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AMD Ryzen X3D Processors are Popular with TPU Readers, 23% Market Share: Poll Results

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I use to be like you now I just like stock lol guess I am getting old lol.
You didn’t hear it from me but..

Stock isn’t so bad.. much quieter that’s for sure :D
 
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I bet they will be even more popular once their BIOS comes out of Alpha.
 
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I use to be like you now I just like stock lol guess I am getting old lol.
Or maybe like me, you also realised that you can't gain +50% with the flick of a switch like you could 20-30 years ago. :ohwell:

Anything less isn't worth the hassle, imo.
 
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Or maybe like me, you also realised that you can't gain +50% with the flick of a switch like you could 20-30 years ago. :ohwell:

Anything less isn't worth the hassle, imo.
Stock is pretty weak though. 50% isn’t going to happen.. not like 20+ years ago :D

Even a 5900X running in its stock boost range with boosted power limits and some curve is stronger than stock.
 
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Stock is pretty weak though. 50% isn’t going to happen.. not like 20+ years ago :D

Even a 5900X running in its stock boost range with boosted power limits and some curve is stronger than stock.

With ryzen 5000 I get way more out of tweaking ram for games than I do trying to set a arbitrary frequency also power goes through the roof even if temps are fine so not worth the hassle.

My last platform that was worth tinkering with was a i9 9900k on Z390 but even it lost badly to a stock 5800X with a Bdie tune.
 
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Recently swapped out my 7950X for a 7800X3d and loving it.
Games are silky smooth, system feels more snappy than before for some reason (maybe single CCD related there)

The only tasks i really do that are compute heavy are transcoding blue rays into mp4 files, which i use the GPU for anyway.
 
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Recently swapped out my 7950X for a 7800X3d and loving it.
Games are silky smooth, system feels more snappy than before for some reason (maybe single CCD related there)

The only tasks i really do that are compute heavy are transcoding blue rays into mp4 files, which i use the GPU for anyway.
I'm planning on shoving my 7950X into a cheap server rig once I upgrade.
 

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With ryzen 5000 I get way more out of tweaking ram for games than I do trying to set a arbitrary frequency
That’s how my clocked 5900X can hang with stock 5950X’s in Cinebench :D
 
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They are the best CPU's for the money, esp if your looking to build a cheap gaming rig. You don't need fast ram, 3200Mhz is more then enough. You don't need a big cooler, the max TDP is just 125W. You don't need a overblown big PSU - a good video card sets you at approx 350 to 450W and just call it a day.

It's also a perfect upgrade path on AM4 if your still on 2700X or below, roughly 50% faster.

The interesting thing about the X3D - they where originally designed as Epyc with large leaps of extra cache that could benefit from it. The engineering team had to figure something out to re-use the less usable parts and that is kind of how the X3D was born.

Downsides are: You can't overclock it. Overvolting to above 1.35V instant death for it's CPU cache. The cache is tied to the voltage rail of the CPU. The IPC for applications that cannot use the extra cache is a bit lower compared to a 5800X for example due to lower clocks.
 
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To be honest the 5800X3D does feel slower than the 5900X in everything else but Gaming. I also remember people lamenting about no V cache on the high core count parts. Well now I have a 7900X3D and regardless of anything it feels faster than the 5800X3D even in Gaming. 5.7 GHz is not slow speed and 5.1 is just fine. I still don't even have super fast RAM yet.

They are the best CPU's for the money, esp if your looking to build a cheap gaming rig. You don't need fast ram, 3200Mhz is more then enough. You don't need a big cooler, the max TDP is just 125W. You don't need a overblown big PSU - a good video card sets you at approx 350 to 450W and just call it a day.

It's also a perfect upgrade path on AM4 if your still on 2700X or below, roughly 50% faster.

The interesting thing about the X3D - they where originally designed as Epyc with large leaps of extra cache that could benefit from it. The engineering team had to figure something out to re-use the less usable parts and that is kind of how the X3D was born.

Downsides are: You can't overclock it. Overvolting to above 1.35V instant death for it's CPU cache. The cache is tied to the voltage rail of the CPU. The IPC for applications that cannot use the extra cache is a bit lower compared to a 5800X for example due to lower clocks.
One of the best things about X3D chips is how little power they consume to give you that performance. Once you go AM5 you don't worry about OC as the chip is engineered to do just that.
 
