• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AMD to Cut its Workforce by About Four Percent

Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
3,604 (0.57/day)
Location
Terra
System Name :)
Processor Intel 13700k
Motherboard Gigabyte z790 UD AC
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 64GB GSKILL DDR5
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC
Storage 960GB Optane 905P U.2 SSD + 4TB PCIe4 U.2 SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DW 175Hz QD-OLED + AOC Agon Pro AG276QZD2 240Hz QD-OLED
Case Fractal Design Torrent
Audio Device(s) MOTU M4 - JBL 305P MKII w/2x JL Audio 10 Sealed --- X-Fi Titanium HD - Presonus Eris E5 - JBL 4412
Power Supply Silverstone 1000W
Mouse Roccat Kain 122 AIMO
Keyboard KBD67 Lite / Mammoth75
VR HMD Reverb G2 V2
Software Win 11 Pro
Nope

I guess some of these might be employees of Xilinx and other recent acquisitions, since it's normal for companies to lay off some employees they consider redundant after an acquisition, but no idea honestly.

View attachment 371604
Interesting, I hadn't realized AMD bought ZT systems.
 
Joined
Apr 18, 2019
Messages
2,428 (1.16/day)
Location
Olympia, WA
System Name Sleepy Painter
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI
Cooling FSP Windale 6 - Passive
Memory 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T
Video Card(s) MSI RX580 8GB
Storage 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA
Display(s) Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync
Case NZXT Gamma Classic Black
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1
Power Supply Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz
Mouse Logitech MX518 Legend
Keyboard Red Dragon K552
Software Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757
Which, however, is not foolproof. Outside has first burned 9800x3d which pass with socket together. Bad installed possible.
Before I opened my big fat mouth, I waited for someone w/ some better cred to put it to bed. :laugh:
While I don't really care for the installation procedures of an LGA socketed platform, it was 100% the user being a big dumb oaf ("User Error")
 
Joined
Jan 27, 2024
Messages
456 (1.29/day)
Processor Ryzen AI
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Cool
Memory Fast
Video Card(s) Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon
Storage Chinese
Display(s) 4K
Case Transparent left side window
Audio Device(s) Yes
Power Supply Chinese
Mouse Chinese
Keyboard Chinese
VR HMD No
Software Android | Yandex
Benchmark Scores Yes
Your suggestion is as daft as it is ignorant. Lisa Su is the REASON AMD has made such a brilliant comeback! Just stop.

Wrong. Watch the video.

Lisa will have to go.


Is it time for Lisa Su to LEAVE AMD?​

Lisa Su was great for getting AMD out of debt and did well to establish HPC and chiplet success, BUT under her guidance AMD only takes safe risks with immediate return which results in a very short sighted vision and guidance. over the years this has meant that AMD lost several opportunities and stagnated in some areas and also puts them in a perpetual “catch-up” position. Interesting watch. I’ve thought this for a while now. Maybe they could get that Keller guy to come back or something. Or maybe they’d make the worst choice and hire an accountant as ceo? It also talks about the horrible marketing and lost opportunities in sales strategies.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/1d0e91q
1. Cutting the employees count;
2. No GPU competition at all;
3. Extremely bad GPU prices which stay stagnant for years, no new products released in some segments for years;
4. Has not solved the problem with the Intel and Nvidia market share dominance, the market still buys those;
5. Lack of interest to innovate with TSMC latest processes - 2 nm and 3 nm

Look at Nvidia's execution this year:

1731752161021.png


And AMD's execution this year:

1731752191897.png
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
9,580 (3.44/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
Wrong. Watch the video.

Lisa will have to go.


Is it time for Lisa Su to LEAVE AMD?​



https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/1d0e91q
1. Cutting the employees count;
2. No GPU competition at all;
3. Extremely bad GPU prices which stay stagnant for years, no new products released in some segments for years;
4. Has not solved the problem with the Intel and Nvidia market share dominance, the market still buys those;
5. Lack of interest to innovate with TSMC latest processes - 2 nm and 3 nm

Look at Nvidia's execution this year:

View attachment 371927

And AMD's execution this year:

View attachment 371928
From the minute I saw reddit I knew the truth. Go back to 2017 ans look at AMD's stock price. Then use Intel's numbers. It would tell you that there is no way AMD will ever catch Intel. I will play though.

1. Cutting Employees is a trend. They are all doing it.
2. The narrative talking again. That is why the 6600 is Number 1 on Canada Newegg and the 7900XT is in 3rd on Newegg.com.
3. This is pure projection a 7900XTX is the 2nd fastest GPU in most reviews but it is 1/3 the price of the 4090 where I live.
4 Has not solved the problem? Where have you been for the last 5 years?
5. Now you are reaching. In the CPU space AMD are the example of innovation. Or maybe turning the voltage up and opening as many transistors Gates as possible is innovation to you.

