AMD Readies Two More FX Series Processors

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

AvonX said:
I think you are wrong.
Check here: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A89GTD_PROUSB3/#CPUS

that is my board

check the socket for yourself as AM3+ CPUs do not fit AM3 Sockets, Only your CPU can fit AM3+ Socket not the other way around.

the way companies did the fix was change the socket color which added a pin, all companies had to revise the boards. Its No bios mod its a physical limitation.

AM3 Socket and CPU are 941 Pins, AM3+ Socket and CPU are 942. You can use a 941 Pin CPU (AM3, Phenom 2) in a 942 Pin Socket(AM3+, FX), You cant use a 942 Pin CPU (FX, AM3+) in a 941 Pin socket (AM3, Phenom 2)

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

I know there is an extra pin on the am3+ boards.
I have not tried to install physically an fx processor on my board since i don't have one.
But the question is what pin count does the fx processors have?
And why asus haves this fx processors as compatible with my board with beta bios?
And its not only my board.many others as well am3 boards support fx processors with beta bios.
But not all of them.
And from other vendor boards as well,not only asus.

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

you might be correct about this.i dont know,
then its a mistake from asus to have that there.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

FX have 942 Pins, and The companies released revision 2 boards

AvonX said:
I know there is an extra pin on the am3+ boards.
I have not tried to install physically an fx processor on my board since i don't have one.
But the question is what pin count does the fx processors have?
And why asus haves this fx processors as compatible with my board with beta bios?
And its not only my board.many others as well am3 boards support fx processors with beta bios.
But not all of them.
And from other vendor boards as well,not only asus.

Norton · Mar 21, 2012

AvonX said:
I know there is an extra pin on the am3+ boards.
I have not tried to install physically an fx processor on my board since i don't have one.
But the question is what pin count does the fx processors have?
And why asus haves this fx processors as compatible with my board with beta bios?
And its not only my board.many others as well am3 boards support fx processors with beta bios.
But not all of them.
And from other vendor boards as well,not only asus.

Both Phenom II (AM3) and FX (AM3+) use a 938-pin micro-PGA package. AM3+ will physically fit in an AM3 socket (BIOS support is necessary from board manufacturer)

References (CPU)*
*from CPU World
AMD Phenom II
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Phenom II X4 955 - HDX955FBK4DGI.html

AMD FX
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series FX-8150.html

Additional references (Socket compatibility)
http://whatswithjeff.com/amd-black-am3b-socket/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM3

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

so it fits my board.
they would be crazy to have bios for my board in the official website of asus and not to support the fx processors.
I have tried those beta bios, and what they have done they have disabled some minor things in the bios,but still will run an fx processor.
That is why i said for a moded bios.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

AvonX said:
so it fits my board.
they would be crazy to have bios for my board in the official website of asus.

Just be careful and ensure pin 1 is lined up with the socket otherwise ull bend pins and it doesnt require much force at all to put a cpu in its socket if the pins line up properly

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

So that extra pin on am3+ maybe the piledriver architecture will make use of that specific pin.
Making the piledriver incompatible with am3 boards but compatible with am3+
And its still is not sure,it all comes down to bios.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

AvonX said:
So that extra pin on am3+ maybe the piledriver architecture will make use of that specific pin.
Making the piledriver incompatible with am3 boards but compatible with am3+
And its still is not sure,it all comes down to bios.

I just grabbed a board that was AM3+ which is compatible with AM3, but im still unsure if AM3 boards are compatible with FX

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

eidairaman1 said:
I just grabbed a board that was AM3+ which is compatible with AM3, but im still unsure if AM3 boards are compatible with FX

LoL
I think you have issues, you got this all mixed up.
You are confused.
What norton said is correct.
Don't make me search for photos on the net so i can show you the difference of the sockets.

nt300 · Mar 21, 2012

NHKS said:
TDP of 125W for the 4-core versions!.. thats a bit high..
i7-3820 is the only intel 4-core @ 130W TDP..

i feel they are inferior to phenom II X4.. but i guess the FX-41xx cpus offer good performance/price ratios, no?

