AMD Ryzen Discussion Thread.

[_JP_]

JOV1 and JOV2 headers on MSI motherboards if shorted activate #YOLO mode. (get rid of voltage limits for RAM and CPU, respectively)

@HTC You can also snapshot your DIMM's details from UEFI, I believe (usually F12). Probably not the IC information, but SPDs and JDEC detail should be shown.

 

[TheLostSwede]

First time using a NVME SSD. any thing i need to know before installing windows 10.
Waiting for the case to arrive to start the build.

Actually yes, you need to disable CSM to boot from an NVMe drive on Asus motherboards. Sorry for the bad pictured, it's borrowed from the Asus forums.

 

[Recca29]

Actually yes, you need to disable CSM to boot from an NVMe drive on Asus motherboards. Sorry for the bad pictured, it's borrowed from the Asus forums.

thanks for that. finally got all the parts. got the case this morning.
will start tomorrow with the build.

 

[Cvrk]

#YOLO mode.

I'm still w8 for my parts. The benefits of leaving in Romania. Nothing is cheap, everything comes late...if ever comes at all

 

[EarthDog]

Actually yes, you need to disable CSM to boot from an NVMe drive on Asus motherboards. Sorry for the bad pictured, it's borrowed from the Asus forums.

That isnt disabled by default? Or only on a specific platform? I dont recall doing that.

 

[HTC]

@HTC You can also snapshot your DIMM's details from UEFI, I believe (usually F12). Probably not the IC information, but SPDs and JDEC detail should be shown.

This, right?

 

[TheLostSwede]

That isnt disabled by default? Or only on a specific platform? I dont recall doing that.

It wasn't for me and my NVMe drive would not work without disabling it. Maybe it's different for different drives? It should be Auto by default, but this didn't work for me.

 

[the54thvoid]

That isnt disabled by default? Or only on a specific platform? I dont recall doing that.

It wasn't for me and my NVMe drive would not work without disabling it. Maybe it's different for different drives? It should be Auto by default, but this didn't work for me.

I only have one drive, a Samsung 960 pro, NVMe and it auto booted windows without any changes in bios. Asus CH6.

 

[EarthDog]

Ive had a 950 pro, rd400, and hellfire...didnt need to change a thing on any asus, msi, or giga boards (not sure i had asrock).

Id give it a go without changing that option. If it doesnt work, flip it.

 

[_JP_]

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This, right?

Right.
Strange, my old FM2A75 Pro4 allowed to show more than that
Yours might hidden in the "DRAM timing configiration".

 

[HTC]

Right.
Strange, my old FM2A75 Pro4 allowed to show more than that
Yours might hidden in the "DRAM timing configiration".

Dunno: will check next boot and take some screenshots.

 

[R-T-B]

Ive had a 950 pro, rd400, and hellfire...didnt need to change a thing on any asus, msi, or giga boards (not sure i had asrock).

Id give it a go without changing that option. If it doesnt work, flip it.

950 Pro's have all kinds of legacy support onboard (as well as most other SSDs). 960 series not so much. It's documented online somewhere.

950 will even boot on X58 boards as an example, with an adapter of course.

 

[HTC]

Right.
Strange, my old FM2A75 Pro4 allowed to show more than that
Yours might hidden in the "DRAM timing configiration".

Haven't changed a thing: these are the XMP profile settings.

What i have to do is figure out how to undervolt and underclock the CPU so that i can have like 400 to 500 less base MHz: that should be sufficient. Later on, if need be, i can always revert it to stock clocks for "more performance".

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I'm not going any higher until I put heatsinks on the ram and I get my AM4 bracket...
I'm still only hitting 63.1w...I know I can reduce the volts a little more and I don't think as of yet I'm getting the best out of that memory...I'm @1.39v and I've had them as high as 1.41 without any issue....I think I'll wait to get off of stock cooler and nothing else before I really push it.

 

[Recca29]

i have setup the system with a temporary psu and installed windows and drivers. i am now getting am issue.
the system doesn't shut down through windows, it just restarts every time i try to shut down.
anyone have any idea why it's happening.

 

[Cvrk]

Long day for me. Exhausted and sad. I need help. Advice.
the bequite AM4 mouting kit fir garbage. I almost broke my motherboard, trying to tighten the screws on the back plate. It's made in such way that it's a double screw. Theoretically you need to hold the top and screw in the bottom . Impossible. I will show you pictures, that the cooler was so incredible lose it almost did not touch (make contact) with the thermal paste. There are builds on youtube using the bequite cooling with the am4 kit... maybe those guys are pro, maybe they know something i don't.
I am also blaming it on the motherboard. I think the holes are to big. I will show you, don't know it those holes are standard and exist on every AM4 motherboard.
At this point, i have to try to get my money back on the Dark Rock Pro 3,and go for a Noctua. More ugly, more expensive. I will take ugly, even tho expensive is a problem.

For those of you here, that have Noctua coolers : please help me.
1. Tell me that they can be mounted easily . Did you struggle , or what ? Is it anything like this ?

