AMD Ryzen 9 "Threadripper" Lineup Leaked

[DeathtoGnomes]

If you knew who buys the low(er) end Xeons you wouldn't be asking this question, people don't buy a 16 core just to play BF1 multiplayer

15 cores for SETI@home crunching, 1 core for BF1?

 

[Khanivore]

It's good I'm lazy to build a new rig! Now I can look forward to i9 & R9 war to see which is a worthy contender for my new rig.

 

[Vulpesveritas]

Yes I agree that you dont have to own two different setups but what about single core performance? You think these 16 core beasts will do well down there? I am saying that for the gaming part of your pc.

We've already seen that Ryzen is rather fine in single core performance. This shouldn't be any slower than a normal Ryzen chip at the same frequency, and by the look of things we're talking only around a 100-200mhz drop in performance for the high end chips, ex the 1998x vs the 1800x. So, I kinda have to ask how gaming is going to fall behind, given the stock performance of the 1800x is just fine for 99.9% of games on the market, unless you're someone trying to get 480fps at minimum settings at something like 720p in counterstrike. But then you're not looking for a HEDT computer anyway, as HEDT intel offerings also suck for FPS-maxing low graphics gamers. People playing at 4k, or in graphically intensive games at 1080p, and the like, won't see more than a 5% loss in performance in gaming versus the competing intel chips for HEDT, at most, based on Ryzen vs Skylake.

 

[JDM4LIFE]

Well in case you didn't notice the 2600k is a quad core with 8 threads, if you don't want to upgrade to a 6/8 core then it's totally your choice, the i7 77xx with 115w TDP is perfect for you.
If you're still averse to MCP then there's always the p4 that can be OC beyond SB, with dry ice or liquid helium if need be.

I am aware of my cpu core/thread count. I want to upgrade but I think that if intel and amd is focused on who is going to offer more cores, the pricing will start rising. I think if they focused on their 6/8 core cpus we would be able to move on from 4cores to 6cores mainstream cpus. Ofcourse they should have these HEDT enthusiast cpus but not so many different SKUs. They should focus on the "mid" range more, at 6/8cores.

 

[RejZoR]

R9 1976X seems the best for gamers who also need heavy crunching. Tons of threads and still the highest clock out of the box.

AMD is really betting it all on Ryzen. And they have some really good stuff.

 

[R0H1T]

I am aware of my cpu core/thread count. I want to upgrade but I think that if intel and amd is focused on who is going to offer more cores, the pricing will start rising. I think if they focused on their 6/8 core cpus we would be able to move on from 4cores to 6cores mainstream cpus. Ofcourse they should have these HEDT enthusiast cpus but not so many different SKUs. They should focus on the "mid" range more, at 6/8cores.

I think that ship sailed a while back, Intel wanted to milk their consumers till they drew the last drop of blood, hence the 7700k cheap TIM. They also wanted to upsell their HEDT platform, hence charged a major premium for it, though it does justify a premium but not what they're asking even now IMO.

Then there's Ryzen which is similar to Conroe in that it has shaken the entire x86 landscape, atm if you want a cheap 6/8 core them AMD is your best bet. The competition will probably bring better priced alternatives, though on the VFM scale AMD will continue to rule.

 

[BiggieShady]

Funny how all Ryzen CPU + chipset diagrams are still around with their original typo, they all still have COLCK signal ...

 

[JDM4LIFE]

I think that ship sailed a while back, Intel wanted to milk their consumers till they drew the last drop of blood, hence the 7700k cheap TIM. They also wanted to upsell their HEDT platform, hence charged a major premium for it, though it does justify a premium but not what they're asking even now IMO.

Then there's Ryzen which is similar to Conroe in that it has shaken the entire x86 landscape, atm if you want a cheap 6/8 core them AMD is your best bet. The competition will probably bring better priced alternatives, though on the VFM scale AMD will continue to rule.