No not inferior. FX wins most benchmakrs and currently hold very good price/performance.

trickson said:
Why ME? i asked valuable question's here.
Is AMD flooding the market or what? A flooded market is not such a good thing. we start to get lost in all the babble!

FX-4100, 4130, 4170,....
FX-6100, 6130, 6200 ,...
FX-8120, 8150,...

Ummm, this is a good thing just like they did with all the PIIs and Athlons.

Norton · Mar 21, 2012

eidairaman1 said:
I just grabbed a board that was AM3+ which is compatible with AM3, but im still unsure if AM3 boards are compatible with FX

Only some AM3 boards are supported (beta BIOSes- they aren't officially supported by AMD) and it's apparently easy to fry the power phases on an AM3 board if you overclock an FX too far on it (check that link I added on socket support- not the Wikipedia one)

AM3+ is still the best way to go for proper FX support

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

Norton said:
Only some AM3 boards are supported (beta BIOSes- they aren't officially supported by AMD) and it's apparently easy to fry the power phases on an AM3 board if you overclock an FX too far on it (check that link I added on socket support- not the Wikipedia one)

AM3+ is still the best way to go for proper FX support

Who cares i will just insert the opteron in there if it will be supported and clock the hell out of it,if it blows up i will just switch to intel.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

Norton said:
Only some AM3 boards are supported (beta BIOSes- they aren't officially supported by AMD) and it's apparently easy to fry the power phases on an AM3 board if you overclock an FX too far on it (check that link I added on socket support- not the Wikipedia one)

AM3+ is still the best way to go for proper FX support

I can only assume FX has a pin missing but powerphases on certain AM3 boards isnt strong enough to support FX 8120/8150.

i have several links for info, and from sounds of it, AvonX is goin intel anyway...:shadedshu

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...Asus-M4A89GTD-Pro-USB3-and-3017-OrochiPi-bios

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...V-890-boards&p=4989828&viewfull=1#post4989828

http://www.overclock.net/t/1171580/asus-m4a89gtd-pro-for-bulldozer-does-it-work-alright

http://www.overclock.net/t/1188660/does-my-motherboard-support-fx-8120

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/304013-30-updating-bios-asus-m4a89gtd-usb3-4100

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120210192918AAd6hhx

http://forums.techarena.in/motherboard-processor-ram/1455417.htm

erocker · Mar 21, 2012

Want to know if an AM3 board supports the FX series? Go to the manufacturer web site and look up the CPU compatability list. It's simple.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

Ill just stick with black socket to avoid any confusion and headaches.

erocker · Mar 21, 2012

Well, it's to let people know who are wondering. Obviously the black socket boards work.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

erocker said:
Well, it's to let people know who are wondering. Obviously the black socket boards work.

Ya I was thinkin there was a physical limitation as all other companies released a R 2 of the boards that have same chipset but with black socket...

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

Man get over it.you made a mistake.

eidairaman1 · Mar 21, 2012

AvonX said:
Man get over it.you made a mistake.

cool your jets kid

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

eidairaman1 said:
cool your jets kid

I am not a kid.
I am probably older than you.
So show some respect.

Vulpesveritas · Mar 21, 2012

Back on topic...
Has anyone done any benchmark comparisons of the B2 stepping vs B3 stepping clock-for-clock at all?

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

Vulpesveritas said:
Back on topic...
Has anyone done any benchmark comparisons of the B2 stepping vs B3 stepping clock-for-clock at all?

witch ones are B3 stepping?
The new fx processors?

Vulpesveritas · Mar 21, 2012

AvonX said:
witch ones are B3 stepping?
The new fx processors?

Yeah the new releases are B3 stepping chips apparently.

AvonX · Mar 21, 2012

Vulpesveritas said:
Back on topic...
Has anyone done any benchmark comparisons of the B2 stepping vs B3 stepping clock-for-clock at all?

We don't know if the new vishera piledriver has any improvements clock for clock,what is known for sure is that they will be higher clocked.
And you expect these ones to be better clock for clock?
I don't want to be rude but that was a funny question.

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