AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

[EarthDog]

DO IT...

 

[the54thvoid]

DO IT...

Yes master - all ordered:

Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero
AMD Ryzen 1700X
G Skill 3200 Trident Z 16GB
Samsung M2 NVMe 960Pro 512Gb
Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
Lian Li PC-V33 Cube Case (with window)
Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT cooler (AM4 mount)


still awaiting GTX1080ti stock......

Whoopsy!

 

[Norton]

Yes master - all ordered:

Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero
AMD Ryzen 1700X
G Skill 3200 Trident Z 16GB
Samsung M2 NVMe 960Pro 512Gb
Seasonic Prime Titanium 850W
Lian Li PC-V33 Cube Case (with window)
Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT cooler (AM4 mount)


still awaiting GTX1080ti stock......

Whoopsy!

Nice combo!


A nice stability test would be to see how far you can make this number go up between March 22nd and March 30th (link below)

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=user&proj=bwcg&name=826545

 

[phanbuey]

Just bought:

G.skill 16GB(8GBx2) Trident Z DDR4 PC25600 3200MHz

It's on the QVL list for the Asus Crosshair motherboard. Damn hard to find in the UK but it bloody better work. Haven't bought the motherboard yet but it is back in stock at OcUK...

It's D-Day - do i buy AMD Ryzen for my next build?

These are the ones I have - they are awesome.

 

[nem..]

in the next link some buddy post the next
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...and-upcoming-am4-updates.231518/#post-3620871

searching for myself , in the firts, i do guess than intel platform have highter support of ram than ryzen , but its not , ryzen have highter native support for run 2667mhz without OC .

AMD X370

Support for DDR4 3600(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3200(O.C.) / 2933(O.C.) / 2667* / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules

GA-Z270-Gaming K3

Support for DDR4 3866(O.C.) / 3800(O.C.) / 3733(O.C.) / 3666(O.C.) /
3600(O.C.) / 3466(O.C.) / 3400(O.C.) / 3333(O.C.) / 3300(O.C.) /
3200(O.C.) / 3000(O.C.) / 2800(O.C.) / 2666(O.C.) / 2400 / 2133 MHz memory modules

link. http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z270-Gaming-K3-rev-10#sp

link. http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-K7-rev-10#sp

 

[the54thvoid]

Arghh! Memory out of stock. Been refunded...

 

[Lt_JWS]

Ordered a 1700, asrock fatality ab350, 2x8gb g.skill 3200mhz. Hope the MOBO holds up....

 

[r9]

Ordered a 1700, asrock fatality ab350, 2x8gb g.skill 3200mhz. Hope the MOBO holds up....

Another rx 470 would look great.
Btw anybody came across of any CF or SLI benchmarks on Ryzen platform ?

Has anyone managed to use memory above 3200MHz, and does it scale well ?

 

[Lt_JWS]

Another rx 470 would look great.
Btw anybody came across of any CF or SLI benchmarks on Ryzen platform ?

Thinking about it.... they are cheap enough....

 

[Sir B. Fannybottom]

It's a horny old goat.

goat = Greatest Of All Time.



Wasn't my idea, TBH. You can blame another user here on TPU for dat. @Sir B. Fannybottom

I don't remember this

 

[Super XP]

I've asked Wizard to re-due the Ryzen Benchmarks in 1080p and 1440p. Based on this proposed 30% to 35% performance increase after updating Windows 10. Microsoft provided a update, that supposedly increases Ryzen Performance. I am very curious to see results by a Reputable Website, like TechPowerUp.

Here is the Link to the CLAIM:
https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/843864982320267265/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[trparky]

Does anyone have Ryzen benchmarks for Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I've asked Wizard to re-due the Ryzen Benchmarks in 1080p and 1440p. Based on this proposed 30% to 35% performance increase after updating Windows 10. Microsoft provided a update, that supposedly increases Ryzen Performance. I am very curious to see results by a Reputable Website, like TechPowerUp.

Here is the Link to the CLAIM:
https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/843864982320267265/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

That's only one game though and it wasn't one of the titles that was really hurt by Ryzen. Also, UT3 is a really old game.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I've asked Wizard to re-due the Ryzen Benchmarks in 1080p and 1440p. Based on this proposed 30% to 35% performance increase after updating Windows 10. Microsoft provided a update, that supposedly increases Ryzen Performance. I am very curious to see results by a Reputable Website, like TechPowerUp.

