an imagine in mobile chrome??? None of the buttons in the reply box work...even in desktop mode...

Anyway, the 5700 review said 19.5.1 beta and why I said that. I have a tab up for proof but cant attach, lol.

Please look at the table for 5 seconds, you'll figure it out

 

[EarthDog]

Please look at the table for 5 seconds, you'll figure it out

Nope. Clear it up, please.


....it took 10 seconds... I see now. Lololol. Apologies!

But yeah, dont list it in two different ways.. it confuses the slow (looking in mirror).

 

[W1zzard]

Nope. Clear it up, please.


....it took 10 seconds... I see now. Lololol. Apologies!

But yeah, dont list it in two different ways.. it confuses the slow (looking in mirror).

I reworded it once again, just for you

 

[EarthDog]

I reworded it once again, just for you

Thanks, dad. Now it says 19.7.1 and is clear.

 

[mastershake575]

Please retest it. There is something wrong. Anandtech also has RX 5700XT exchanging blows with RTX 2070 SUPER/GTX 1080TI. Super is still faster but by much smaller margin. Thermal throttling on your sample maybe?

Retest will be when third party coolers come out (should be some more mature drivers as well).

Reviews are all over the place (new drivers, new architecture, thermal issues, game selection) so where probably just gonna have to wait it out.

I don't think him re-reviewing it this exact moment will help up when literally all the reviews posted today are saying different things (the range is huge, i'm hearing literally losing to regular 2060 in a handful of games all the way to barely slower on average than a 2070S)

 

[unikin]

Retest will be when third party coolers come out (should be some more mature drivers as well).

Reviews are all over the place (new drivers, new architecture, thermal issues, game selection) so where probably just gonna have to wait it out.

I don't think him re-reviewing it this exact moment will help up when literally all the reviews posted today are saying different things

Just retesting one game in open case with good ventilation would be needed to see if we're dealing with thermal throttling. Not a lot of work.

 

[Bluescreendeath]

It's so bad for a new arcitecture, perf per watt is still lower than gtx 10x0 (7nm vs 16nm). Pretty close to vega vii. Let me hope that navi isn't full rdna.

No it is not. In the power for performance page, the RX5700 had similar power for perf as the GTX2060 and 2070s. The RX5700 XT had slightly worse but overall a bit better than the GTX10X0s. These new AMD cards have roughly comparable efficency to Pascal and Turing.

 

[Durvelle27]

Hey @W1zzard, how’s the multi GPU performance with these

I’m planning to replace my 2070 with the 5700XT but I’m currently running triple 1920x1200 monitors

 

[W1zzard]

how’s the multi GPU performance with these

It's excellent and works in all games. Have you read the review or the frontpage news?