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AMD's David McAfee Celebrates 25th Anniversary of Radeon Graphics Technology

The latest AMD 25.3.1 drivers have big problems for the RX 7900XT. Typical AMD. Unfortunately, we can't rely on AMD. Desktop artifacts and flickering screens and fans that seem to turn on randomly. Incredible. After spending a lot of money on the video card. Only problems.
7900XT here. Only installed these latest drivers yesterday, but I have not noticed any issue so far. Fan stop works perfectly on the desktop. Launched a couple of games with no issues.

Card has been solid since I got it last year and absolutely no regrets for the price I paid. Only complaint is that the backplate can get pretty toasty in my micro ATX case, and I don't have much headroom for undervolting/overclocking compared to the techpowerup reviews... that could be in part due to the higher temps in a case, or it could be that running Hogwarts Legacy for an hour is a good stress test :)
 
Here's to some recognition to Raja Koduri's contributions to the only Radeons that were ever worth owning. The fanbase did this man one dirty over the years.
Vega was his baby, Polaris was entirely a result of the GlobalFoundry wafer agreement requiring a fab filler.
 
Ran that shit into the ground.

Blame Raja?
 
I'm not in the US but AMD said 900W minimum for the 9070XT. That basically means 1000W as most manufacturers jump from 850W to 1000W in their lineup. I figured $200 was ballpark pricing in dollars for a 1000W PSU these days.

We both know that's not necessary if you get a good-quality 800W PSU, as the XT peaks at 450W transients - but your average joe is going to read "needs 900W" and buy a PSU that's over 900W.
They are saying 750 watts on their website, so I was confused. Powercolor made a version of the card that needs more power, but that's the not the case for the majority of the SKUs
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Vega was his baby, Polaris was entirely a result of the GlobalFoundry wafer agreement requiring a fab filler.

I refer to a much earlier time, when he was the director of advanced technology development at ATI in the early 2000's. He was also CTO of graphics at AMD until 2009 or so, truth is, it's all been Raja from the start. And I've always held the belief that if Polaris (most commercially successful GPU of all time) and Vega were even salvaged, it's because of his contributions.

Blame Raja?

Perhaps the average AMD diehard's favorite cop-out, second only to "Bulldozer actually wasn't bad" :laugh:
 
I'm not in the US but AMD said 900W minimum for the 9070XT. That basically means 1000W as most manufacturers jump from 850W to 1000W in their lineup. I figured $200 was ballpark pricing in dollars for a 1000W PSU these days.

We both know that's not necessary if you get a good-quality 800W PSU, as the XT peaks at 450W transients - but your average joe is going to read "needs 900W" and buy a PSU that's over 900W.

Nah, 700w is fine.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/sapphire-pulse-rx-9070-xt.b12275

Red Devil models have consistently required PSUs with capacities well beyond what is actually necessary; https://www.powercolor.com/product-detail115.htm

I don't mind, since quality PSUs are fairly affordable. It's wise to choose one with a higher capacity, as it ensures longevity and prepares you for future upgrades.
 
Polaris (most commercially successful GPU of all time)
They barely made any money in that era despite selling many cards.
Radeon group posted their highest profits during the early PS5 & RDNA2 era. This can be seen in their financial reports.
 
They barely made any money in that era despite selling many cards.
Radeon group posted their highest profits during the early PS5 & RDNA2 era. This can be seen in their financial reports.

That's what happens when you set MSRP at $199. ;)
 
The video card scalping is worse than FX! Sometimes, I rather that it be 2015 again!
 
7900XT here. Only installed these latest drivers yesterday, but I have not noticed any issue so far. Fan stop works perfectly on the desktop. Launched a couple of games with no issues.

Card has been solid since I got it last year and absolutely no regrets for the price I paid. Only complaint is that the backplate can get pretty toasty in my micro ATX case, and I don't have much headroom for undervolting/overclocking compared to the techpowerup reviews... that could be in part due to the higher temps in a case, or it could be that running Hogwarts Legacy for an hour is a good stress test :)
I call it pebcak
 
remember the ati x800xt all-in-wonder?… still have the box… View attachment 388905
not sure why I kept it, but I tend to keep the boxes…
The Radeon All-In-Wonder series was my favorite. Was very saddened when AMD bought ATI and then shortly thereafter announced they weren't going to make any more of them.
 
