AMD Will Fix Adrenalin Driver Game Incompatibility Issues After All

cdawall · Jan 3, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
That is a misunderstanding that needs to be put to rest. The games affected by this problem are experiencing bugs and graphical glitches. Based on statements made elsewhere, all of the games still run.

That's not true some of those games wouldn't even launch. Red alert 3 and crysis 1 in dx9 don't even come up with out mods on the 17.12.2 driver.

Readlight · Jan 3, 2018

Maybe it's the reason why Steam installation makes computer to crash, blue screen.

rtwjunkie · Jan 3, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
No, they're fixing it because they're responsible and care about the gaming community

No, no company does that. They fix things because bad press leads to revenue loss. Every decision any for-profit company makes is based on money.

Even charitable events some do are meant to stir favorable reactions they hope will lead to sales, etc.

lexluthermiester · Jan 3, 2018

rtwjunkie said:
No, no company does that. They fix things because bad press leads to revenue loss. Every decision any for-profit company makes is based on money.
Even charitable events some do are meant to stir favorable reactions they hope will lead to sales, etc.

Rubbish! We all know that money talks. That doesn't stop professional people from having a passion for what they do and taking pride in their work. AMD, all of my complaints about them aside, has earned my respect because their actions say loud and clear that they care about their customers. They are willing to put their best foot forward, even if it means a little less money.

INSTG8R · Jan 3, 2018

Readlight said:
Maybe it's the reason why Steam installation makes computer to crash, blue screen.

Give it up it’s your PC...Millions of people on Steam right now including me :rolleyes:

Zero connection with your “issue”

lexluthermiester · Jan 3, 2018

Readlight said:
Maybe it's the reason why Steam installation makes computer to crash, blue screen.

INSTG8R said:
Give it up it’s your PC...Millions of people on Steam right now including me Zero connection with your “issue”

Agreed. Whatever is causing Steam installations to crash has nothing to do with AMD's drivers as this problem does not affect system stability.

rtwjunkie · Jan 3, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
Rubbish! We all know that money talks. That doesn't stop professional people from having a passion for what they do and taking pride in their work. AMD, all of my complaints about them aside, has earned my respect because their actions say loud and clear that they care about their customers. They are willing to put their best foot forward, even if it means a little less money.

Passion doesn't make money. As a former Fortune 500 company upper-level manager I interfaced with many clients of also Fortune 500 companies.

No matter what they did good in the public arena, the eye was always on whether it had future good impact on revenue and market share.

I like AMD too. Just don't get the idea that they don't care about profit as much as their passion for computers. It's just that they aren't very good at making money, that's all.

INSTG8R · Jan 3, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
Agreed. Whatever is causing Steam installations to crash has nothing to do with AMD's drivers as this problem does not affect system stability.

He just liked to inject that anywhere he seems to think it applies(which it never does...)

64K · Jan 3, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
Rubbish! We all know that money talks. That doesn't stop professional people from having a passion for what they do and taking pride in their work. AMD, all of my complaints about them aside, has earned my respect because their actions say loud and clear that they care about their customers. They are willing to put their best foot forward, even if it means a little less money.

Really, AMD will flat out mislead their customers too. Remember when the Fury X was unveiled at E3 about 2 1/2 years ago? Here's what was said about it:

“You’ll be able to overclock this thing like no tomorrow,” AMD CTO Joe Macri said. “This is an overclocker’s dream.”

Review here was a disappointing 10% OC for a gain of 5% in FPS

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Fury_X/34.html

lexluthermiester · Jan 3, 2018

rtwjunkie said:
Passion doesn't make money.

Tell that to Steve Jobs, Bill Gates or Elon Musk. That list could go on. Business is business, and it's about making money. But not exclusively! Do you think I run my PC building thing for money alone? No. I do it because it's a passion and I enjoy it. I care about my clients. Big companies are not all heartless, though greed plays a big factor.

rtwjunkie · Jan 3, 2018

Sure, you SHOULD enjoy what you do. But, in your case, to put it in perspective, let's say that you screw up someone's build, or the customer thinks you do, and they start badmouthing your business and build quality.

