AMD Vega 64 bench with ultra setting

[qubit]

@saikamaldoss Would be nice to see a few 1080p benchies for comparison. Don't have to do the whole lot, just two or three is fine.

 

[Vario]

Why derail the thread over this nonsense?

 

[Vayra86]

1) Great that you've added it. It's rubbish.

2) Not that great that you didn't look for another one.

3) Pretty bad that you've actually believed in that number. It shows a pretty low lever of life experience.
750W would mean around 6.6MWh of energy yearly... that would cost ~1000 EUR. I think people would notice that in their household budgets.
Plus, the energy consumption figures of fridges are important selling points and usually shown on each model in stores. It's enough to go there once to know this. ;-)
Even if you look at pretty big or cheap models, it's hard to find something that uses more than 400 kWh and that's equivalent to around 46W of non-stop activity.


I don't know who the addressee of this comment, because you've quoted my text with @jimmyz4202 's name on top.

The energy consumption figures in the link are as expected, but I'm confused by something else.
How do Americans measure the volume of fridges? Because the values given in the text are enormous. The author mostly talks about 22-28 cubic feet models and calls 18-22 cf ones "small".
18 cubic feet is over 500 litres !

I don't know, Americans like it big I guess; regardless, it mostly was to point out that refrigeration (and airconditioning, another 'cooling unit') are among the highest portions of the energy bill. Of course YMMV, but there is one issue with refrigeration over MANY other devices in the house: turning it off from time to time is counterproductive, you can't save energy on this. With a PC it still is a choice (and with a Vega 64 perhaps even the best way to use it - undervolted) and full throttle use for over 2 hours a day, really is an exception for most people. For us enthusiasts probably double that number? Still, a 100w system power increase won't be of meaningful impact.

I wouldn't say derail the thread, its good to put power consumption figures in perspective, especially with a GPU that breaks records in TDP values for the past few years' releases. Many people seem to think its going to be of huge influence to bills, which is total nonsense for any normal household. Yes its an increase, but keep in mind that someone using a PC, is for example also *not* using some other device that eats power like a TV or some other appliance in the home. A 33% higher TDP value on a card really is irrelevant, you can easily save that elsewhere with conscious use of appliances.

@notb sorry for the misquote, or not? Im confused now But yea it was directed at Jimmy, you do grasp the concept of kWh

 

[Tatty_Two]

I have performed a cleanup, how the f*** some of you managed to reduce this to fridges I don't know, feel free to discuss relevant power consumption, noise etc in the review threads or general discussion threads, just let the guy share some performance benches, he has a new card and he wants to share his findings. If you are not interested then maybe go and find your fun elsewhere.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

First of: please learn how to properly quote on this forum.

If a fridge used 500W non stop, quite a lot of people owning one would have no money left for food.

A decent, modern fridge uses around 100W, but only when the compressor is working. It depends on a few things: how much is inside, how often you open the window and, obviously, the external temperature.

A typical fridge (~300l including a freezer) available today will use around 250 kWh yearly, which is roughly equivalent to 30W.

Samsung's 2017 model comes in at 475Kwh , and that figure is in Samsung's specs not someone's opinion.

So applying your math to vega its fine, in use , typical use and not overclocked a vega is not too bad on power use , mining it pulls /200watts not great but not 400 when gaming i have mine use about 250 watts max again not too far in the red for me.
You can pull a lot of watts with any hardware with enough time and effort and its quite possible to use that much on a 1080 or ti if you Oc but anyway its not watts that matters now.

so heat and noise is whats most important now , honestly ,your tech wisdom is astounding.

all chips as they are getting smaller are also getting hotter due to some stuff based on something called physics, intel are working on a fix for that and moores law called tock++ but others havent found any great revelations yet bar ibm and hp

I would respect your opinion on vega more if, nope there is no if , your not going to buy one to Know anything ,just asume you know because ,, google.

sorry Tatty one i just saw your post , made me chukkle

 

[SKD007]

Ok first of I am happy with the power usage as my system is using less power than what my Phenom x6 and 280x use to gulp up... I have used HWiNFO64 to monitor power and have update main post with screenshots for your reference.

edit : About temperature... I use WattTool to set target temp as 73 and max fan to 2900 and now my card wont cross 76 now matter how may hours of stress test I do..

And guess what: it's more relevant than ever with Vega.


yes we need that $5 a month to live.
We care about the heat output and noise levels, not our electricity bills, that too difficult to comprehend

that was a reply to
Tsukiyomi91 not you.. and now its heat haan lol.... my card wont cross 76 even after stress testing it for 6hrs

@saikamaldoss Would be nice to see a few 1080p benchies for comparison. Don't have to do the whole lot, just two or three is fine.

let me know the games you want me to try... check out my steam profile for the games I own.. https://steamcommunity.com/id/SKD007

As @cucker tarlson mentioned, what's actually important is heat and noise, not power draw.

