AMD Readying a 10-core AM4 Processor to Thwart Core i9-9900K?

[TheLaughingMan]

But that isn't what would happen. They would be maximizing inventory that would otherwise sit unused. That's not shooting oneself in the foot, it's being smart. Shooting themselves in the foot would be wasting those unused dies.

This is how. Those dies would not sit around. They would be used for other chips like the Pro series Ryzen 2500X or 2600 depending on what parts came out defective. Like they have been doing for the last 12 years. This would help with stock that they will need for OEM partners especially if the Intel rumors about demand are true. It would be wasteful to use two of those dies to build a 10-core chip that will likely be super hot and still will not compete with high-end gaming CPUs from Intel or have any gaming performance over Ryzen 2700X or 2600X. Your HEDT shoppers would be better off going with Ryzen Threadripper if they really wanted a 2-die chip in which they would get at least 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads for likely the same price.

So please explain how cutting into their available dies for OEM chips and us 2 of those dies to make 1 chip instead of 2; and then fail to sale it to anyone because the price to do it will put it in a market place where there are significantly better options all around?

 

[lexluthermiester]

This is how. Those dies would not sit around. They would be used for other chips like the Pro series Ryzen 2500X or 2600 depending on what parts came out defective. Like they have been doing for the last 12 years. This would help with stock that they will need for OEM partners especially if the Intel rumors about demand are true. It would be wasteful to use two of those dies to build a 10-core chip that will likely be super hot and still will not compete with high-end gaming CPUs from Intel or have any gaming performance over Ryzen 2700X or 2600X. Your HEDT shoppers would be better off going with Ryzen Threadripper if they really wanted a 2-die chip in which they would get at least 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads for likely the same price.

So please explain how cutting into their available dies for OEM chips and us 2 of those dies to make 1 chip instead of 2; and then fail to sale it to anyone because the price to do it will put it in a market place where there are significantly better options all around?

Those are some interesting points. All I'm saying is that if AMD thinks they have a market for a product and they can make money, they're going to do it regardless of whether or not certain people think they can't.

 

[os2wiz]

Those are some interesting points. All I'm saying is that if AMD thinks they have a market for a product and they can make money, they're going to do it regardless of whether or not certain people think they can't.

I never said they can't. I said they won't and they won't. It is a waste of time for a card with only a 8 month window for sales before their 7nm gaming cards will be available. A waste of effort and money.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I never said they can't. I said they won't and they won't. It is a waste of time for a card with only a 8 month window for sales before their 7nm gaming cards will be available. A waste of effort and money.

That's an opinion..

 

[Valantar]

That's an opinion..

And that isn't an argument. We've been through this before.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thus my redundant response to a redundant comment..

 

[John Naylor]

Maybe GM should start building 6, 8 and 10 wheeled cars and then car manifacturers could drive up stocks by outdoing each other in number of wheels.

 

[Vlada011]

Definitely I will not buy processor before this agony stop.This Circus named "Who is better in Cinebench Multicore for lower price"
AMD will not tell customers that 2800X in games and everyday applications is like R5 2600X. Same as 2990WX. You pay 2990WX and you get 2600X for everyday. Adobre and Premier see half cores... Who buy that processors, I see gamers???
People thought if AMD dropped them in gaming segment they are really gaming processors.

Intel is completely different story, they are lost, one day news They back in 22nm, second day 560 euro for 8 cores. Every day one step closer to Nehalem.
And when AMD show higher Cinebench score because more cores people will thought That's it, he is better, he is better look...
Everything is followed by motherboards with Gen 4 socket worth 400$ and 32GB of RAM worth 300-400$.
And when people buy them for 6 months reviews will get better motherboard from vendors with story This is best...

I go to build scale models 1:48 of NATO planes and vehicles and watercooling for my X99 old 4 years.
Geekbench score 5300-28000 oc to 4.5GHz/4.0GHz Cache, i7-9700K make 6200-30000 and I will upgrade when DDR5 show up.
In mean time, speakers worth 300-400$, M.2 1TB, etc... GPU offcourse, but GTX1080Ti or RTX2080Ti when competition show up.

 

[RichF]

AMD will not tell customers that 2800X in games and everyday applications is like R5 2600X. Same as 2990WX. You pay 2990WX and you get 2600X for everyday. Adobre and Premier see half cores... Who buy that processors, I see gamers???

I think holding the 2990WX against AMD by citing its gaming performance should earn a Monty Python foot.

As for Adobe... That company is so lazy it almost defies belief.