Here is the Link to the CLAIM:
https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/843864982320267265/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

might be a signed up insider ive noted game boost mode on off in my menu, who knows though?

 

[GoldenX]

Valve patched Dota 2 for Ryzen.

 

[Super XP]

Valve patched Dota 2 for Ryzen.

I was just wondering if we can have a Re Benchmark just to see if MS's update actually did some good for Ryzen.

 

[trparky]

No offense but I think that anyone who built a Ryzen rig wasted their money. A five year old Core i5 3570k Ivy Bridge chip not only kicked Ryzen's ass but kicked all the way down town.

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 vs. a 5-year-old gaming PC, or why you should never preorder | PCWorld

PCWorld

While I was pleasantly surprised by the ultimate AMD machine’s performance, the more mainstream Ryzen 7 1700 build left a bitter taste in my mouth. I wasn’t expecting it to blow Intel’s 3570K out of the water, but I was hoping for some sort of performance pick-me-up, or at least parity. Instead, Intel’s quad-core, 5-year-old chip smoked Ryzen in two out of the three games tested—and I mean smoked—and the CPUs traded blows in the third.

Wow.​

I was really rooting for AMD here but once again we had our hopes dashed against the rocks. To have a five year old Intel chip thoroughly kick Ryzen's ass is pretty damn bad. You had your chance AMD and like always, you blew it.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

No offense but I think that anyone who built a Ryzen rig wasted their money. A five year old Core i5 3570k Ivy Bridge chip not only kicked Ryzen's ass but kicked all the way down town.

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 vs. a 5-year-old gaming PC, or why you should never preorder | PCWorld

PCWorld

While I was pleasantly surprised by the ultimate AMD machine’s performance, the more mainstream Ryzen 7 1700 build left a bitter taste in my mouth. I wasn’t expecting it to blow Intel’s 3570K out of the water, but I was hoping for some sort of performance pick-me-up, or at least parity. Instead, Intel’s quad-core, 5-year-old chip smoked Ryzen in two out of the three games tested—and I mean smoked—and the CPUs traded blows in the third.

Wow.​

I was really rooting for AMD here but once again we had our hopes dashed against the rocks. To have a five year old Intel chip thoroughly kick Ryzen's ass is pretty damn bad. You had your chance AMD and like always, you blew it.

I believe I'd take wizards multiple game and app based opinion over that 3 game trollfest.

 

[OneCool]

No offense but I think that anyone who built a Ryzen rig wasted their money. A five year old Core i5 3570k Ivy Bridge chip not only kicked Ryzen's ass but kicked all the way down town.

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 vs. a 5-year-old gaming PC, or why you should never preorder | PCWorld

PCWorld

While I was pleasantly surprised by the ultimate AMD machine’s performance, the more mainstream Ryzen 7 1700 build left a bitter taste in my mouth. I wasn’t expecting it to blow Intel’s 3570K out of the water, but I was hoping for some sort of performance pick-me-up, or at least parity. Instead, Intel’s quad-core, 5-year-old chip smoked Ryzen in two out of the three games tested—and I mean smoked—and the CPUs traded blows in the third.

Wow.​

I was really rooting for AMD here but once again we had our hopes dashed against the rocks. To have a five year old Intel chip thoroughly kick Ryzen's ass is pretty damn bad. You had your chance AMD and like always, you blew it.

* Looks around for the spray bottle*

 

[trparky]

The only thing that I can possibly think of is that the R7 series is being limited in clock speed by the number of cores on the package. The Intel Core i7 7700 (quad-core) has a base clock speed of 3.6 GHz whereas the R7 has 8 cores and it's base clock is only 3 GHz with not much room to overclock at all. My only explanation is that they seem to be bumping up against a heat related issue with all those cores on-board.

Now what does this mean for the Ryzen R5 that will be coming out soon? I don't know. What we do know is that the R5 1600X is only a six core CPU as versus the R7 series which is an 8 core chip and the R5 1600X is slated to come with a base clock of 3.6 GHz (with a boost clock of 4 GHz) which matches the base clock of the Intel Core i7 7700.

