AMD Ryzen Threadripper MCM De-lidded and De-packaged

[Imsochobo]

Heh. That's one way to look at it. Looking online at stock numbers, it doesn't really amount to that large of a number of dies anyway, so while I might seem to be critical, in the grand scheme of things, it is not really that big of a deal if they are 100% functional, anyway. Locally the 1900X is $789.99, so whatever the cost is to AMD, I am sure it's fine. Like that's turning 4 "defective" dies into $200 each. I know what they should really cost, and that's not just paying money for broken chips, that's making bank!!

I mean, then the 1920X is just over $1100 at normal prices, making that single fully-functional chip worth $500, and then rightly so the 1950X is $1400, sealing the deal. A 1300X is what, $160? Two of those chips, in a single socket, for an added $370 bucks? You're paying for those "dead dies" anyway. Also note that a 1300X, while clocked a bit lower, is only a 65W chip, but the 1900X is a 180W one...

Also worth noting on TDP.
Run AVX on an intel 140W, does it use 140W? no. 165W : yes
Run any workload on an TR, does it use 180W? almost impossible.
High clock ECC memory with all dimms filled with 64 pci-e lanes in use = 180 Watts.

TDP is just more confusing the more you look at it for each generation.
Modern cpu's ain't just a cpu but more a system on a chip.

 

[cadaveca]

Also worth noting on TDP.
Run AVX on an intel 140W, does it use 140W? no. 165W : yes.

That's not quite accurate. Intel CPUs will use Turbo clocks that increase power consumption over TDP, provided conditions are correct.

I can't comment on TR, because no one has done CPU-only power draw that I have seen, and AMD declined sampling to us. I'm not sure why what Intel does has any bearing on what AMD does, anyway... calling one good in the face of another's bad is rather conniving and obviously so, I hope you realize.