AMD to Use Ryzen 8050 Series Numbering for "Strix Point" Mobile Processors?

[btarunr]

Leaked Lenovo product flyers point to the possibility of AMD's next-generation "Strix Point" mobile processor getting the processor numbering scheme of Ryzen 8050 series. The Lenovo flyer describes a ThinkPad T14 Gen 5 business notebook. Lending credence to the theory of the 8050 series being "Strix Point" is the numeral "5." The Ryzen 7030 series processors were based on the "Rembrand-R" silicon and the "Zen 3" microarchitecture. The Ryzen 7040 series were based on the newer "Phoenix" silicon, and "Zen 4." The current 8040 series chips are based on the "Hawk Point" silicon, and the existing "Zen 4" microarchitecture. See where this is going? The Ryzen 8050 series will hence be based on "Strix Point," featuring the latest "Zen 5" CPU cores, besides other cool stuff, such as a 50 AI TOPS-class NPU, and an updated iGPU based on the RDNA 3+ architecture. AMD's 2024 Computex address promises to be action-packed, with announcements expected across the client- and commercial processor spaces based on "Zen 5," next-gen EPYC "Zen 5" server processors, and perhaps even the Radeon RX RDNA 4.



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[Rais]

This nomenclature almost confuses me, in the industry on marketing side for a decade, imagine a "simple" customer.

Really bad.

 

[Firedrops]

I'm 100% sure they're intentionally revamping and/or fudging their own published naming conventions every other generation to keep things confusing.

 

[Chaitanya]

Next years CPUs will be 9050 and 9060 depending whether its Zen5 or Zen6 based. Nothing new to see here naming still in line with what AMD announced few years back(still stupid but not as bad as what Intel is doing).

 

[Wirko]

This nomenclature almost confuses me, in the industry on marketing side for a decade, imagine a "simple" customer.

Really bad.

To a simple (below-TPU-grade) customer, the "more is better" is a good enough approximation. They will always run Windows Newest and actually use the AI capabilities in CPUs. To do stupid things, of course, the way Nasdaq-100 members tell them to.

Everyone else will look at the third digit and ignore the other three digits, because Zen generation is ALL that matters, right?

 

[Rais]

To a simple (below-TPU-grade) customer, the "more is better" is a good enough approximation. They will always run Windows Newest and actually use the AI capabilities in CPUs. To do stupid things, of course, the way Nasdaq-100 members tell them to.

Everyone else will look at the third digit and ignore the other three digits, because Zen generation is ALL that matters, right?

IF they somehow managed to keep the "higher the better" i would agree with you. But they don't.

 

[Onasi]

@Rais
I think you misunderstood @Wirko. It isn’t about what the capabilities actually are. It’s about perception by uneducated consumers. “Bigger number = better” is a marketing tactic. Performance doesn’t factor into it. Besides, even said consumers don’t actually care since for general PC use hardware has reached “good enough” levels years ago to the point where the differences would be barely perceptible to the general public. All they do is browse the web and use an office suit anyway. We’re not talking enthusiasts, power users, IT professionals and the like here.

 

[tommo1982]

@Rais
I think you misunderstood @Wirko. It isn’t about what the capabilities actually are. It’s about perception by uneducated consumers. “Bigger number = better” is a marketing tactic. Performance doesn’t factor into it. Besides, even said consumers don’t actually care since for general PC use hardware has reached “good enough” levels years ago to the point where the differences would be barely perceptible to the general public. All they do is browse the web and use an office suit anyway. We’re not talking enthusiasts, power users, IT professionals and the like here.

They should change the naming convention to 'office/web browsing', 'gaming', 'power user' and do generations there. I slowly getting lost in AMD's CPU's names.

 

[cmguigamf]

Don't care what anybody says, this new naming scheme by AMD is confusing af. Because of it, I ended up recommending a Ryzen laptop with outdated/lower-power architecture for a family member, thank god they went with another option (still from AMD, but this time a better choice) by mistake.

 

[zo0lykas]

They should change the naming convention to 'office/web browsing', 'gaming', 'power user' and do generations there. I slowly getting lost in AMD's CPU's names.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

The only thing I am concerned about is "can I get business quality notebooks with that 16 CU GPU, or preferably, the 40CU strix halo?"

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If you need a decoder ring for your naming scheme, consider that your naming scheme sucks rocks.

 

[Wirko]

The only thing I am concerned about is "can I get business quality notebooks with that 16 CU GPU, or preferably, the 40CU strix halo?"

If you need a decoder ring for your naming scheme, consider that your naming scheme sucks rocks.

I know a guy who once bought a notebook with AMD A4-9120e CPU inside. Nine thousand, no less! The Swiss knife among piledrivers and frontloaders!

To also mention the company with own fabs, think of the i7-7**0U. Eye seven, woohoo!

What I mean is ... It used to be better, and it used to be worse. If AMD actually stays true to their decoder ring, that deserves some praise.

And the last sentence of my comment above is inside hidden <s> ... </s> tags. The generation of the cores is not the only important factor, and it's not like every Zen 4 product is better than every Zen 3 product.

One more thought. We're talking about mobile processors here. Manufacturers could be accused of deceptive practices if they paired a quality screen, strong case with proper cooling, a good selection of ports, 2-channel or swappable RAM and etc. with a weak processor just to cut some corners. Are there many such notebooks out there?

 

[tommo1982]

The only thing I am concerned about is "can I get business quality notebooks with that 16 CU GPU, or preferably, the 40CU strix halo?"

If you need a decoder ring for your naming scheme, consider that your naming scheme sucks rocks.

CPU code decoders are not a new thing. I wish they wouldn't be necessary, though.

 

[persondb]

To a simple (below-TPU-grade) customer, the "more is better" is a good enough approximation. They will always run Windows Newest and actually use the AI capabilities in CPUs. To do stupid things, of course, the way Nasdaq-100 members tell them to.

Everyone else will look at the third digit and ignore the other three digits, because Zen generation is ALL that matters, right?

Except it fails very much so on AMD naming scheme. Like the mendoncino SKU 7520U. Bigger is better, right? So it would be better than a 5600U or 5400U? Not really.

Is a 5700U (Zen 2) better than a 5600H(or U)? Not really.

 

[G777]

Apparently there may actually be a new naming scheme along the lines of "Ryzen AI 9 HX 170"

 

[Wirko]

Oh no! The Intel-AMD cartel is trying to catch up to Apple and their single-digit numbering, which just works! Browser version numbers are going to overtake processor model numbers any day now.

 

[LabRat 891]

Apparently there may actually be a new naming scheme along the lines of "Ryzen AI 9 HX 170"

I miss when model numbers were easy enough to 'decode' for even a relative neophyte.

 

[jpvalverde85]

Doesnt make sense, they are selling Zen4 products with iGPU as 8000 series. If they keep the naming convention, Zen5 chiplet with IO Die should be 9000 and with big iGPU should be 10000 or 9000 too. Anyway, i want a dockable Thinkpad with Strix Halo for my next all round laptop, so looking forward to it.

 

[ArcanisGK507]

anxiously waiting for the 8755HX/HS or 8745HX/HS model.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Yet Asus is showing AI 9 HX 170 naming for Strix in upcoming laptop. AMD about to get onto AI hype train big time.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Well, they did release the Athlon XP during the Windows XP era.