[AMD RX 7900XTX] Leaked Benchmarks

[MarsM4N]

So, looks like the first benchmarks are leaking out.

According to VideoCardz the 7900XTX is around 15% faster than the 4080 in Geekbench(Vulkan).

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX has been tested with Geekbench, 15% faster than RTX 4080 in Vulkan - VideoCardz.com

AMD RX 7900 XTX in first synthetic tests AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX is now being tested by reviewers. Someone has been testing AMD’s first Radeon 7000 GPU with Geekbench software. The card tested is the RX 7900 XTX, the flagship RDNA3 card featuring full Navi 31 GPU. AMD RX 7900 XTX was paired with […]

videocardz.com

According to Wccftech the 7900XTX is around 20% faster than the 4080 in Geekbench(Vulkan).

They also noted: "We can also see the card boosting up to 2270 MHz which is far below its peak boost clock of 2.5 GHz."

So with the final drivers & full boost to 2.5GHz the card could even be ~33% faster than the 4080, sitting right in between the 4080 and the 4090 (which then will be another ~33% faster than the 7900XTX).

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX OpenCL & Vulkan Benchmarks Leak Out

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX graphics card benchmarks have been leaked within Geekbench 5's OpenCL & Vulkan performance tests.

wccftech.com

Granted, Geekbench numbers aren't as conclusive as 3DMark numbers, but it's a little hint at what performance we can expect.

AMD will release the 7900XTX & 7900XT on the 13th December at around 2pm GMT. NDA's for official reviews could be lifted some days before.
RX 7900 XT & 7900 XTX release time prediction US & UK

 

[Pumper]

I'm sure most people expected it to beat 4080 in raster.

 

[_JP_]

Without power consumption measuring, actual retail price and a few DX games, I cannot understand how promising this card is.
I will wait for the usual dissection done by reviewers, local stores issuing availability + pricing and a driver update or two to draw a conclusion on this card.
History has proved time and time again that purely synthetic benches are not a good measure of how a card behaves for SOHO usage, just raw computing.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Without power consumption measuring, actual retail price and a few DX games, I cannot understand how promising this card is.
I will wait for the usual dissection done by reviewers, local stores issuing availability + pricing and a driver update or two to draw a conclusion on this card.
History has proved time and time again that purely synthetic benches are not a good measure of how a card behaves for SOHO usage, just raw computing.

Just my speculation, will odds are fit in between 4080 and 4090 in terms of performance but come just shy under 4080 in terms of power consumption.

 

[Helper]

Geekbench has shown to be more unreliable than a misfiring cylinder on an engine that burns a kilo of oil per 1000 kilometers.

I look at Antutu (this isn't great either) when I'm doing comparisons of this form, primarily, when it comes to mobile phones and tablets or similar.

I don't dig the solid I/O bracket though. I feel they should put some holes down there, even if that means less structural integrity. I wouldn't want to dump 350W of heat entirely into the case.

 

[jesdals]

Show me the AIB cards

 

[Helper]

Show me the AIB cards

I don't game anymore so I can't speak for myself, but my buddy who owns one of most of the previous gen cards indeed prefers the AIB designs. Precisely, I told him to swap his 3090 for a 6800 XT Asus LC when he talked how superior FSR was to DLSS in MW. It gets like 50C load temps in one of his 4000D airflow cases.

He does dig the AMD reference designs more than the Nvidia stuff though, like he says they feel more robust on one's hands. 6700, 6800 reference and similar.

AIO seems to be the way to tame these cards. 4 slots is kind of lame.

 

[MarsM4N]

Just my speculation, will odds are fit in between 4080 and 4090 in terms of performance but come just shy under 4080 in terms of power consumption.

The 4080 has a total board power (TBP) of 320W, the 7900XT of 300W & the 7900XTX of 355W.

So by the numbers they could be, considring performance/Watt, head to head in terms of power consumption.

I don't dig the solid I/O bracket though. I feel they should put some holes down there, even if that means less structural integrity. I wouldn't want to dump 350W of heat entirely into the case.