Now let me tell you about the narrative.

4K Ultra is the only way to test CPU performance
AMD GPUs are not good at Gaming
X3d chips are pure hype
AMD Drivers are garbage
AMD abandoned their users by not giving us Driver updates for 3 months
Nvidia is the King because Jensen is so smart, Yep that is why they are being investigated by more than one Fedaral Dept in the US
We should never use an AMD GPU in a video as that does not comport to the narrative.

That last one was from a pretty big Youtuber that took the time to respond to the message "Why do you guys never use AMD GPUs in your AMD CPU reviews. I am willing to bet that not a reviewer out there realizes that you can monitor Frame Time using AMD overlay.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Dec 16, 2017
Messages
2,962 (1.14/day)
System Name System V
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-P
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 // a bunch of 120 mm Xigmatek 1500 RPM fans (2 ins, 3 outs)
Memory 2x8GB Ballistix Sport LT 3200 MHz (BLS8G4D32AESCK.M8FE) (CL16-18-18-36)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte AORUS Radeon RX 580 8 GB
Storage SHFS37A240G / DT01ACA200 / ST10000VN0008 / ST8000VN004 / SA400S37960G / SNV21000G / NM620 2TB
Display(s) LG 22MP55 IPS Display
Case NZXT Source 210
Audio Device(s) Logitech G430 Headset
Power Supply Corsair CX650M
Software Whatever build of Windows 11 is being served in Canary channel at the time.
Benchmark Scores Corona 1.3: 3120620 r/s Cinebench R20: 3355 FireStrike: 12490 TimeSpy: 4624
I don't even want to look at videos. Hearing people droning on and on is irritating. Specially for 24 minutes. Screw that.

1731758935990.png


Anyway, AMD isn't doing too bad, and changing the CEO right now won't do anything other than cause chaos.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
28,576 (6.78/day)
Wrong. Watch the video.

Lisa will have to go.


Is it time for Lisa Su to LEAVE AMD?​



https://www.reddit.com/r/AMD_Stock/comments/1d0e91q
1. Cutting the employees count;
2. No GPU competition at all;
3. Extremely bad GPU prices which stay stagnant for years, no new products released in some segments for years;
4. Has not solved the problem with the Intel and Nvidia market share dominance, the market still buys those;
5. Lack of interest to innovate with TSMC latest processes - 2 nm and 3 nm

Look at Nvidia's execution this year:

View attachment 371927

And AMD's execution this year:

View attachment 371928
I'll give you credit for putting in some effort on this post. However the context of the content you've provided offers zero merit. So I'm going to go with my original statement and say that your suggestion is daft and ignorant. You are glossing over critical facts and twisting the rest to fit your silly narrative. Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
 
Joined
Aug 20, 2007
Messages
21,624 (3.40/day)
Location
Olympia, WA
System Name Pioneer
Processor Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon, Phanteks and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory 64GB (2x 32GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s) XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage Intel 5800X Optane 800GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s) 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s) TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024
Appears you two want a monopoly which will drive prices even further out.
I wouldn't count on them wanting it as much as them being sad to the new reality, man.

I'll give you credit for putting in some effort on this post. However the context of the content you've provided offers zero merit. So I'm going to go with my original statement and say that your suggestion is daft and ignorant. You are glossing over critical facts and twisting the rest to fit your silly narrative. Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
Nah man citing random youtube vids and rando reddit is really just low effort. Kids these days don't know what primary/secondary sources are.
 
Joined
Jan 27, 2024
Messages
456 (1.29/day)
Processor Ryzen AI
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Cool
Memory Fast
Video Card(s) Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon
Storage Chinese
Display(s) 4K
Case Transparent left side window
Audio Device(s) Yes
Power Supply Chinese
Mouse Chinese
Keyboard Chinese
VR HMD No
Software Android | Yandex
Benchmark Scores Yes
1. Cutting Employees is a trend. They are all doing it.

They are not doing it. Only companies with severe financial problems are doing it. Shrinking is never a good sign. You can't do more with less employees.

2. The narrative talking again. That is why the 6600 is Number 1 on Canada Newegg and the 7900XT is in 3rd on Newegg.com.

Cherry-picking or a straightforward lie. See how the 3rd place is occupied by 4090? Normal? I don't think so.

1731772892794.png


Better look at the Steam hardware survey.

The first Radeon at the 14th place (integrated graphics), the first real Radeon is at the 34th place.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

3. This is pure projection a 7900XTX is the 2nd fastest GPU in most reviews but it is 1/3 the price of the 4090 where I live.

