AMD Screws Gamers: Sponsorships Likely Block DLSS

[wolf]

Just as people criticize Nvidia for their GPU prices & a lot of other shady stuff you can do that to any other competitor, if you want to change this vote with your wallet

I want to change this by helping put a spotlight on it. And this, if true, certianly doesn't make AMD any more endearing to me. I happily criticise Nvidia when it's due too, like removing streaming support from the shield and the woeful 40 series lineup.

if the market votes for DLSS+XeSS they'll thrive if not boo effin hoo!

Well, it'd help if they were all in AAA games and not blocked from being in them.

Best to stop responding to this guy, he's clearly defending AMD any way he can.

Some people can't be reasoned with, they're back on ignore, don't feed the trolls.

 

[eidairaman1]

Folks, I appreciate people place more passion in NV/AMD arguments than they do with real world problems, and I appreciate for some, it's nigh on impossible to be reasonable, but can I ask a favour?

Can those enthused by passion for debate on such global matters, please be a little bit more patient and civil?

This thread is a kneejerk reaction, making a mountain out of a mole hill

 

[wolf]

This thread is a kneejerk reaction

kneejerk to a topic that has been a major discussion point for weeks? I happen to think HUB's coverage of it was particularly comprehensive, and I also happen to agree with their assertion.

FSR is supported by ngreedia so this thread is moot

Disagree that it is moot, support isn't the be all end all of competing features, quality and performance matter too, and PC gamers tailoring their experience on a platform centered around choice.

 

[Kapone33]

If it was NVIDIA doing this to AMD the "NGREEDIA"s would be flying in this thread. But AMD does it to NVIDIA and Intel, and the red team apologists are out in force. This sort of antio-competitive behaviour is simply indefensible, but it's sure going to be fun/depressing seeing you contort yourselves trying.

And Intel Arc may be overall rubbish but XeSS is a tremendously impressive piece of tech. What's more impressive is that Intel has been able to make it arguably better than FSR despite the latter being around for a lot longer. Is AMD so threatened by Arc that they feel the need to gimp one of the techs that allows it to compete?

BTW AMD fans, where's HYPR-RX?

I did not see that when CP2077 or Nvidia announced support for DLSS. You can call it what you want but people are missing the point about DLSS. To enjoy the latest iteration you need a 4000 series GPU. I have seen Games (Redout 2) that only support XeSS but that doesn't bother me. The question I ask is why do people feel that DLSS is so important. Case in Point before DLSS existed or FSR or XeSS Sapphire had a utility in their Trixx software that allowed you to adjust the resolution scale in all Games. Why did Nvidia feel they needed to create their own when that was there and worked with all GPUs that used that software? There is also the fact that AMD has to focus on all fronts and face the mindshare ratio that has them up on CPUs but still narrated as weak and not as technically advanced in GPUs. I am just a Gamer so when it comes to GPUs the only factor is. Can it drive my monitor.

When Tomb Raider was really popular Nvidia introduced hairworks and we know other than Final Fantasy there really is nowhere else that it exists. Let's look at other tech that Nvidia has championed like Ray Tracing and see that when reviews of 4000 came out people were for the most part against Frame Generation. Well I guess Nvidia waved it's stick because all the usual suspects are now praising it. Why does Frame Generation exist? Is that part of DX12 API?

The way I see it the most impactful innovation in Gaming in the last 7 years has to be Freesync and in conjunction high refresh rate panels that support it. It has made Gaming a real joy and there is no Gamer that is into modern GPUs that does not a have high refresh rate panel. Adding these processes to the equation must introduce latency. I say this in every post about DLSS but show me an RTS or ARPG that supports DLSS.

I have also said that most of the Games people are focusing on will be Console ports and if you have and AMD system you won't have to worry as the Game has already been "optimized" to run on your Hardware. Part of that optimization is anything that AMD offers to improve performance but FSR is mostly for Consoles to support 4K panels. but still AMD tech. That is when we get the narrative that FSR looks worse because someone in front of a Camera says so or shows still images of such. That is missing the point as I don't know how many FPS Games give you time to admire the environment. I love to play Games and the Division 2, Spiderman and TWWH3 are some of the most beautiful Games I have ever seen and I don't use Ray Tracing but Dues Ex Humankind Divided still looks absolutely awesome visually. Not once in a session of D4 have i thought about DLSS, or XeSS or FSR.

If you have a 6700XT and up you don't need to worry about Upscaling anyway as long as you stick to the resolution rule.

 

[TheDeeGee]

Regarding the NVIDIA sponsored list in the video.

Keep in mind, NVIDIA isn't blocking FSR or XeSS, so if a game doesn't have it then it's a developer decision.

 

[Vya Domus]

Some people can't be reasoned with, they're back on ignore, don't feed the trolls.

Lol, when the time comes and you have to point out where exactly is the "evidence" for your claims, "he's troll", "back on ignore", etc.

A joke of a response as usual for a joke of a thread, didn't expect anything less from you.

Keep in mind, NVIDIA isn't blocking FSR or XeSS

I don't know, are they ?

There are Nvidia sponsored games with no FSR, it's only natural to assume they must be blocking in such situation, correct ? I mean that's the level of logic we're using here why apply it to one company ?

 

[Kapone33]

Correct -- they do that right now because they can list that as a competitive advantage that sells cards. Once it stops being that, you will 1000% see them walling things off.

When they come out with new tech, like eyefinity etc. it's will NOT be open source. And you will see that the next time they are first to something.

I guess Nvidia cards work better on Linux?

 

[the54thvoid]

Sorry folks, this is going nowhere. And it's a ball ache to moderate. Remind me when Starfield releases and you can have ten minutes of hatred to rub each others faces in whatever outcome there is.