AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT Confirmed with 192-bit Memory Bus in ASRock Regulatory Leak

[Lew Zealand]

Compared to a 6700 XT the 7700 XT is actually is getting a significant uplift. 2560 to 3456 or 3072 and double the ROP 64 to 128, is massive.
7800 XT on the other hand is getting a decrease 4608 to 3840 shading units and supposedly keeping the same performance lowering the price.

Oop! You exposed the 6700 XT's dirty little secret. Yeah yeah IMO.

The 6700 XT is notably core-shy compared to the rest of AMD's 6000 stack when you compare to memory capacity/bandwidth. It really should have 2816 to 3072 cores, even with the lower ROP count. However at least it's price in line with it's lower performance so I guess that's ok??

 

[Minus Infinity]

Huh, the 7800XT is the 4070 competitor, NOT the 7700XT. 4070 will decimate the 7700XT, which is a 4060 Ti competitor. 7700XT will probably beat the 4060 Ti at 1440p and 4K. 7800XT will trade blows with 6900XT at best except in RT and maybe get to 4070 levels in some titles, lose in some, win in some. Won't touch the 4070 Ti.

 

[Icon Charlie]

After seeing the GPU sizes of the 7000 series, I'm almost positive that they are using as much as the defective GPU chiplets that are just getting clipped in the creation process. Since Silicon Wafers are circular in nature there are those chiplets that are 80 to 90+ % etched on the wafer.

It's not a bad idea. Using up material that would normally be thrown away to make a new product is always a good idea.

But the pricing that AMD has implemented is way out of skew. And yea one of the GPU's I looked at is a different build all together but the rest?

Well IMHO that is what they are doing. It's the pretty much the same thing as cutting down a larger chiplet except they are using defect parts that were created in the wafer process and cutting them into functional components.

 

[Minus Infinity]

After seeing the GPU sizes of the 7000 series, I'm almost positive that they are using as much as the defective GPU chiplets that are just getting clipped in the creation process. Since Silicon Wafers are circular in nature there are those chiplets that are 80 to 90+ % etched on the wafer.

It's not a bad idea. Using up material that would normally be thrown away to make a new product is always a good idea.

But the pricing that AMD has implemented is way out of skew. And yea one of the GPU's I looked at is a different build all together but the rest?

Well IMHO that is what they are doing. It's the pretty much the same thing as cutting down a larger chiplet except they are using defect parts that were created in the wafer process and cutting them into functional components.

That makes no sense. N32 is not N31 defective dies. Totally different die design.

 

[SunWukong]

We'll see how much it's priced at. Seeing as how garbage both the 4060ti are, AMD can just price whatever they want.

 

[Minus Infinity]

We'll see how much it's priced at. Seeing as how garbage both the 4060ti are, AMD can just price whatever they want.

If we can believe rumours: 7800XT ~ $549-599, 7700XT $449-499

 

[SunWukong]

If we can believe rumours: 7800XT ~ $549-599, 7700XT $449-499

$550 7800XT ~6950XT
$450 7800 ~6800XT
$350 7700XT ~6800

They can easily make room for a 3rd card. But if the 7700XT's performance is between a 6750XT and 6800, for $450 is quite a lot and with only 12GB. So let's say it's not quite a 6800 but a 3070ti. If it's a direct replacement for the 6800 then there's no way I'm paying $450 for a 12GB card.

 

[Od1sseas]

$550 7800XT ~6950XT
$450 7800 ~6800XT
$350 7700XT ~6800

They can easily make room for a 3rd card. But if the 7700XT's performance is between a 6750XT and 6800, for $450 is quite a lot and with only 12GB. So let's say it's not quite a 6800 but a 3070ti. If it's a direct replacement for the 6800 then there's no way I'm paying $450 for a 12GB card.

now even 12gigs ain't enough? damn

 

[ARF]

now even 12gigs ain't enough? damn

12 GB is not enough. I join the people who say no to 12 GB.

8 GB is low-end 1080p for some games. 24 GB is ultra-high-end 2160p. 16 GB is upper mid-range for 1440p/2160p. 20 GB is high-end for 2160p.
Then, what is 12 GB? Upper low-end?

 

[Calatinus]

Very often, actually. I upgraded Radeon HD 4890 to Radeon HD 6870 (which was on par performance wise with Radeon HD 5870).

Users can safely upgrade their RTX 3090s with new RTX 4090. Because the performance difference is substantial:

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No one wants to upgrade to a fire hazard for which NVidia is very dodgy in regards to RMAing it in case it happens.

 

[Macro Device]

Probably not worth upgrading from my current 6700 XT..

It's a SIDEgrade. Upgrading is when you can notice changes.

Everything below 7900 XTX (given you don't have miraculous discounts) is complete balls anyway. You have no reason to bother.

have a heat-prone 6700xt (msi mech) so it's more a convenience upgrade

Just buy a better cooling solution.

 

[N/A]

So you are saying you will not notice changes with 35% more streaming processors 3584 vs 2560. and 100% ROPs. What gives, how to impress.
this is the PS5 pro GPU. apart from having the 33% less bits on the memory side but that is a shared CPU bus. 7700 runs cicles arount the 6700.

 

[ARF]

So you are saying you will not notice changes with 35% more streaming processors 3584 vs 2560. and 100% ROPs. What gives, how to impress.
this is the PS5 pro GPU. apart from having the 33% less bits on the memory side but that is a shared CPU bus. 7700 runs cicles arount the 6700.

Doubtful. Maybe 5-10-15% performance difference max. The card will be ruined by the same low VRAM buffer of only 12 GB. Should have been 16 GB, at least.
Also, the cut down RX 7700 will not receive the full 128 ROPs as is the reported configuration of Navi 32. But rather only 96 ROPs.

 

[Icon Charlie]

That makes no sense. N32 is not N31 defective dies. Totally different die design.

I am aware of the 2 different Skews.

As posted in my previous posting.

And yea one of the GPU's I looked at is a different build all together but the rest?

 

[ViperXZ]

if the pricing is good and performance good enough this could be a hit. since geforce has awkward pricing and vram amounts