Well I am thinking of Ryzen ofcourse. And when I am ready to go on and order my new rigs parts I read about Core i9 and I am sitting in front of my monitor asking myself what is going on there. And now I see this thread about 9 SKUs from AMD full of 12 14 and 16 core cpus. I just wanted the competition to be at the 6/8 core lineup not up to those monster cpus.

 

[alucasa]

I game fine on my platform but I don't generally play AAA tiles. I am not someone who plays FRAPS unless I notice performance drop, either.

So far, everything has played fine. When I am rendering, I use 54 threads and leave 4 threads for my own usage, like browsing and gaming.

 

[ASOT]

I like the codename "Threadripper" Big RIP Intel

 

[R0H1T]

Well I am thinking of Ryzen ofcourse. And when I am ready to go on and order my new rigs parts I read about Core i9 and I am sitting in front of my monitor asking myself what is going on there. And now I see this thread about 9 SKUs from AMD full of 12 14 and 16 core cpus. I just wanted the competition to be at the 6/8 core lineup not up to those monster cpus.

You still have a few choices, get the 6/8 core Ryzen with the desired clock speeds now or wait for the i9 launch. Though there's every chance that even the cheapest i9 (plus x299 mobo) will cost a fair bit more than the cheapest 6 core Ryzen.

The R9 is looking to take a large bite off the Intel marketshare, customers who previously bought 5960x or 6950x, it shouldn't take much to sway them towards AMD provided single threaded performance isn't their biggest concern. Though the inter CCX latency would be interesting to watch, especially with Naples said to be the bread & butter for future AMD revenue & especially profits.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yes it is. But I dont think the HEDT series need 16 cores. Why should someone buy a 16 core cpu?

How are you managing to Know what i need.
Asshat statement from a tool ,ipc isn't magic ,it takes clock speed or more resources ala Alu etc ,more cores Is more resources and I assure you mine would graft all of every day.

 

[1c3d0g]

Yes it is. But I dont think the HEDT series need 16 cores. Why should someone buy a 16 core cpu?

Ever heard of distributed computing? Those of us who do real work on computers instead of playing games LOVE more cores...I say keep 'em coming! And yes, before you ask, I use ALL of those cores, ALL of them are used 24/7 to crunch data. The more the merrier.

Now all we need is for these 16-core monsters to be attractively priced with Intel's HEDT CPU's and we've got a good thing going!

 

[rhythmeister]

This keeping on getting better and better. AMD is going full force with 44 PCIe Lanes even on the lowest 1955 variant of Ryzen 9. This is something INTEL is still milking consumers on upcoming HEDT. 16 and 28 Lanes on their HEDT platform is just pathetic.

Are we learning yet?

Too complicated for the sheeps probably!

 

[Imsochobo]

Well I think both Intel and AMD should stop this "Core War" and focus on IPC improvements. There is no point on adding more and more cores on desktop cpus. They should stop bringing server dies in the desktop market. If someone needs all these cores, then they should consider the Xeon lineup.

Current production method cannot and will not give you more than a 10% improvement roughly in reasonable time.
although at the cost of TDP, you can have your 5ghz 4core 8 thread cpu that is the same in raw performance as a 3ghz 8 core part at the cost of Twice the power consumption.
ryzen 1800X 3.6 ghz 8c/16t = I7 7700K 4.2ghz in power consumption

multithreaded performance is the only way one is capable of getting more performance quickly and effeciently.

Core wars was started by AMD with dualcore (although at the time AMD was IPC leaders), intel expanded with 4-6-8-10 and 12 core parts way before AMD started selling cores like they did with bulldozer.
Intel is also the leader in the IPC and singlethreaded performance.

I doubt every single CPU maker out there regardless of architecture is mistaken that adding cores is the logical thing to do, the 1800x vs 7700K is a great example of efficiency with cores

 

[Cybrnook2002]

Who came up with these names? lol

NSA did when they named all their hack tools Guess they did it all in the same meeting. Maybe throwing darts at a board?

