AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Drops to Record Low Price of $465

[Franzen4Real]

No one stops you, or those many others, to pay for an unstable and with degradation problems, 253+ Wattage, CPU that you think it is easier cooled.
Your money.

It's also a great move from AMD to lure new customers looking for high end CPUs now that Intel high end CPUs are failing all over the place with instability and degradation problems. AMD is taking advantage of Intel's manufacturing mistakes and that's a smart move.

In all fairness, my first build coming back to Red camp after a decade or so Intel hiatus just had a 5950X go bad on me with about 3 years of use at all stock settings. It will not deter me from grabbing another 5950X to replace it, and whatever my next build is years from now will more than likely stay Ryzen, but failures do happen to everyone.

 

[thesmokingman]

In all fairness, my first build coming back to Red camp after a decade or so Intel hiatus just had a 5950X go bad on me with about 3 years of use at all stock settings. It will not deter me from grabbing another 5950X to replace it, and whatever my next build is years from now will more than likely stay Ryzen, but failures do happen to everyone.

That's not what he's referring to, it's not a natural death beyond warranty period.

 

[john_]

In all fairness, my first build coming back to Red camp after a decade or so Intel hiatus just had a 5950X go bad on me with about 3 years of use at all stock settings. It will not deter me from grabbing another 5950X to replace it, and whatever my next build is years from now will more than likely stay Ryzen, but failures do happen to everyone.

Being unlucky and having a CPU fail is rare, extremely rare, but happens. With 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs it seems to be a problem somewhere and almost every CPU might fail some time of it's first years of use. It reminds me of Nvidia's bumpgate where GPUs of 8000 and 9000 series dying sometime in the future was almost considered (at least by me) the norm.



PS They had an old Core2Duo PC at the school I was working this last school season. The only computer with a discrete GPU in it, all others where with intel integrated graphics. It wouldn't boot with BIOS beeping of a GPU error. Before I got the GPU out of the PC case I was almost certain of what I will see. And yes, it was an 8600GTS. No surprises there.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Apparently 9000 is 7C cooler from additional thermal improvements - the difficulty to cool is one of the things they explicitly addressed.

Can't corroborate this other than I've noticed Tctl is almost 20c higher than any core temp on my 7950X3D but apparently AMD just moved the sensor and made it more accurate. On some Ryzen Sku they set a buffer so it isn't actually reflective of temps.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

Can't corroborate this other than I've noticed Tctl is almost 20c higher than any core temp on my 7950X3D but apparently AMD just moved the sensor and made it more accurate. On some Ryzen Sku they set a buffer so it isn't actually reflective of temps.

I found what I mentioned the other day - I was correct on no changes to the IHS, but apparently some changes were made other than just moving the sensor.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I found what I mentioned the other day - I was correct on no changes to the IHS, but apparently some changes were made other than just moving the sensor.

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To me that translates to then basically saying F it with the older sku we will put the sensor here and just guess the temperature.... Which sounds like a very amd thing to do.

Now they've seem to just made it more reflective of actual temps.

I only glanced through their slides some don't add up so I figured better to just wait for reviews.

Been keeping an eye on that Igor guys results on anandtech with his ES sample if they are true the 9950X needing 300w to be 12% faster than the 14900k in cinebench ain't very impressive lol....

Hopefully that's just early silicon shenanigans.

 

[Craptacular]

I don't think so. For me (and probably for many others), these AM5 Ryzens are no-go. It's extremely difficult to cool them.

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That is due to AMD having it configured so that the Zen 4s will keep boosting to higher clocks until it hits TJMax, you can always override that in the bios setting but the default bios settings for Zen 4 is to keep boosting the clocks until it has TJMax.