The way the fins of the heatsink are lined up, there would be zero airflow comming out of I/O bracket.

And even if they where lined up towards the I/O bracket, there would only be considerable airflow with a blower style design. Which is thankfully a thing of the past.

 

[mb194dc]

Even if it's 25% faster than the 4080, it's still DOA at $1k.

It's a Covid and mining driven price. Not based in current reality.

If it's $600 it would be a decent card. Then the 6900xt for more like $400.

I'm waiting for a 4k60 min card that is sub 300 and only consumes max 200w. That would interest me.

 

[Vya Domus]

I'm sure most people expected it to beat 4080 in raster.

Except GB is purely a compute benchmark.

Even if it's 25% faster than the 4080, it's still DOA at $1k.

So what does that make the 4080 which would be slower and obviously more than 1K ? I mean people are going to buy something either way, so how the hell would this one be DOA ?

I don't dig the solid I/O bracket though. I feel they should put some holes down there, even if that means less structural integrity. I wouldn't want to dump 350W of heat entirely into the case.

Every card dumps all it's heat into the case, look at the heatsinks of any high end card released in the last 10 years, the fins are always parallel with the I/O port, meaning no air goes that way

 

[GamerGuy]

Even if it's 25% faster than the 4080, it's still DOA at $1k.

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I'm waiting for a 4k60 min card that is sub 300 and only consumes max 200w. That would interest me.

Damn, which planet do you live in? I don't think I'd live to the day when sub 300USD cards can do 4K60 consistently, though I wish I had the longevity to do so.

Also, IF the RX 7900 XTX is DOA at 1kUSD, what does that make the 1.2k USD RTX 4080 then? Viable, in your opinion because it's nVidia?

 

[Bomby569]

Damn, which planet do you live in? I don't think I'd live to the day when sub 300USD cards can do 4K60 consistently, though I wish I had the longevity to do so.

I've seen this before:
Some guy: "when can cheap cards do 1080p consistently".
The same guy: How 4k is amazing, 1080p is for losers.

When cheap cards can do 4k60 the ones that are now on the bleeding edge will want 8k60, people that always need the latest and greatest never learn. They spend their life playing at 30, 60fps at best, the rest of us enjoy smooth frame rates outside of CSGO.

 

[phanbuey]

Even if it's 25% faster than the 4080, it's still DOA at $1k.

It's a Covid and mining driven price. Not based in current reality.

If it's $600 it would be a decent card. Then the 6900xt for more like $400.

I'm waiting for a 4k60 min card that is sub 300 and only consumes max 200w. That would interest me.

Doubtful. If it's close to the 4090, which sold out almost immediately at $1600, if it's close in raster to that, it's going to be unavailable at $1k. Especially if it spanks the 4080, which is currently selling at $1400, and selling out at $1200.

 

[Helper]

Actually my 3060 Ti starts dumping the heat outside of the case when I ramp the fans up to higher speeds, and it's a design that is built in a way to dump most heat inside case. It's not just the blowers that dump heat outside case.

 

[mb194dc]

Doubtful. If it's close to the 4090, which sold out almost immediately at $1600, if it's close in raster to that, it's going to be unavailable at $1k. Especially if it spanks the 4080, which is currently selling at $1400, and selling out at $1200.

4090 has been widely available in the UK anyway. Just had to Google which shop at it at a time.

Once Christmas is done they'll all gather dust on the shelves.

 

[phanbuey]

4090 has been widely available in the UK anyway. Just had to Google which shop at it at a time.

Once Christmas is done they'll all gather dust on the shelves.

at msrp? Can you buy some and ship them here?

I wish that was true - fantasy im afraid.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

at msrp? Can you buy some and ship them here?

I wish that was true - fantasy im afraid.

I think the 4090 is only a problem to get in the states both the 4080/90 already got a 5% price cut in some territories although compared to the US MSRPs they were higher in those countries.

