Lga with solid pins are possible to bend back if you have hollow ones not.
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I'm not sure why some board manufacturers don't actually use an LGA 'interposer', with a matching LGA pin set on each side. Essentially the mainboard just has contact pads (like the CPU), and the interposer can be removed/replaced. AM5 motherboards are more expensive and going for anything reasonably low>mid-range is going to be $150 or more... people spending easily double that for the higher end boards would rightfully be super-p****d off if a few bent pins meant either an expensive repair or scrapping the board.
This was something I'd thought about before because there have been examples of this kind of interconnection (first time I saw a double sided compression contact connection was on an old hard-drive between the drive body and PCB - this is going back decades - not LGA but the premise is sound) - I just assumed it wasn't feasible or would be prohibitively expensive.... until I saw the new CAMM memory has some implementations where the connector is removable / 2 sided:
It would give LGA motherboards much better life-span / resale value as even bent pins would be easily fixable...
Oooopps, never mind... I see why they don't do it now.
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that's $220 US, right? Not sure why you'd bottleneck a pricy sim-racing rig by saving a few bucks on the GPU?
Entry-level wheel and pedals worth having are start at like $400 or so, and you need a PC to put the GPU into first as well - by the time you've spent the bare minimum of ~$1500 on a wheel, pedals, PC, $220 GPU, 1440p monitor, and some kind of basic frame to keep your desk chair and pedals fixed in place on the floor, why would you not increase your budget by even 5% to get yourself a 6750XT or something?
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That is what I mean 6750XT/6800/4070S performance for that price. For me a 4090/7900 series card would be overkill for a Sim racing rig, even at 4K.
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Wizz, I think the reference Zen 4 cpu should have been the 7600, not 7600X. 9600X is clearly the replacement for that in hindsight. Basically same power and efficiency. Silly naming and pricing from AMD IMO.
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Yeah, the only reason to go with a high-end GPU for racing is a triple display setup. Even 5760x1080 is a pretty big ask for $300 GPUs like the 6750XT.
I've used a couple of triple-display sim rigs and TBH the real problem with side screens in a sim rig is that they add very little to the experience for the enormous framerate hit they incur, but they're nice to have for peripheral awareness.
It's a shame games don't support mixed-resolutions for multi-display setups the same way VR headsets support foveated rendering of your eye-tracked focal point. It'd be nice to have a 1440p centre screen and then two side screens either running at 720p native or just ultra-performance upscaling from 480p or something. You don't need to focus on stuff in the side screens, it's just nice to notice a car moving into your peripheral vision. That absolutely doesn't need to be processed at the same resolution as your main display.
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Hey W1zzard, any hopes that you will be able to source a new 7600X3D from Microcenter to do some testing with? I am curious how this cpu stacks up against the new 9600X and 9700X.
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Microcenter doesn't operate in Germany.
There are reviews out already that paint a good picture of it - it's around 90% the speed of a 7800X3D, and yes it sucks at productivity. Even the 65W 7600 non-X is faster for everything outside of gaming.
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Doesn't Mindfactory have it?
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So they do.
I was under the impression that the 7600X3D was a US-only, MicroCenter exclusive.
I was under the impression that the 7600X3D was a US-only, MicroCenter exclusive.
And it is still not better than an overclocked Intel 12400
I think you need to rethink that statement.This review merits an update I think, the current situation is a little different. My numbers show much improvement since launch day.