In most non-RT reviews it trades blows with the much smaller RTX 4080/S.
In all RT reviews it is very slow.

1731773037127.png



4 Has not solved the problem? Where have you been for the last 5 years?
5. Now you are reaching. In the CPU space AMD are the example of innovation. Or maybe turning the voltage up and opening as many transistors Gates as possible is innovation to you.

Nvidia is the benchmark, not the struggling Intel which is downward spiraling, and sooner or later will exit the market.
 

tfp

Joined
Jun 14, 2023
Messages
89 (0.15/day)
Nvidia is the benchmark, not the struggling Intel which is downward spiraling, and sooner or later will exit the market.

Always the best logic, just like how AMD was in a downward spiral for about 5 years multiple times during their existence and during all of those times they exited the market and folded as a company. They also definitely didn't come back to take the performance lead for x86 CPUs multiple times.

Intel improving is more of a question of leadership and will then it is ability to do so.
 
Joined
Jun 2, 2017
Messages
9,580 (3.44/day)
System Name Best AMD Computer
Processor AMD 7900X3D
Motherboard Asus X670E E Strix
Cooling In Win SR36
Memory GSKILL DDR5 32GB 5200 30
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse 7900XT (Watercooled)
Storage Corsair MP 700, Seagate 530 2Tb, Adata SX8200 2TBx2, Kingston 2 TBx2, Micron 8 TB, WD AN 1500
Display(s) GIGABYTE FV43U
Case Corsair 7000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Corsair Void Pro, Logitch Z523 5.1
Power Supply Deepcool 1000M
Mouse Logitech g7 gaming mouse
Keyboard Logitech G510
Software Windows 11 Pro 64 Steam. GOG, Uplay, Origin
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 46183 Time Spy: 25121
They are not doing it. Only companies with severe financial problems are doing it. Shrinking is never a good sign. You can't do more with less employees.



Cherry-picking or a straightforward lie. See how the 3rd place is occupied by 4090? Normal? I don't think so.

View attachment 371971

Better look at the Steam hardware survey.

The first Radeon at the 14th place (integrated graphics), the first real Radeon is at the 34th place.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/



In most non-RT reviews it trades blows with the much smaller RTX 4080/S.
In all RT reviews it is very slow.

View attachment 371972




Nvidia is the benchmark, not the struggling Intel which is downward spiraling, and sooner or later will exit the market.
RT. What about pure raster? I could pull numbers to support my argument too. By the way all of those cards are more expensive than the 7900XTX. The Steam Hardware survey? Really? Which of my PCs do you think Steam picks for the survey. I could also counter with go on any e-tailer that has reviews and wonder how the reviews of people who have bought them and are using them compare to the narrative. There was a time when that had more merit than the Steam Hardware Survey. Meanwhile in the real world I know RT is a gimmick for people that play Strategy and RPG Games on PC. Show me a strategy Game that supports RT. You see this thread is about AMD's workforce cut and you bashing a company that made 6.8 billion last quarter based on their performance is not getting the point. It is not the performance but the narrative that has AMD GPUs in such a negative light. I could pull up reviews that show the 7900XTX in 2nd, 3rd and sometimes 1st in raw raster benchmarks.
 
Joined
Aug 20, 2007
Messages
21,624 (3.40/day)
Location
Olympia, WA
System Name Pioneer
Processor Ryzen R9 9950X
Motherboard GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon, Phanteks and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory 64GB (2x 32GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s) XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage Intel 5800X Optane 800GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s) 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s) TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024
The Steam Hardware survey? Really? Which of my PCs do you think Steam picks for the survey.
Hopefully a random one because that's how it should be working and that's statistically valid.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
28,576 (6.78/day)
They are not doing it. Only companies with severe financial problems are doing it. Shrinking is never a good sign. You can't do more with less employees.
Incorrect. A LOT of companies are doing it. Many parts of the world economy are in poor shape and when we add in AI being utilized to replace the job people used to do, the result is a wave companies doing lay-offs.

Cherry-picking or a straightforward lie. See how the 3rd place is occupied by 4090? Normal? I don't think so.

1731772892794.png


Better look at the Steam hardware survey.

The first Radeon at the 14th place (integrated graphics), the first real Radeon is at the 34th place.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/


In most non-RT reviews it trades blows with the much smaller RTX 4080/S.
In all RT reviews it is very slow.

1731773037127.png



Nvidia is the benchmark, not the struggling Intel which is downward spiraling, and sooner or later will exit the market.
The rest of this is the very definition of cherry-picking nonsense.
 