I think the 7000 series cards are going to sell decently depending on stock even if they suck at RT compared to the 40 series. I'm mostly interested to see AMDs gains in CP and Metro with all RT maxed out and no upscaling used at 4k. Nvidia's high prices seem to have done the trick though a lot of the higher end Ampere stock seems to have evaporated even though supposedly they had a years worth of stock,

I think it will be pretty underwhelming at least to me if they can't even beat the previous gens flagship nvidia cards in RT....

 

[Steevo]

I have no interest in RT until it becomes more mainstream, and until the hardware is more universal, I know we are still about 2 generations from that, so for now its like tesselation was at first, or when true angle independant AF happened, or AA became faster in hardware.

 

[phanbuey]

I have no interest in RT until it becomes more mainstream, and until the hardware is more universal, I know we are still about 2 generations from that, so for now its like tesselation was at first, or when true angle independant AF happened, or AA became faster in hardware.

I have the 4090 and play Cyberpunk and I can safely say RT is 90% bullshit. And that 10% that works is just reflections (until you realize the volumetric effects arent taken into account and on a foggy day the puddles still reflect neon lights perfectly through the fog) . Missing shadows (like in the garage at the beginning you have no shadow and a bunch of stuff is not lit properly) are still missing. Most of the scenes look identical, in most cases fake screen space looks better / more realistic. In some cases the shadows are more accurate (like when theres a grate above you with lights coming through) and reflections better with RT on but the overall quality is not good.

Basically, the current visual "best case" for RT in modern games is objectively crap compared to stock engine lighting. The best use so far has been quake 2, portal, minecraft. Games that didn't have lighting in the first place -- so like if they remade fallout new vegas with RT - that I could see being awesome. But until then - hard meh.

 

[mb194dc]

at msrp? Can you buy some and ship them here?

I wish that was true - fantasy im afraid.

Can find AIB 4090 for £1520 + UK Tax from Scan and £1574 + UK Tax from OCUK. About £1850 including tax. They probably don't ship international though, if they did you wouldn't then pay the tax. From what I can see the 4090 has generally been available for £1800 from one place or another ever since launch in the UK.

FE is out of stock. That is surely deliberate though because if Nvidia had that in stock, almost no one would bother with AIB cards.

 

[Assimilator]

I have the 4090 and play Cyberpunk and I can safely say RT is 90% bullshit. And that 10% that works is just reflections (until you realize the volumetric effects arent taken into account and on a foggy day the puddles still reflect neon lights perfectly through the fog) . Missing shadows (like in the garage at the beginning you have no shadow and a bunch of stuff is not lit properly) are still missing. Most of the scenes look identical, in most cases fake screen space looks better / more realistic. In some cases the shadows are more accurate (like when theres a grate above you with lights coming through) and reflections better with RT on but the overall quality is not good.

Basically, the current visual "best case" for RT in modern games is objectively crap compared to stock engine lighting. The best use so far has been quake 2, portal, minecraft. Games that didn't have lighting in the first place -- so like if they remade fallout new vegas with RT - that I could see being awesome. But until then - hard meh.

So basically you're writing off the entirety of RT based on its implementation in a single game. A bold move indeed.

 

[phanbuey]

So basically you're writing off the entirety of RT based on its implementation in a single game. A bold move indeed.

I've played every RT game out there. I used that game because it's the most comprehensive implementation yet.

The most underrated feature of current nvidia cards is the sharpen+ and the details filters, DLSS is awesome -- there are a bunch of reasons I prefer nvidia cards. But RT is not one of them in its current state.

 

[Solaris17]

I don’t take geekbench seriously enough to base meaningful or even any purchases off of.

Same with what’s it called? User benchmark or w/e?

Anyway wack. Excited to see what the cards can do in real reviews.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

I have no interest in RT until it becomes more mainstream, and until the hardware is more universal, I know we are still about 2 generations from that, so for now its like tesselation was at first, or when true angle independant AF happened, or AA became faster in hardware.

Define: "more main stream" ?
From what I'm seeing, more than half like almost 60% of DX12 games coming out; support a type of raytracing.

 

[Divide Overflow]

I'll wait for W1zzard's review.