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AMD Ryzen 5 1600X 3.6 GHz

Even if I were to take your position seriously, it depends on where the mins occur on whether it matters in the least.
Even if I'd care what a troll like you says, it would still be wrong in the end. Did you learn multi-quoting by now? Hey don't bother you're blacklisted now anyway. Life's too short. :laugh:
 
Even if I'd care what a troll like you says, it would still be wrong in the end. Did you learn multi-quoting by now? Hey don't bother you're blacklisted now anyway. Life's too short. :laugh:
Too bad you have to get personal, name calling etc.. I'm sure I won't miss you.
 
Will be grabbing the 1600 and an RX 580 when they drop :toast:
 
Surprised how most reviews never mention that Ryzen 5 comes with a CPU cooler. That's still a good $20-$40 you save from not having to buy a cooler with the Intel chips. And if I were to pick, it would be the 1600 and overclock it.
 
Surprised how most reviews never mention that Ryzen 5 comes with a CPU cooler. That's still a good $20-$40 you save from not having to buy a cooler with the Intel chips. And if I were to pick, it would be the 1600 and overclock it.

Oh does it come with cooler, not at least here where I live. Quote from article:
The Ryzen 5 1600X retail package lacks stock cooling solutions, and so, the PIB (processor in a box) packaging is pretty spartan. You only get the processor, a case-badge, and some literature.
 
Intel
239.99 = 7600K (no HSF)
135.99 = Asus Prime (You need a Z or X board)
30 = HSF (Just to get the system up and running. More if you want to OC)
405.98

AMD
249.99 = 1600X (HSF inc)
89.99 = Asus Prime (B350 does just fine, This review uses MSI one)
339.98
*319.98 = If you go with the 1600 get same OC if your hell bent on OC in the first place.

Since the cores wont be pegged at max you can stream to your friends while gaming and telling them how you PWND them instead of using your phone or worse having to buy another 4c/4t system to do so.



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Forgot the HSF for the 7600K since it doesnt come with one

1600X doesn't come with HSF, either. 1600 does, but you'd probably want a beefier cooling solution if you're going to overclock.

Z270 boards hover around $110 on the low end, and most should get a decent chip close to its air-cooled limit on a budget tower cooler. That makes a 7600K solution $380, a 1600X cost $370, and 1600 shake out at $340.
 
People looking at resolution should also take into account their GPUs.
With slower GPUs you apparently will be more GPU limited.
 
Just ordered Ryzen 5 1600 and AsRock AB350M Pro4. Things are looking up. I just remembered my post where I wrote I just wanted to say I told you so. So "I told you so...".

Great review, as soon as software catches up with the AM4 platform Ryzen will be way more relevant then the FX series ever was.

I think it's okay that AMD took 5+ years to make a good CPU. I mean who upgrades their gaming PC every 2-3 years if it was mid to high range at the time of purchase, doesn't make much sense. GPU only upgrades are much more likely to happen, but then again the FX series had troubles with GPU's not really doing their job right. AMD did what they could and more, but they said game developers would start optimizing for the new platform which I hope comes to full fruition in at least 1 or 2 years.

Until then, I will be just another beta tester, it all hinges on the optimizations. If they don't happen, I know a lot people who will be disappointed, after that brag they made about 300+ devs working with them. I really have no idea how they will pull it off, but I'm hoping.

More importantly though, where was this? https://www.techpowerup.com/229090/amds-upcoming-ryzen-chips-to-reportedly-overclock-5-ghz-on-air

So was this just a big rumor? Because the chips won't go past 4.2GHz on air or liquid AIO no matter what. I can see there's some record breaking on LN2, but through conventional means, there's no way right now.
 
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Thanks for the review, W1zzrd. Just a bit of a syntax nitpick.

The word 'wholesome' in your concluding sentence doesn't mean 'complete', rather, it means 'conducive to moral or general well-being.' Instead, you might want to use the word 'fulsome'. Although 'fulsome' can also mean 'offensive to good taste', it can also mean 'encompassing all aspects; comprehensive:', which is what I think you wanted.
 
WOW those civ VI scores......:eek:
 
Well, I didn't really expect the Ryzen 5 to perform that well in games. Great job, AMD! Now I just wonder why my Sandy had to die 3/4 years ago... would have loved to buy a Ryzen instead of a Skylake!
 
Good review, any chance to forsee the next big-bad@ss VGA cards and the bottleneck Ryzen and intel i5 might give them ; Saying a review with GTX1080(ti) in SLI and i5 7600k / Ryzen 5 1600(X) in 1440p/4K in some new titles to know if these CPU's can drive such high performance card combo and if that 4C/4T intel i5 limitation will be the tombstone of the i5 sku's.
 
