AMD Ryzen 9 9950X Pre-Launch Sample Overclocked at 6 GHz

[JustBenching]

RT runs also on the Radeons. AMD supports DXR.

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More like walks. It's 50% faster on the 4080 super.

 

[ARF]

More like walks. It's 50% faster on the 4080 super.

Look at the prices, and the general performance 24 GB vs. 16 GB. The 4080 is pitiful

 

[SL2]

RT runs also on the Radeons. AMD supports DXR.

Judging by that benchmark alone, that would be a bad investment.

4070: $550, 59 fps
7900 XtxTX: $909, 64 fps

4070 + 7800X3D: $935

Yeah, having 12 GB is bigly sad, but you pay quite a premium for double the VRAM and a few FPS more.

 

[AVATARAT]

Some people are here just to hate that AMD had a new CPU but Intel don't and they need a new one because the old one degrades.
About how bad is 6400MT/s RAM do we talk about 1:1 or 1:2 or 1:4?

 

[stimpy88]

RT runs also on the Radeons. AMD supports DXR.

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That is a playable framerate.

...But 1.) I don't think that's using path tracing, and (the most important one) 2.) It's only getting 65fps at 1080p, so that looks like 30fps at 4K to my brain...

 

[SL2]

2.) It's only getting 65fps at 1080p, so that looks like 30fps at 4K to my brain...

Well, with four times the pixel count that's not what I'd expect. Seems to be a whopping 20 fps

 

[AVATARAT]

That is a playable framerate.

...But 1.) I don't think that's using path tracing, and (the most important one) 2.) It's only getting 65fps at 1080p, so that looks like 30fps at 4K to my brain...

PowerPoint slideshow is always playable too But somehow I don't prefer it

 

[stimpy88]

Well, with four times the pixel count that's not what I'd expect. Seems to be a whopping 20 fps

This chart is depressing...

Looks like I'm going to have to use DLSS to have my dream of Cyberpunk RT at 60fps on a 5080. That's just so crap for 2025... And I bet the greedy bastardos gimp it with 16GB of VRAM. A card like the 5080 should have 24GB, with 8GB being for the budget cards, 16GB for the mid-range, and 32GB at the top end. But it is nGreedia we are talking about...

 

[ARF]

That is a playable framerate.

...But 1.) I don't think that's using path tracing, and (the most important one) 2.) It's only getting 65fps at 1080p, so that looks like 30fps at 4K to my brain...

Err, that is full maxed out settings. If you loosen them a bit, the framerate will go considerably up.
You can do 1440p with medium/high...

 

[stimpy88]

Err, that is full maxed out settings. If you loosen them a bit, the framerate will go considerably up.
You can do 1440p with medium/high...

Not quite my dream... Mid settings and DLSS on a brand new $1200+ graphics card in 2025... So depressing.

 

[SL2]

This chart is depressing...

Looks like I'm going to have to use DLSS to have my dream of Cyberpunk RT at 60fps on a 5080. That's just so crap for 2025... And I bet the greedy bastardos gimp it with 16GB of VRAM. A card like the 5080 should have 24GB, with 8GB being for the budget cards, 16GB for the mid-range, and 32GB at the top end. But it is nGreedia we are talking about...

It's even worse for laptops. The amount of money you have to burn to get more than 8 GB VRAM for current Nvidia is a joke. Mobile 4070 = desktop 4060 with lower speed so no wonder, but rumors says the mobile 5070 will be 8 GB as well. I hope I'm wrong. Even 12 GB feels like a dream!

In EU, Ada + >8192 MB VRAM starts at $2000.

Notebooks mit GPU - Speichergröße ab 8.0009765625GB, GPU - Architektur: Ada Lovelace Preisvergleich Geizhals EU

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Notebooks mit GPU - Speichergröße ab 8.0009765625GB, GPU - Architektur: Ada Lovelace

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Not quite my dream... Mid settings and DLSS on a brand new $1200+ graphics card in 2025... So depressing.

Exactly, why would you buy a card like that, just to compromise on a four year old game? Imagine what games will do to that card in the near future..

 

[stimpy88]

Exactly, why would you buy a card like that, just to compromise on a four year old game? Imagine what games will do to that card in the near future..

Trouble is I have to jump on the boat soon as a 2070 is just not cutting it anymore. I'm struggling to get 30fps with DLSS on UE5 games. But I agree, if $1200 got you +10 to +20% 4090 performance and 24GB of memory, then it would be a fairly good deal, but we know it won't be as fast as the 4090 and will be gimped by a 16GB frame buffer and be useless in 2 years' time when all the UE5 games need more than 16GB VRAM.

It's terrible that even an upcoming $1200 card won't play 4K 60fps with RT without DLSS. But I don't know if I can do another 2 years with a 2070!

 

[Sunny and 75]

5080

Nvidia has not released the 50 series yet.

We could see the 5080 perform like 30-50 percent faster than 4080 in raster, however, the 5080 may get improved RT core architecture that will provide you with raw RT 60 FPS at 4K and by raw I mean native aka 100% render resolution.

Has anybody found out what the sweet spot is for these 9000 series AMD cpu's? Is it really 6400MHz?

Leaks suggest that the Infinity Fabric has been increased to 2400 on the ZEN5 processors and that means the sweetspot will be 7200 MT/s, others say that it will be 6400 so we'll just have to wait and see.

Zen 7 should be the debut of the AM7 platform

AM6 is more like it.

formally support DDR8000+ without memory dividers

The 7800X3D on a 6000 CL30 system has beaten the 14900K on a 7200 CL34 one, so 8000 MT/s DDR5 DIMMs sure are a nice to have but 3D V-Cache SKUs don't necessarily need that much memory speed to perform well.

I'm a bit out of the loop here.

No, you're not.

not making a high end card

That's correct.

RDNA4 will be like RDNA1 (in terms of naming, that is), so something like x700 XT will be the highest SKU in the RDNA4 lineup as an example. The ETA for RDNA4 is Q1 2025.