AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3980X is a 48-core Monster for When 64 Cores Are Too Many, 32 Too Few

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@Crackong
That is blasfemy and utter sacrilege.

 

[Crackong]

@Crackong
That is blasfemy and utter sacrilege.

But...but it ran Crysis...right?

 

[MDDB]

I don't know why you went and put it in this way.
From a technical point of view you could be right.

From a more personal view, It's their call and cost to build, not anyone else's and if they do I'm sure they'd have reason(s) for it.

In short - Your singular view of what's needed doesn't apply to everyone or even anyone else, that's up to the user to decide for themselves in each instance as you have for yourself.

What Candle_86 wrote were mantras of the industry in the 80's (640 KB of RAM being more than enough for anyone) and 90's (4 cores beeing unnecessary) that are obviously wrong by today's standards. He was being ironic, i don't think you got his point.

 

[EarthDog]

Of course not. This CPU is aimed at the professional or niche enthusiast.

I know. My point is made with that in mind and it is a ton even for those users. So few can utilize (not use) them, even in that space...but time is money!

It is such blurred lines between desktop, HEDT, and server.

Someone with a 48 thread cpu may have it last longer than someone with 8 or 16 cores.

of course..., but if a pro is using 8 or 16 cores and needs 32, he doesnt have the right cpu in hand in the first place. It also depends on the work being done. If a user isnt utilizing (not using) all c/t... what's the point? There comes a time when you need to figure out lifecycles and worth. Would I be more productive with a 24c unit for 3 years and buy again, or buy 32c for 4.5 years and buy again? Numbers will vary if course.

On the consumer/desktop side, People are being funneled into higher core counts for little reason. Desktop and HEDT are blurred lines...

 

[Bones]

What Candle_86 wrote were mantras of the industry in the 80's (640 KB of RAM being more than enough for anyone) and 90's (4 cores beeing unnecessary) that are obviously wrong by today's standards. He was being ironic, i don't think you got his point.

I see that now, thanks for rattling the old noggin.
No offense was intended and I apologize if any was taken.

However it's still relevant that it's up to the user what they need, an obvious yet true point of it all.

 

[Tomorrow]

I'd rather see them try solving the 3950X supply issues. It's been 1.5 months. As of today it's not even listed by official AMD partners in some countries.
If they can't make them, why not launch a slower 16-core 3920X out of die bins that actually exist...?

What issues? Right now where i live i can walk in to the stores and get 30+ and order 40 more online. All for the cool sum of 56k € (iMac Pro top pricing):

Protsessorid (CPU) - Arvutitark

Osta arvuti targalt, Arvutitargalt!

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Or go with 3900X that has 23+ in stores and 50+ orderable: https://arvutitark.ee/est/tootekata...otsessorid-CPU-Socket-AM4-protsessorid/448572

They have 3x 3960X and 25x 3970X orderable too. Not too bad. Seems whatever issues AMD had in September-November they have largely solved it and supply is very good. Atleast on smaller markets like Estonia. It's possible that on bigger markets like USA there is still more demand than supply.

 

[TheGuruStud]

What issues? Right now where i live i can walk in to the stores and get 30+ and order 40 more online. All for the cool sum of 56k € (iMac Pro top pricing):

Protsessorid (CPU) - Arvutitark

Osta arvuti targalt, Arvutitargalt!

arvutitark.ee

Or go with 3900X that has 23+ in stores and 50+ orderable: https://arvutitark.ee/est/tootekata...otsessorid-CPU-Socket-AM4-protsessorid/448572

They have 3x 3960X and 25x 3970X orderable too. Not too bad. Seems whatever issues AMD had in September-November they have largely solved it and supply is very good. Atleast on smaller markets like Estonia. It's possible that on bigger markets like USA there is still more demand than supply.

Sold out in the US, but you can still get it for 100 dollar premium. If you want it that badly, then it's not big deal. It's not like there's anyone else offering a competitive product

 

[ValenOne]

Can the AMD 3980x play crysis?

With Swiftshader 3.0 JIT software Direct3D9c render. Swiftshader 3.0 doesn't support AVX.

 

[Tomorrow]

With Swiftshader 3.0 JIT software Direct3D9c render. Swiftshader 3.0 doesn't support AVX.

Crysis is a DX10 Win32 game. Current CPU's should have no problem playing it under Windows 10. Crysis is a very single threaded game that favors Intel but TR should be able to brute force it.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

I think AMD needs to dust off and nuke Intel from orbit, its the only way to be sure...

I love the reference to the movie Aliens

 

[Super XP]

Before we all board the train
- New socket and much worse value than previous gens (comparatively)
- How many workloads are still 'unoptimized'?
- Niche segment, esp. when AMD can't convince major companies to switch on the server side
- Lost out at After-effects, compression/decom and any scenario that requires CORE performance
- the 3960/70X consume more than the 3175 during handbrake

AMD is most likely going to gain double digit market share in the server side. That might be 10%, that might be 15%, but Intel does have a very strong hold in this segment. My only concern, will AMD have enough chips to meet server demand. I hope so, because this is the once in a life time opportunity lol
Despite AMD gaining market share in the desktop, that is puny compared to the server side.

Nobody cares for these overpriced CPUs. Former "discount brand" AMD is about to set record high price points for HEDT, probably up to $4000. Let that sink in. I won't be surprised if they start charging up to $1000 for mainstream by next year.