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Radeon brand celebrates 25 years of competitive attitude, fair prices, good availability and technology pioneering.

...

I remember the times the Radeon brand actually represented those.
Me, too. It's like it was literally yesterday.

Oh wait, it totally was!
I refer to a much earlier time, when he was the director of advanced technology development at ATI in the early 2000's. He was also CTO of graphics at AMD until 2009 or so, truth is, it's all been Raja from the start. And I've always held the belief that if Polaris (most commercially successful GPU of all time) and Vega were even salvaged, it's because of his contributions.



Perhaps the average AMD diehard's favorite cop-out, second only to "Bulldozer actually wasn't bad" :laugh:
That's a hot, hot take (and Raja's attitude across his many positions and product history prove otherwise).

The lineage and soul of the AMD GPG, and certainly ATi as most knew them, stems back to ArtX (former SGI employees), imo, which contributions truly led to the change from Rage to Radeon as we know it.

It was many people like Dave Orton, Eric Demers, and others (some still there, but most gone afaik) that brought about, and forward, the philosophy that largely continues with AMD GPG to this day, imo.

I wish I had a list of the Artx employees that were absorbed into ATi (and then some later into AMD), as I don't recall every single one at this moment.

If I showed you all their innovations and methodologies that went into some of the products people have loved over the years you would be stunned how many of them stem from mainly those people.

If I showed you that list, you'd realize they created the Radeon philosophy. It is a very small group of incredibly talented people (not to say others haven't and don't continue to contribute greatly to this day).

It was something like a dozen people or so.

Specifically, going out of their way to mention the 32MB of RAM on the 25 years-ago card
*and* (in the same statement) bringing up the 24GB XTX, while celebrating their newest 16GB card...

If AMD is not actively baiting (and building) upon the 32GB and XTX(H) Navi48 rumors, then they're hilariously obtuse. :laugh:

Yeah, that's very much appears to be happening. How that chip/card are going to handle ~525W I do not know, but I guess we're probably to find out. I can only imagine if that thing can boost to ~3.9ghz.

I just want to know if they're going to undercut the 5070ti with stock RT performance of a 5080 (and enough ram not to suck at 1440pRT/4k raster). That would be very cool, and very much Radeon. :love:
Ruby back please!

+3000. I've wanted to talk about this for a while, so I'm glad you brought it up.

I think Ruby embodied Radeon so perfectly. I miss it soooo much. I know female mascots in that fashion became passe for a while, but they really should bring her back. I think today's audience would love it.

For nostalgia, if nothing else. Or, you know, the younger generation embracing the older generations nostalgia and finding a way to connect.

I also think it would do their branding, and maybe even morale, a lot of good. There's just something so special about Ruby; I don't know if it's the scrappy nature, attitude, lineage you can follow or what. IYKYK.

It also contrasted with Dawn (the nVIDIA fairy) so incredibly perfectly. Are you corporate shine or are you an underdog rebel?

I don't promote brand wars, but to me that character really embodied being part of something; a group sharing similar attitude/methodology, and something you could celebrate when owning their products.

I still think they *want* people to think of Radeon that way, so I can't think of a better way to do it than to bring back Ruby and help solidify that branding in a more grandiose fashion.

I feel like today's generation would *get* it in a way we used to and that maybe got lost for a while (and why they stopped doing it).

Ruby was a mascot; a very cool thing that embodied Radeon's attitude. It was an expression of joy and an outlet for the hard edge of creating and understanding the technology.

It wasn't ever about selling sex or anything like that, which is why I think it stopped (it got associated with 'booth babe' culture), at least not to me. I think the current public would understand and embrace that.

Some may take it further, but that's the irony of life; let them. People will do that with anything if they're extremely passionate about it, for the rest of us we can just enjoy a cool tech demo. :)

I don't think AMD understands this, but sometimes you do things like sell a Ruby body pillow in the store bc that's just how current culture is. I just want a key chain, maybe a figurine, but some want a body pillow.