Looking at noise levels of the reference Vega, I really don't understand who would buy that. I would have to live alone and always use the PC in headphones.
IMO this card only makes sense if you plan to replace the cooler (preferably with a liquid one), at which point the total cost would easily raise above a good 1080Ti. Pfff.
And the fan is not switching of in idle - something people got used to lately. Even some 1080Ti can do that.

We'll see if AIB partners manage to fix this, but the coolers will have to be substantial, so not cheap. I think they'll get pretty close to the 1080Ti as well.
There are already rumors that the premium for AIB cards will be record high. And that the cards might end up factory downclocked...

And you're from Florida, so it's not like you could use the extra heat as well.
I bet you have air-conditioning at home - it would have been "noticing" that Vega as well.


Measured in power - yes. But in energy/month? I think the PC "wins" that one.

I will be going for a water block soon..

Considering that most people game no more than a couple of hours per day at best , differences in terms of the electricity bill are insignificant.

Absolutely.. I hardly play 3 to 6hrs a week. lol I regret posting this thread.. all i see is heat towards AMD walking all over it lol

as if I give a :shirt:

the post was to help people see what this card can do for a normal users and man its going off track from the moment i click on post ha ha ha

 

[qubit]

let me know the games you want me to try... check out my steam profile for the games I own.. https://steamcommunity.com/id/SKD007

It's ok, all I was thinking of was Fire Strike and GTA V. We can then compare the performance of your system directly at the two resolutions since it's like for like.

the post was to help people see what this card can do for a normal users and man its going off track from the moment i click on post ha ha ha

I quite agree. I'm an Intel/NVIDIA user myself and have my reasons for this preference, but this is hardly the place to start spouting off about it. I'm glad you're happy with your system and are willing to share these benchies with everyone.
Oh and never let the bad behaviour of others put you off from posting anything legitimate. I see that tatty has cleaned the thread of the fascinating subject of fridges lol, so you're not alone.

 

[Vayra86]

I can think of one 'enthusiast' reason to go Vega, and that is being closer to the development of HBM on GPUs. It has a certain attraction to it, getting the latest tech instead of 'upgraded GDDR'.

 

[SKD007]

It's ok, all I was thinking of was Fire Strike and GTA V. We can then compare the performance of your system directly at the two resolutions since it's like for like.

I quite agree. I'm an Intel/NVIDIA user myself and have my reasons for this preference, but this is hardly the place to start spouting off about it. I'm glad you're happy with your system and are willing to share these benchies with everyone.
Oh and never let the bad behaviour of others put you off from posting anything legitimate. I see that tatty has cleaned the thread of the fascinating subject of fridges lol, so you're not alone.

Fire Strike and GTA V ok done.. and also let me know what are the settings to use for GTA.. thanks man. this is what I was looking for when I posted stuff. I wanted people to be enthusiastic about bench and ask question and post some answers to help me get the best out of my setup. Anyways... better late than never. appreciate your support.


notb : I am unable to find your post.. I did see that you wanted to know why I want to spend more on Vega and a water block tho I could easily bought a Nvidia TI..Its not about money. I never upgraded 280x as I was only playing at 1080p and it was more then enough.. now that I am on 4k.. I need a better card.

there was a time... All I could see was green.. ha ha ha but for some reason. non of the cards I owned did not last more than a year or 2.. so I am bit worried about my luck with Nvidia and wanted to stick to my good luck charm AMD which never failed in my hands.. also I have a 4k freesync monitor and not planning to buy Gsync.

its more of a personal choice.. nothing against nvidia

I can think of one 'enthusiast' reason to go Vega, and that is being closer to the development of HBM on GPUs. It has a certain attraction to it, getting the latest tech instead of 'upgraded GDDR'.

Yes you are right. One is HBM second is new tech shared Memory (RAM) then FP16 then Freesync.. also I felt in my openion AMD age better.

LOL isn't that what I wrote ?

Yes you are... Ryzen is 95W which is 4w more than 7700k at 91W (4C/8T for 91W or 8C/16T for 95W) which is better ??

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I can think of one 'enthusiast' reason to go Vega, and that is being closer to the development of HBM on GPUs. It has a certain attraction to it, getting the latest tech instead of 'upgraded GDDR'.

Agreed ,some just don't get it , some just game ,im ok with that my mates got the 1080ti i suggested he get because he's a gamer ,but the likes of me are just biased fools to some.

Im glad i told my mate to get the ti , the arguments are entertaining because his is soo much faster then mine in his head ,hes right but then i don't just game.

 

[SKD007]

It's ok, all I was thinking of was Fire Strike and GTA V. We can then compare the performance of your system directly at the two resolutions since it's like for like.


I quite agree. I'm an Intel/NVIDIA user myself and have my reasons for this preference, but this is hardly the place to start spouting off about it. I'm glad you're happy with your system and are willing to share these benchies with everyone.
Oh and never let the bad behaviour of others put you off from posting anything legitimate. I see that tatty has cleaned the thread of the fascinating subject of fridges lol, so you're not alone.

I have updated it.. while driving with 8x AA i get 60FPS but when i stop the car, clock falls short and drops to 56 and worst was 50 for GTA.