What I'm surprised to see missing... in virtually all reviews across the web... is any discussion (by a publication or its readers) on the AM4 platform's longevity and upgradability (in addition to its cost, which is readily discussed).

Any Intel Platform - is almost guaranteed to not accommodate a new or significantly revised micro-architecture... beyond the mere "tick". In order to enjoy a "tock", one MUST purchase a new motherboard (if historical precedent is maintained).

AMD AM4 Platform - is almost guaranteed to, AT LEAST, accommodate Ryzen "II" and quite possibly Ryzen "III" processors. And, in such cases, only a new processor and BIOS update will be necessary to do so.

This is not an insignificant point of differentiation.
 
Sure wish WoW: Legion was one of the games tested.
 
What I'm surprised to see missing... in virtually all reviews across the web... is any discussion (by a publication or its readers) on the AM4 platform's longevity and upgradability (in addition to its cost, which is readily discussed).

Any Intel Platform - is almost guaranteed to not accommodate a new or significantly revised micro-architecture... beyond the mere "tick". In order to enjoy a "tock", one MUST purchase a new motherboard (if historical precedent is maintained).

AMD AM4 Platform - is almost guaranteed to, AT LEAST, accommodate Ryzen "II" and quite possibly Ryzen "III" processors. And, in such cases, only a new processor and BIOS update will be necessary to do so.

This is not an insignificant point of differentiation.
We spoke about that quite a few times here, ~ everyone interested in Ryzen is aware of this. And yeah it's true, AM2+ and AM3 had same capabilities, AMD has a long record for doing ongoing platforms.
 
It's a little after the fact now since this thread is from pre-summer but I put a 1600x in a fatal1ty x370 gaming with some Gskill 16gb 3200 and a very affordable AIO 120 from Cooler Master and this machine is amazing! Sooo happy I opted for the x, my friend's 1600 in a b350 Tomahawk and 16gb of spendy Geil 3200mhz ram can't touch my X. Even with an aggressive OC he can't hit what I do without any clocking. The 1600 is going to shine in prebuilts I think and the X will be found more in custom enthusiast builds. If your a clocker I would reconsider going with a 1600, you'll be happier in the long run if you just spend the extra 20 bucks for the X and a frugal cooling solution. I think the 1600 stock cooler is smaller than the wraith from the r7's but are still pretty good, if your a clocker your going to be buying a new cooler anyway so in the end your not going to save anything with a 1600 and your going to work it way harder to hopefully break even with the X which is still running stock settings. I run 3.7 to 4.1 with stock settings. Of course blue teams clock speeds are going to be higher, for the last decade devs have been focused on the low core/thread count on Intels. What are you going to do in another year or so when vulcan and a superior dx12 build step into the spotlight? Lets look at the opposite possibility. So what if Intel can get a competitive multicore to market (they almost have but 2 or 3 thousand dollars), probably they already had it and chose to just hold it back and milk their customer base for as much money as they could, wouldn't that kinda irk you intel people a bit? So none of that is true in my 3rd version, If intel can put out a product to compare to Zen, I have to ask you how much will they charge for it? Probably double or a little under double the cost of comparable Ryzen. So everyone has their own opinion and I will probably get some hate if anyone reads this old thread but i have to ask those people... Why is Intel putting AMD in their systems? Why did an iMac just release with Vega ? Face it within a couple years the I series is done in it's current form at least, while am4 users will just drop a new processor in their system IF they need it. I dont think they will. Tbh Ryzen 7 is overkill for gaming and if you render or have more demanding computing needs the X399/Threadripper is amazing deal for what they offer. People are building R3's for 5 or 6 hundred bucks that run Pubg or Overwatch, etc, just fine in 1080. Thats 5 or 6 hundred complete not just a board, ram and a cpu but all new parts. Just think of the money you could put toward that epic new gpu if you choose to do a red build over blue. I did x370, 1600x and 16gb 3200 and an AIO for under 500. To me thats much better value than 3 to 4 hundred dollars for a quadcore alone with almost just as low of core clocks. Black Friday 1600x were $200, 1600 were $180 and 1700x for $260 or $270. Your going to pay $300 to $350 for a 7700 and still have to de-lid to get decent temps. You will not get a lower price for performance than Zen. I am happy to admit Intels business practices and gouging have turned me into a red fanperson and I have no shame of that. My final testimonial is sure my buddy's dual quad zambezi (220w? I think and I am aware thats last generation) is clocked to just over 5 ghz and my humble lil 6 core is 2 to 3 times stronger @ 3.6 to 4.1, clock speeds. There is more to life than fps and clock speeds.
Mad love to all my techie bretheren be you red or blue and I hope you all get your preference of gear and stay safe through the holidays! (Oh and I have a little blue in my Zen if it makes anyone feel better, Intel gigabit lan ; ) hehehe)
 
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