 

[JDM4LIFE]

Ever heard of distributed computing? Those of us who do real work on computers instead of playing games LOVE more cores...I say keep 'em coming! And yes, before you ask, I use ALL of those cores, ALL of them are used 24/7 to crunch data. The more the merrier.

Now all we need is for these 16-core monsters to be attractively priced with Intel's HEDT CPU's and we've got a good thing going!

If you need all these cores then you should buy these cpus. I didnt say the should stop HEDT series but they should stop competing at those grounds. Most people do gaming on their pcs so in my opinion the competition should be at the 6/8 core area so we could enjoy 6/8core cpus at affordable prices.

 

[Slizzo]

What I find interesting is that AMD is able to keep clock speeds mostly the same as the R7 and lower chips as well. This, overall, bodes well for future Zen products, hopefully they will see a clock speed bump in later iterations.

 

[GhostRyder]

Sounds good to me, more cores for everyone!!!

 

[iBruce]

This is great news, so ASUS ROG will now produce a product stack of mobos for the new AMD HEDT CPUs and X399 chipset, the AMD counterpart to the Intel Rampage Series, WooHoo!

I think Threadripper would be an excellent name for the Series.

Threadripper 1 Extreme = T1E
Threadripper 1 Apex = T1A

AMD buyers desperately need more ROG board choices other than the one Crosshair VI Hero, C6H.

...although I would guess ROG is extremely busy right about now, so many new boards to produce, for the red and the blue.

Believe I'll go with the R6E and an 8-core or the T1E and a 12-core.

Keep that HEDT news coming Lord Ravenholm!

"We don't go to Ravenholm!"

 

[Captain_Tom]

What the fck are these names? Also, ryzen 9, really?

I mean they might as well if Intel is going "i9"

 

[oxidized]

I mean they might as well if Intel is going "i9"

That's stupid from intel too but, why do something stupid? Whatever...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

If you need all these cores then you should buy these cpus. I didnt say the should stop HEDT series but they should stop competing at those grounds. Most people do gaming on their pcs so in my opinion the competition should be at the 6/8 core area so we could enjoy 6/8core cpus at affordable prices.

Are you for real, your opinion suits you, mines different ,it suits me.
I don't think people should be allowed to buy million pound supercars because it's not fair that i cant have one ,that and have you seen uk roads they are wasted here , what's the point.

You can now get a 6/8 core cpu cheaper than before , that's competition right there.
You are arguing a pointless point in as confused a way as I've ever seen.
They should Not stop competing in those grounds, intel have been selling 12+ core chips upto a few thousand pounds a pop Waaaaaaaay too long.

You sir are probably in the wrong forum ,most here are tech enthusiasts ,moar and faster is always better.
And just because your pc sits doing nowt eternally until you have your weekend round of csgo , don't think you know what others do with theirs ,or need.
And I don't think most pcs in use are gaming.

 

[notb]

This keeping on getting better and better. AMD is going full force with 44 PCIe Lanes even on the lowest 1955 variant of Ryzen 9. This is something INTEL is still milking consumers on upcoming HEDT. 16 and 28 Lanes on their HEDT platform is just pathetic.

Are we learning yet?

Are you?
Intel platform has a much wider choice of processors.
The ones that compete with the shown Ryzen 9 variants also have 44 PCIe lanes.

Ever heard of distributed computing? Those of us who do real work on computers instead of playing games LOVE more cores...I say keep 'em coming! And yes, before you ask, I use ALL of those cores, ALL of them are used 24/7 to crunch data. The more the merrier.

Yes, yes - you're so awesome and pro. I'm doing something that could be called "real work" and a lot of it is single threaded. What about that?
Also: distributed computing is hardly "real work". You're just lending your processing power. Don't build a life philosophy around it.

 

[Raevenlord]

Keep that HEDT news coming Lord Ravenholm!

"We don't go to Ravenholm!"

It's not that obvious, but that is actually what I was thinking about when I chose that username!

You, sir, deserve a cookie!