Or, again, just a tech demo.
 
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That's a hot, hot take (and Raja's attitude across his many positions and product history prove otherwise).

The lineage and soul of the AMD GPG, and certainly ATi as most knew them, stems back to ArtX (former SGI employees), imo, which contributions truly led to the change from Rage to Radeon as we know it.

It was many people like Dave Orton, Eric Demers, and others (some still there, but most gone afaik) that brought about, and forward, the philosophy that largely continues with AMD GPG to this day, imo.

I wish I had a list of the Artx employees that were absorbed into ATi (and then some later into AMD), as I don't recall every single one at this moment.

If I showed you all their innovations and methodologies that went into some of the products people have loved over the years you would be stunned how many of them stem from mainly those people.

If I showed you that list, you'd realize they created the Radeon philosophy. It is a very small group of incredibly talented people (not to say others haven't and don't continue to contribute greatly to this day).

It was something like a dozen people or so.

Then you slap me with an even hotter take in retribution :laugh:
 
I refer to a much earlier time, when he was the director of advanced technology development at ATI in the early 2000's. He was also CTO of graphics at AMD until 2009 or so, truth is, it's all been Raja from the start. And I've always held the belief that if Polaris (most commercially successful GPU of all time) and Vega were even salvaged, it's because of his contributions.



Perhaps the average AMD diehard's favorite cop-out, second only to "Bulldozer actually wasn't bad" :laugh:
Its been Raja from the start, EXACTLY, and ATI hasn't gone anywhere but on a downward trajectory.

But oh oh, no don't blame the man, he did great work achieving a slow decline over several decades, yeah. You have got to be kidding me. Strategical flip-flopping every 2-3 generations, below the belt marketing that keeps backfiring on AMD... Rebrandeon...

Now... look at where RDNA is positioned today... effectively on par with Nvidia if you discount the ridiculously large chips.
 
Its been Raja from the start, EXACTLY, and ATI hasn't gone anywhere but on a downward trajectory.

But oh oh, no don't blame the man, he did great work achieving a slow decline over several decades, yeah. You have got to be kidding me. Strategical flip-flopping every 2-3 generations, below the belt marketing that keeps backfiring on AMD... Rebrandeon...

Now... look at where RDNA is positioned today... effectively on par with Nvidia if you discount the ridiculously large chips.

Doubt he's responsible for any single one of those decisions, specifically the ones who made them get crushed under Nvidia's boot for the past God knows how many years. Sizable list of people that I rank above to take that blame, from the marketing and product planning teams to Lisa Su herself.

And it's a bit early to declare victory, RDNA 4 is a good product for once, now to drill that onto the consumer's mind will take execution and timing. I do have faith though.

I'm gonna die on this hill, Raja did nothing wrong lol :toast:
 
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Doubt he's responsible for any single one of those decisions, specifically the ones who made them get crushed under Nvidia's boot for the past God knows how many years. Sizable list of people that I rank above to take that blame, from the marketing and product planning teams to Lisa Su herself.

And it's a bit early to declare victory, RDNA 4 is a good product for once, now to drill that onto the consumer's mind will take execution and timing. I do have faith though.

I'm gonna die on this hill, Raja did nothing wrong lol :toast:
I think on a technical POV Raja is a fine addition to a team. The man is a technician. Not a sales guy, not a manager, not a project lead. He's simply been gloriously incompetent at those jobs.
 
Then you slap me with an even hotter take in retribution :laugh:

You don't think the creators of the 9700 pro literally created the brand as we know it today?

There were some neat products beforehand (like the AIWs), but that's just wrong. Do you actually know anything about these companies?

Dave: good. Raja: bad. Eric: good. Raja: bad. Lots of countless other engineers/officers good. Raja bad. Now they are fixing the damage his decisions made to the brand, and it isn't the first time.
Vayra is kinda-sorta correct, as far as I know (and that is quite a bit, although obviously I don't know and/or remember every specific detail).