2. What cooler to get ? The big one,or the small one ? For a 200-300 Mhz
https://www.emag.ro/cooler-procesor...ompatibil-amd-am4-cpntu12sseam4/pd/D7X7Z7BBM/

https://www.emag.ro/cooler-procesor-noctua-nh-d15-compatibil-intel-amd-cpntd15/pd/D9L81BBBM/

I used some tape to reduce the looseness, it had a jiggle. The entire cooler moved around with the back plate.It was not firm in place. Never seen anything like this. In the vertical position of the motherboard, it kinda felt into place, cuz it's very heavy. But it almost did not make any contact with the cpu. The screws in the back where never 100% tight.

Wish i had an idea how to use this cooler with its mounting kit.... it's a pain just to think that i can't finish my build, i need to get a more expensive and ugly noctua

I have the exact same cooler as him

How did he managed to set it up ?
Please help

 

[Norton]

Sorry to hear about your troubles @Cvrk

In response to your Noctua question.... less than 60 seconds to install the mounting kit and about the same to install the cooler

 

[Recca29]

Dude, did you crack the board at 2 places?

 

[Norton]

@Cvrk that is one lousy way to install a cooler

Video is in german but you can see the process:

 

[Dbiggs9]

Are there any Motherboards AM4 that i could use my AM3 Water cooler on?

 

[Rehmanpa]

Are there any Motherboards AM4 that i could use my AM3 Water cooler on?

Can't you just change the mounting bracket and use any of them?

 

[Rehmanpa]

Does the threadripper TR4 socket have the same AM4 mounting issues or did they chsnge anything with it?

 

[infrared]

Are there any Motherboards AM4 that i could use my AM3 Water cooler on?

The Asus Crosshair VI Hero has holes drilled for both AM3 & AM4 coolers, there's probably a few others also. Or just buy the AM4 bracket and use whatever motherboard you want

@Rehmanpa TR4 is another bracket again, I doubt most coolers that would do an AM4 CPU would even cover the whole heatspreader of a Threadripper.

 

[HTC]

Long day for me. Exhausted and sad. I need help. Advice.
the bequite AM4 mouting kit fir garbage. I almost broke my motherboard, trying to tighten the screws on the back plate. It's made in such way that it's a double screw. Theoretically you need to hold the top and screw in the bottom . Impossible. I will show you pictures, that the cooler was so incredible lose it almost did not touch (make contact) with the thermal paste. There are builds on youtube using the bequite cooling with the am4 kit... maybe those guys are pro, maybe they know something i don't.
I am also blaming it on the motherboard. I think the holes are to big. I will show you, don't know it those holes are standard and exist on every AM4 motherboard.
At this point, i have to try to get my money back on the Dark Rock Pro 3,and go for a Noctua. More ugly, more expensive. I will take ugly, even tho expensive is a problem.

For those of you here, that have Noctua coolers : please help me.
1. Tell me that they can be mounted easily . Did you struggle , or what ? Is it anything like this ?

2. What cooler to get ? The big one,or the small one ? For a 200-300 Mhz
https://www.emag.ro/cooler-procesor...ompatibil-amd-am4-cpntu12sseam4/pd/D7X7Z7BBM/

https://www.emag.ro/cooler-procesor-noctua-nh-d15-compatibil-intel-amd-cpntd15/pd/D9L81BBBM/

I used some tape to reduce the looseness, it had a jiggle. The entire cooler moved around with the back plate.It was not firm in place. Never seen anything like this. In the vertical position of the motherboard, it kinda felt into place, cuz it's very heavy. But it almost did not make any contact with the cpu. The screws in the back where never 100% tight.

Wish i had an idea how to use this cooler with its mounting kit.... it's a pain just to think that i can't finish my build, i need to get a more expensive and ugly noctua

I have the exact same cooler as him

How did he managed to set it up ?
Please help

Dude: do not force! You risk breaking something if you attempt to force!

When putting the cooler in place, if you feel it has some slack then you did it wrong so i suggest you try and re-do it from scratch.

The following applies only to Noctua coolers:

A question: is your cooler the AM4 version? Perhaps it's not AM4 version, in which case you'll need the AM4 mounting kit adapter. I had to get this myself because my cooler is very old and it's even discontinued: instructions on how to do this here. You will not need this if your cooler is the AM4 version because, if so, it already has the proper parts for the assembly..

According to your 1st pic, there are 4 black spacers that should not be there: Noctua's spacers are grey, as seen in your youtube video. Furthermore, there are screws there? Huh? You should either see the holes for the screws or the heads of the screws but not what's shown in your 1st pic.

EDIT

In my case, i had to remove the FM2 adapter from the cooler in order to attach the AM4 adapter to it so that i could then mount it on the board.

 

[Norton]

According to your 1st pic, there are 4 black spacers that should not be there: Noctua's spacers are grey, as seen in your youtube video. Furthermore, there are screws there? Huh? You should either see the holes for the screws or the heads of the screws but not what's shown in your 1st pic.

He was installing a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 3 not a Noctua...