Joined
Sep 25, 2023
Messages
159 (0.33/day)
Location
Finland
System Name RayneOSX
Processor Ryzen 9 5900x 185w
Motherboard Asus Strix x570-E
Cooling EKWB AIO 360 RGB (9 ekwb vardar RGB fans)
Memory Gskill Trident Z neo CL18 3600mhz 64GB
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Z Trio 10G LHR
Storage Wayy too many to list here
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G5 1440p 144hz 27 x2 / Samsung Odyssey CRG5 1080p 144hz 24
Case LianLi 011D white w/ Vertical GPU
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Z / Swisssonic Audio 2
Power Supply Corsair RM1000x (2021)
Mouse Logitech G502 Hyperion Fury
Keyboard Ducky One 2 mini Cherry MX silent Nordic
VR HMD Quest 2
Software Win10 Pro / Ubuntu 20.04
Benchmark Scores Timespy 17 219 https://www.3dmark.com/spy/49036100 PERKELE!
Joined
Jan 27, 2024
Messages
456 (1.29/day)
Processor Ryzen AI
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Cool
Memory Fast
Video Card(s) Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon
Storage Chinese
Display(s) 4K
Case Transparent left side window
Audio Device(s) Yes
Power Supply Chinese
Mouse Chinese
Keyboard Chinese
VR HMD No
Software Android | Yandex
Benchmark Scores Yes
Look at how AMD's market share was fine during Radeon HD 4000 and Radeon HD 5000, and then after AMD stopped developing its GPUs, it has gone downward spiraling:

1732136177705.png

We are here ^^^^^^

 

tfp

Joined
Jun 14, 2023
Messages
89 (0.15/day)
2 more years and they should be tied with Intel for market share in the discreate graphics market.
 
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
28,576 (6.78/day)
Look at how AMD's market share was fine during Radeon HD 4000 and Radeon HD 5000, and then after AMD stopped developing its GPUs, it has gone downward spiraling:

View attachment 372624
We are here ^^^^^^

It should be noted, that the list in question contains data that is not verifiable, has no citations and should not be taken seriously as a result. The site itself is little more than fly-by-night twaddle with no credibility whatsoever.
 
Joined
Sep 30, 2024
Messages
112 (1.04/day)
Thanks Raja! The over-hype and under-deliver era severely damaged the Radeon brand, but the deliriously over-hyped and dead-ended RDNA architecture was the final nail in the coffin.

From 2014-2024 - his decisions utterly destroyed the Radeon brand and is now destroying the wider PC gaming market by handing it over to nV, who openly hates their gaming customers, and only cares about commercial enterprise sales.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 27, 2024
Messages
456 (1.29/day)
Processor Ryzen AI
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Cool
Memory Fast
Video Card(s) Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon
Storage Chinese
Display(s) 4K
Case Transparent left side window
Audio Device(s) Yes
Power Supply Chinese
Mouse Chinese
Keyboard Chinese
VR HMD No
Software Android | Yandex
Benchmark Scores Yes
It should be noted, that the list in question contains data that is not verifiable, has no citations and should not be taken seriously as a result. The site itself is little more than fly-by-night twaddle with no credibility whatsoever.

Can you post actual data, that you found verifiable, has citations and will be taken seriously ?
 
Joined
Jan 27, 2024
Messages
456 (1.29/day)
Processor Ryzen AI
Motherboard MSI
Cooling Cool
Memory Fast
Video Card(s) Matrox Ultra high quality | Radeon
Storage Chinese
Display(s) 4K
Case Transparent left side window
Audio Device(s) Yes
Power Supply Chinese
Mouse Chinese
Keyboard Chinese
VR HMD No
Software Android | Yandex
Benchmark Scores Yes
Joined
Jul 5, 2013
Messages
28,576 (6.78/day)
The truth, though, is that the data is real, and can be easily verified :D

View attachment 372762
View attachment 372763
View attachment 372764

View attachment 372761

Except that none of THAT is verifiable either because none of it is from publicly authenticated sources. Nice try, but total non-sense. Jon Peddie Research is not a source of data that can be trusted as the data they publish does not come from independently verifiable sources. It's all proprietary data that has not been peer vetted and verified.
 

Count von Schwalbe

Nocturnus Moderatus
Staff member
Joined
Nov 15, 2021
Messages
3,221 (2.78/day)
Location
Knoxville, TN, USA
System Name Work Computer | Unfinished Computer
Processor Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi
Cooling A fan? | Truly Custom Loop
Memory 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26
Video Card(s) Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE
Storage Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD
Display(s) 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD
Case Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400
Power Supply Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W
Mouse Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD
Don't get personal. Not worth it.
 
Top