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I don't see why they are "surprisingly" popular, they have many qualities: improved gaming performance, improved monothreaded performance for cache heavy applications, good efficiency and decent price, they must be a good choice for many people.

I think the x3d adaption has been hampered by the lack of AM4 multi-CCD x3d options. I would have loved to build around a 5950x3d if it existed, for my mixed gaming and development machine. But I couldn't take the downgrade to 8 cores. So the non-X3d 5950x it is.
 
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One small question:

...why does the headline say 25% when the poll says 7,350/31,862, which is 23.06%? I'm a little confused.
 
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Recently swapped out my 7950X for a 7800X3d and loving it.
Games are silky smooth, system feels more snappy than before for some reason (maybe single CCD related there)

The only tasks i really do that are compute heavy are transcoding blue rays into mp4 files, which i use the GPU for anyway.
I really hope their next 7950X3D (8950X3D) gives the best of both worlds. Best gaming performance and best in productivity; however, I might be asking for a little too much.
 
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With my 7800X3D I can run 3 simultaneous AV1 encodes (present 0 CF 0) while playing all my normal games and doing work. My 5800X would have been a stuttery mess but somehow the 7800X3D manages to keep it together.

Multi-threaded performance may not be the best but X3D CPUs just make for a responsive system. It's only consuming 60w the whole time as well, going to need to crank up my GPU for the winter because the CPU is not nearly enough to heat it up, even running encodes 24/7.
 
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I have a 7800x3d

very powerful in games and consumes far less Watts than the high-end Intels under load

Doesn’t heat like crazy too, easy to cool

to sum up: For gaming it has everything: price, power, stability (make sure you have the latest bioses) and efficiency
 
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They are the best CPU's for the money, esp if your looking to build a cheap gaming rig. You don't need fast ram, 3200Mhz is more then enough. You don't need a big cooler, the max TDP is just 125W. You don't need a overblown big PSU - a good video card sets you at approx 350 to 450W and just call it a day.

It's also a perfect upgrade path on AM4 if your still on 2700X or below, roughly 50% faster.

The interesting thing about the X3D - they where originally designed as Epyc with large leaps of extra cache that could benefit from it. The engineering team had to figure something out to re-use the less usable parts and that is kind of how the X3D was born.

Downsides are: You can't overclock it. Overvolting to above 1.35V instant death for it's CPU cache. The cache is tied to the voltage rail of the CPU. The IPC for applications that cannot use the extra cache is a bit lower compared to a 5800X for example due to lower clocks.

You and I have very different definitions of cheap. A [5,7]800X3D costs (on Newegg US at time of post) not all that much less than I generally spend on an entire platform.
 
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Stock is pretty weak though. 50% isn’t going to happen.. not like 20+ years ago :D

Even a 5900X running in its stock boost range with boosted power limits and some curve is stronger than stock.
I don't know. I wouldn't call my 7800X3D with a 4800 MHz all-core boost limit "weak". ;)

Just because you can do a little bit better with some tweaking, it doesn't mean that stock is garbage.
 

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Now that CS2 is out I'm expecting the 5800X3D/7800X3D to become a popular choice with competitive gamers as well:

Won't catch me being the biggest fan of CS2 (certain things in the game, even smokes, regularly still tanks any setup down to double digits), but my 5800X3D has been making a strong showing, and also making some 7000X3D owners I know feel a bit ripped off for the amount of money they dropped on their setups :D those upper midrange AM5 board prices are outright insane.
 
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Won't catch me being the biggest fan of CS2 (certain things in the game, even smokes, regularly still tanks any setup down to double digits), but my 5800X3D has been making a strong showing, and also making some 7000X3D owners I know feel a bit ripped off for the amount of money they dropped on their setups :D those upper midrange AM5 board prices are outright insane.
Bought the 5800X3D about a week before the game came out (had the beta for a long time tho), and when the benchmarks arrived I was just blown away :D Also, have been using the AMD Prism cooler with a custom fan curve and the guy won't even go over 80°C on full load, about 10°C hotter than my old OC'd 5600X which is just amazing! :toast:
 
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I built my new rig just before the 7 series X3D chips were available but I think I'll be sticking with the more traditional chip (7700X). It more than keeps up with my 1440p gaming needs as well as anything else I can throw at it.

I don't mind saying that I do occasionally cast a jealous eye at the X3D owners mind you! I was very impressed with my 18k Cinebench score until my manager cooly informed me his 7950X3D got 34k, oof.
 
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