Are you going to fix his computer because of your passion, or because you want to halt any future revenue loss based on his/her bad reviews?

lexluthermiester · Jan 3, 2018

rtwjunkie said:
Sure, you SHOULD enjoy what you do. But, in your case, to put it in perspective, let's say that you screw up someone's build, or the customer thinks you do, and they start badmouthing your business and build quality.

Are you going to fix his computer because of your passion, or because you want to halt any future revenue loss based on his/her bad reviews?

That has and likely will happen again. I have and would fix it because I take pride in my work. There's an idiom that fits perfectly here; "You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time." Is it wise to worry about the people who are inconsolable? Or is it wise to do your best to do what's correct and right and let the cards fall as they may?

EarthDog · Jan 3, 2018

64K said:
“You’ll be able to overclock this thing like no tomorrow,” AMD CTO Joe Macri said. “This is an overclocker’s dream.”

And for the umteeenth time, that line was in reference to thermal overhead. I was there (it wasn't at E3, but in a pre-release meeting) in L.A in the pool of journalists/reviewers when it was said. There is video of it making the rounds.. I was there.

I can see how it was easily misconstrued, however.

FordGT90Concept · Jan 3, 2018

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948622475679752192

Will be testing this tomorrow across The Witcher, Command & Conquer 3, Command & Conquer 4, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3: Uprising, Mini Ninjas, The Witcher 2 (might be related), and Sanctum (might be related).

lexluthermiester · Jan 3, 2018

FordGT90Concept said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948622475679752192
Will be testing this tomorrow across The Witcher, Command & Conquer 3, Command & Conquer 4, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3: Uprising, Mini Ninjas, The Witcher 2 (might be related), and Sanctum (might be related).

Damn, that was fast!

R-T-B · Jan 3, 2018

xkm1948 said:
Without media attention i am pretty sure they would simply sweep this issue under the rug and wait for people to forget. So kudos to TPU for keeping the pressure on.

And no, there is no such thing as overreacting. Companies need the pressure from tech media to keep up good work. For example without TPU that Intel ME situation may be long lost in time.

I agree completely. People complain about the complaints like it hurts their ears or something, but then unless they work for AMD, they shouldn't be. It's doing nothing but keeping companies producing a quality product.

Readlight · Jan 4, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
Agreed. Whatever is causing Steam installations to crash has nothing to do with AMD's drivers as this problem does not affect system stability.

Everything was fine whit previous whql, except this one has better response.
Now i haw to find crack for steam purchased game because they don't work in offline when internet limit has been spent. Shit Steam.

EarthDog · Jan 4, 2018

Shit internet.

lexluthermiester · Jan 4, 2018

Readlight said:
Everything was fine whit previous whql, except this one has better response.
Now i haw to find crack for steam purchased game because they don't work in offline when internet limit has been spent. Shit Steam.

Fair enough. That is why I don't use Steam. Would otherwise be simply awesome. But DRM via online presence, steam client requirements and other crap doesn't stop pirates, it only pisses off the legit users and turns some of them into pirates and is therefore abhorrent. Seriously, how many tears are they expecting us to shed over grabbing a game and running it in a cracked way when they treat us like thieves in the first place? Although, I actually buy the games on Steam, if they're not on GOG, but use the cracked versions. Most of the games in my Steam library are paid for and have never been downloaded.

cdawall · Jan 4, 2018

What game doesn't work when you restart steam in offline mode?

Vayra86 · Jan 4, 2018

Props. Timely response.

fullinfusion · Jan 5, 2018

FordGT90Concept said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/948622475679752192

Will be testing this tomorrow across The Witcher, Command & Conquer 3, Command & Conquer 4, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3, Command & Conquer Red Alert 3: Uprising, Mini Ninjas, The Witcher 2 (might be related), and Sanctum (might be related).

You guys all need to thank @FordGT90Concept for all the work and tests he put in at Vanguard and provided the driver team with this fix that was released...

You never let me down ford!! :toast:

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AMD Will Fix Adrenalin Driver Game Incompatibility Issues After All

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