Will the extra 600 MHz on the base clock be able to close the gap between Ryzen and Intel? I don't know.

This looks interesting...
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3887vs3917
The Intel Core i7 7700 clocked at 3.6 GHz appears to be about 4% faster than the Ryzen R7 1700 clocked at 3 GHz.

Whereas the Intel Core i7 7700k clocked at 4.2 GHz is almost 19% faster than the Ryzen R7 1700 clocked at 3 GHz.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3647vs3917

So here we start seeing the performance gap closing as the two chips start getting closer in clock speed, obviously.

So again I pose the question... Will the R5 1600X (six core) which is slated to be clocked at 3.6 GHz be able to close the performance gap between AMD and Intel? I'm thinking... yes. I figure that the R7's overall performance is being hurt by the number of cores on-board due to heat issues thus the inability to clock higher.

 

[toilet pepper]

The only thing that I can possibly think of is that the R7 series is being limited in clock speed by the number of cores on the package. The Intel Core i7 7700 (quad-core) has a base clock speed of 3.6 GHz whereas the R7 has 8 cores and it's base clock in only 3 GHz with not much room to overclock at all. My only explanation is that they seem to be bumping up against a heat related issue with all those cores on-board.

Now what does this mean for the Ryzen R5 that will be coming out soon? I don't know. What we do know is that the R5 1600X is only a six core CPU as versus the R7 series which is an 8 core chip and the R5 1600X is slated to come with a base clock of 3.6 GHz (with a boost clock of 4 GHz) which matches the base clock of the Intel Core i7 7700.

Will the extra 600 MHz on the base clock be able to close the gap between Ryzen and Intel? I don't know.

This looks interesting...
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3887vs3917
The Intel Core i7 7700 clocked at 3.6 GHz appears to be about 4% faster than the Ryzen R7 1700 clocked at 3 GHz.

Whereas the Intel Core i7 7700k clocked at 4.2 GHz is almost 19% faster than the Ryzen R7 1700 clocked at 3 GHz.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1700/3647vs3917

So here we start seeing the performance gap closing as the two chips start getting closer in clock speed, obviously.

So again I pose the question... Will the R5 1600X (six core) which is slated to be clocked at 3.6 GHz be able to close the performance gap between AMD and Intel? I'm thinking... yes. I figure that the R7's overall performance is being hurt by the number of cores on-board due to heat issues thus the inability to clock higher.

Nope. AFAIK Ryzen can't clock high due to process limitation.

The high clock-speed of kaby lake is due to several generations of process refinement and milking

 

[HTC]

I was just wondering if we can have a Re Benchmark just to see if MS's update actually did some good for Ryzen.

Look @ this post: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/page-44#post-38806406

 

[phanbuey]

Just get around it and use Process Lasso...

The difference between farcry 4 - standing in town looking out @ max details, i get about 62 FPS.... if I prefer only physical cores, give it realtime priority (high works too) and keep it to one CCX i get 83 FPS in the exact same spot.

there are really no scheduler issues, and process lasso makes a HUGE difference when CPU bound (even on my alienware 6700HQ it boosted frames massively by locking threads to physical cores and boosting game priority to high / realtime).

Im pretty sure windows is equally inefficient with AMD and Intel (individual game engines may be a different story) just because i got a similar boost tooling around with thread priorities and affinity on my intel laptop.

 

[qubit]

Looks like all those early memory glitches might soon be a thing of the past.

Looks like memory speed support is indeed increasing on the new AMD Ryzen platform and MSI is poised to be one of the first out the gate to do so. This isn't immediately available so don't go running for the support site just yet, but it will be coming in the very near future through an EFI update. MSI posted on their site regarding the A-XMP update as well as slew of new motherboards that will hopefully be hitting the market just in time for the launch of Ryzen 5 in April. Just a quick aside, in the current MSI motherboard's EFI A-XMP already exists to a degree, but this will be a much more mature version that should expand compatibility.

http://wccftech.com/msi-enabling-axmp-ryzen-motherboards/

 

[Lt_JWS]

Who else hates waiting for new hardware to showup?!

Corsair H60 works great FYI!

Mobo came with 1.3bios, wouldn't post with 2 sticks of ram. Flashed to beta 1.44 dual works but don't try to OC in bios :|