I don't see AMD price hiking HEDT CPU's, they aren't Intel were all there HEDT processors are well overpriced, not to mention very expensive motherboards to go with them. There will obviously be a premium for Niche HEDT market but I can't see AMD blowing a lead just for the sake of overpricing.

 

[InVasMani]

Sold out in the US, but you can still get it for 100 dollar premium. If you want it that badly, then it's not big deal. It's not like there's anyone else offering a competitive product

So true and that's still far less price gouging than Intel was offering prior to Ryzen on it's heavily multi-core CPU's.

 

[Manoa]

Can the AMD 3980x play crysis?

you know it's funy, but the true is that the answer is no :x I explain
7nm grate right ? but here is something that need to consider:
if you look 14nm you get 1000mm chips ? but 7nm limit is approximatly 400mm
the good news for CPU is that the die don't have to be big so it fits 400mm
with video cards the die have to be big :x that is whay RX 5700 is the biggest they can do :x
sure it only 250mm but if compare to 14nm, making video card chips on 7nm is one step forward and 2 steps back (net loss)
you make less than twice smaller conduit size and you also make less than 2x smaller chip :x so you have chip size limit that don't let you make high performance video card cores
people expected high performance video card chips from 7nm but it looks like this is not going to happen :x

 

[ValenOne]

Crysis is a DX10 Win32 game. Current CPU's should have no problem playing it under Windows 10. Crysis is a very single threaded game that favors Intel but TR should be able to brute force it.

Crysis runs on DX9 and DX10.

Crysis on Swiftshader Direct3D9 software render with Ryzen 7 2700

Crysis completely rendered by CPU

CPU vs. GPU 3D gaming.

www.tweaktown.com

I run Crysis on Swiftshader Direct3D9 software render since Intel Core 2 era.

You are not going to win this debate.

Try again.

 

[Tomorrow]

You are not going to win this debate.

Try again.

What debate?

I simply misunderstood you. I was talking about playing normally with CPU+GPU. Not rendering the whole thing only on a CPU.
Besides curiosity i see no reason why i would bother to play a subpar experience.

 

[lexluthermiester]

What debate?

That's what I was thinking...

 

[Legacy-ZA]

I love the reference to the movie Aliens

I love people that catch these references.

 

[terroralpha]

What issues? Right now where i live i can walk in to the stores and get 30+ and order 40 more online. All for the cool sum of 56k € (iMac Pro top pricing):

Protsessorid (CPU) - Arvutitark

Osta arvuti targalt, Arvutitargalt!

arvutitark.ee

Or go with 3900X that has 23+ in stores and 50+ orderable: https://arvutitark.ee/est/tootekata...otsessorid-CPU-Socket-AM4-protsessorid/448572

They have 3x 3960X and 25x 3970X orderable too. Not too bad. Seems whatever issues AMD had in September-November they have largely solved it and supply is very good. Atleast on smaller markets like Estonia. It's possible that on bigger markets like USA there is still more demand than supply.

looks like some website just resupplied. it wasn't available anywhere until like 2 days ago. in the US, it's sold out everywhere right now. you can't buy it all unless you want to shell out an extra $150 mark up and buy from a scalper. i suppose this is a direct result of much more people in the US having disposable income.

 

[Tomorrow]

looks like some website just resupplied. it wasn't available anywhere until like 2 days ago. in the US, it's sold out everywhere right now. you can't buy it all unless you want to shell out an extra $150 mark up and buy from a scalper. i suppose this is a direct result of much more people in the US having disposable income.

I've heard that if you're in the US and live near MicroCenter that they often have real stock. Meaning they don't sell all their stock online. Possibly they reserve some for stores.

 

[terroralpha]

I've heard that if you're in the US and live near MicroCenter that they often have real stock. Meaning they don't sell all their stock online. Possibly they reserve some for stores.

I live near FIVE microcenters. Each one gets random stock of 2 to 5 units per week. No one knows when they get there. they get deliveries every day but have no way of knowing what’s on the trucks coming in. the few units they get sell out within minutes of the store opening.

i couldn't get any 3950s from microcenter even though i have so many near me. i bought two from amazon on monday. only one shipped, the other is back ordered. amazon removed the 3950 listing like 5 minutes after it went up.

EDIT: also, you can't reserve high demand items for store pickup. during the mining craze you couldn't reserve GPUs. right now you can't reserve any Ryzen 9 CPUs or threadrippers. it's first come first serve.

 

[Tomorrow]

I live near FIVE microcenters. Each one gets random stock of 2 to 5 units per week. No one knows when they get there. they get deliveries every day but have no way of knowing what’s on the trucks coming in. the few units they get sell out within minutes of the store opening.

i couldn't get any 3950s from microcenter even though i have so many near me. i bought two from amazon on monday. only one shipped, the other is back ordered. amazon removed the 3950 listing like 5 minutes after it went up.

EDIT: also, you can't reserve high demand items for store pickup. during the mining craze you couldn't reserve GPUs. right now you can't reserve any Ryzen 9 CPUs or threadrippers. it's first come first serve.

Wow ok. That's some bad luck you have there with the availability.

 

[ValenOne]

What debate?

I simply misunderstood you. I was talking about playing normally with CPU+GPU. Not rendering the whole thing only on a CPU.
Besides curiosity i see no reason why i would bother to play a subpar experience.

I'm answering "Can the AMD 3980x play crysis?" question.