AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU Sales Surpass Entire Ryzen 9000 Series at German Retailer

[LabRat 891]

I hope this makes AMD realize that non-X3D SoCs are not the future.

 

[RogueSix]

I got one of them . I ordered on day 1, i.e. 7/11 for €529 at 14:48 CET as per their email confirmation (Mindfactory, like others, jumped the gun a little because the CPUs weren't supposed to go on sale until 15:00 CET). The first batch of CPUs were sold out within 20 minutes (as I expected).

Like others, I made the "mistake" of ordering some other parts (which were shown as 'in stock' however) with the CPU so MF delayed the shipment quite a bit. They shipped it on 13/11 and I've been a happy 9800X3D owner since mid November .

That's when I could finally retire my degraded Intel 13900K crap and I sent the CPU off to RMA. Intel exchanged the CPU without any trouble and I sold the new RMA 13900K CPU on eBay for €334. BTW, credit where credit is due. Intel RMA was pretty fast thanks to DHL Express. It took about a week from opening the RMA case to new CPU on my desk with a weekend in between so it could have gone even faster with a bit of luck.

Had a small heart attack when I first installed the 9800X3D. I had actually first bought a 9700X and when I swapped it out for the 9800X3D I had a black screen on the first boot with a system shutdown after ~30 seconds each time.
I was cursing like a sailor but simply reassembling everything from scratch did the trick.

I'm not sure what it was. Maybe I put on the screws of my Alphacool Eisbaer 360 a tiny little bit too tight(?). You are supposed to only screw it on hand tight and use no tools... which I did, but I screwed it on a little tighter than the 9700X before. Maybe a tad too much? If so then either the 9800X3D or the AM5 socket on my ASUS ROG STRIX X870E-E is sensitive as fuck when it comes to the contact between the socket and CPU.

Anyway, it runs like a champ now and I'm probably not touching it for at least another two years or so, so it's all good .

 

[kapone32]

Indeed, and the 8700G is even better. I was a little shocked how good games like God of War look like on the Steam Deck.

What you say is true, but I feel for GPU as well. I might be getting old, but oftentimes I see improvement when looking at new games with high-end hardware only when someone tells me specifically what to look for. On first glance could be 7 years old or was released yesterday...

My hope is that AMD's APU will continue improving, in which case I'll get rid of the GPU altogether. It's just so much more efficient, power-wise...

I honestly feel that Strix Point is going to make Ally X handhelds $300 Canadian. AMD is hitting it so hard in the space that MSI tried to do a fast one and released an Intel version that well. Sold more Allys and Steam Decks and Made Nvidia say they are throwing their hat into the mix. Even Lenovo already announced their next handheld. It seems Acer have got cold feet or are waiting for current gen Vendor APUs to come down in price. APUs are where is at for me if you are a budget Gamer. Handhelds are that good and the Ally is a Windows PC with some special Asus sauce. Meanwhile the Steam Deck is a completely stable OS alternative to Windows that seems quite timely as 24h2 has gremlins regardless who wants to believe or not. That will grow in awareness.

 

[Metroid]

9800X3D may be the pinnacle of gaming CPUs and very good for productivity too, but it still surprises me about these sales. $480 is just insane to me for this CPU. You can get the 12c/24t 9900X for $100 less than that now, hell it was even selling for $360 all holidays. Seems like a much better buy.

9900x is a better buy if less than $350 usd.

 

[OMEGAjvn1]

This is why I keep saying: AMD needs to just stop selling non-X3D parts in boxed form. There's no point. Just keep the regular chips to OEMs, and put their effort for the individually, boxed, CPUs to only being X3D. It's what gamers want, and the majority of people buying PC's with a boxed CPU, are gamers.

 

[hsew]

If I ran AMD I would gave launced
9500f (for budgetoption and dump for failed igpu)
9600X3D
9800X3D
9900
9950

The 2 latter for productivity. 9800X3D will probably outperform a dual ccd X3D just like 7800X3D dod in gaming.

Literally this, but I could see a 9950X3D instead since some people are just gonna want it based on it being the best of the best in their minds. 9900X is fine as a low-vol discount part that is good for non-gaming workloads.

 

[Bronan]

Depends on what you plan to do with the Old one. MBs were pretty inexpensive during Black Friday/Cyber Monday and the stock of B650 (especially MIni ITX) is priced to move with some B650I rivaling A620I in price but Micro ATX are insanely well priced where I live. The As Rock B650 Pro Wifi is perfect for a 8600G system for one main reason. 120Hz support on the on board HDMI for some great HTPC enjoyment. Once you have experienced it you won't go back on a panel that has Freesync support from 45-120/144. I want to see how these new 360+hz panels do with old content like those Gray Market drives.

That is why I hope that this CPU puts pricing pressure on the rest of the stack. I would love to pay less for my 9900X3D when it launches. The gulf between the 7800X3D and 7900X3D was $150 and the 7950X3D was $400 more. Those are Canadian Dollars. As you can see it is already more expensive than the most expensive GPU from AMD from 3rd party sellers. We are falling further down the rabbit hole but I want the 9900X3D to be maligned again as there was a point last summer where that chip (7900x3D) was a ridiculous $343 Canadian on a flash sale. Of course they sold every single one and funnily enough the 7900X3D is more expensive right now than when I bought mine at launch.

If you think CPU performance does not matter, get yourself a copy of City Skylines 2 and get the population above 500,000. Even 1440P will bring your CPU to it's knees and more cores matter. I have several machines and the 5950X just does not have the clock speed but 16 cores is insane meanwhile the 5600X is well slower. The craziest thing is that the 5900X was the best performing after my X3D. There is something about 6 core CCDs being cooler than 8 core just by design. That effetcs the thermals in ways that you would have to own one and use long term to understand. I mean you can put a $35 Air cooler on a 5900X that you would not even put near a 5950X. Thankfully Thermalright has things like P.A. for $45 Canadian dollars to make the argument moot.


There is no such thing as significant anymore. We just expect 30% like any CPU has actually ever achieved that from generation to generation. The 2000 chips were faster than 1000 but 3000 chips were plain fast. When 5000 came though it was not as significant. Of course you could also buy killer MBs like the B550 Xe or the Unify and Ace Line up from MSI. 7000 is about 20% faster than 5000 at the extreme. Significant is transistor count and density increases but performance for me has reached a plateau in the CPU space. 5.7 GHz is on the 7000X3D Dual CCD chips and everyone is gushing because the 9800X3D does 5.2. Clock speed still matters. I got a 8600G for testing (and playing older Games) and that chip is surprisingly fast, it also blows away the 5600G that I was using. That is because it has a much faster IGPU though and not just 5 GHz support with Insane Memory support. 5 GHz is still crazy fast. I have a LM790 as my boot with a cheap 2TB SSD for storage.

Well sadly in my country the prices are much higher even at release with much higher prices than USA/Canada ever will see.
For instance my 7800X3D costed over 600 euro now i admit alot of it is taxes.
Now i know demand was big as the shop where i bought it sold in short time over 20k of this model
So black friday is not what we really have here in most cases your better of waiting til demand drops or when a new model gets released.

This is why I keep saying: AMD needs to just stop selling non-X3D parts in boxed form. There's no point. Just keep the regular chips to OEMs, and put their effort for the individually, boxed, CPUs to only being X3D. It's what gamers want, and the majority of people buying PC's with a boxed CPU, are gamers.

I fear that is not going to happen i kinda never see offers of the so called tray sold cpu's anymore they are all in a fancy box with loads of ads and useless info, i miss the time you could get them without all the fuss and garbage