Raja is not a stupid person; he absolutely made positive contributions to some products. But as a leader/decision-maker he was not successful, and made provably poor choices for their markets.
This was proven not only by the what came out of AMD from him, but also Intel.

He literally got....he 'left' both those companies under questionable circumstances. This is not what you do with people that are helping your brand or successfully completing their goals.

Many of the people I am mentioning left of their own accord, but unfortunately some of them also got caught in layoffs/bad restructuring ideas at misc moments as well, which is a bummer.
I don't think it was really their fault, though, as over the years there have been many times AMD was in a world of hurt and other times they took RTG for granted, as well.

That's not important to this thread, though. It's about celebrating 25 years of Radeon. I have the last Rage and *had* the first Radeon; should have kept them all...only kept the Fury MAXX (bc weird).
I absolutely should have kept my 9500/9700/9800 pros, and will always feel stupid that I didn't. I think I sold each one for the other though.

Then sold that for an X800XL that was absolutely not a review sample that shouldn't have been sold, so I guess that explains that. Yep, long-time Radeon user. RV670/770, Barts, Pitcairn...lots of stuff.

Then I eventually bought a 970 with fucked up ram/bus, and it eventually almost burned down my house. Went mostly back to Radeon after that, but obviously buy what makes sense (which is usually a Radeon).

I think on a technical POV Raja is a fine addition to a team. The man is a technician. Not a sales guy, not a manager, not a project lead. Yet that's what he did :D
100000000% accurate. I don't know the man, but this is what history tells us.
 
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The only card I ever regretted parting with was my Radeon VII so I guess that counts for something! :D
 
You know what would be fun? That if AMD released an anniversary card that has the exact same dimensions and power envelope as the ATI Radeon DDR, but with the latest technology and specs they can fit within those limits. Bonus points the more visually identical it is.
Now THAT would be how you create something special.
 
The only card I ever regretted parting with was my Radeon VII so I guess that counts for something! :D
Yeah, if I would have had one of those I would've kept that too....I had a 1080/2080Ti those eras.

Fascinating designs, Fiji and Vega. Really, many of them are. Even Navi 3 is, imho.

That doesn't mean every single one was the all-out-best product in the market at the time, and sometimes they were good options simply due to (comparative) pricing, but one cannot say they weren't innovative.

Certainly forward-thinking wrt relative bandwidth concerns and saving space on the die (from adding too much cache), etc. It's decisions like this, even if not the *most* performative, that show their strengths.

It keeps costs down while using whatever is available to them to get the performance that is required into a product. You may say Navi 3 didn't have the greatest RT, or ML wasn't ready, or didn't hit high clocks.

That is all fair. But they still made good GPUs that accomplished their goal for relative raster markets of 1080p, 1440p, and 4k at good pricing. That is due to those decisions (and perhaps sometimes concessions).

Concessions I would argue were fair (lower prices bc not having features that many haven't really needed or weren't using up until this point).

I personally think they nailed it with 9070 XT. Even more-so if prices stay in-check and/or eventually decline to the 7800xt/gre market. That's a great product for that budget tier (right now). RT/FSR4 included.
 
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The latest AMD 25.3.1 drivers have big problems for the RX 7900XT. Typical AMD. Unfortunately, we can't rely on AMD. Desktop artifacts and flickering screens and fans that seem to turn on randomly. Incredible. After spending a lot of money on the video card. Only problems.
You probably have Zero-fan on which is normal? The fans don't start until the GPU gets to a certain temperature. Did someone build/optimize the PC for you and apply a custom profile?
If so, then you must re-apply that profile when installing new drivers.
Also, there's always a chance something goes wrong with an update, it's software after all and it isn't immune to everything. Trying a clean driver install could help.
Fill out your PC specs, open a thread and we're glad to help :)

25.3.1 working normaly on wife's 6650 XT, my 6800 XT and a mates 7900 XTX.

Never had any issues with ATI/AMD cards and I've had plenty:
Rage Pro 128,
8500,
9600 Pro,
X1650 Pro (the AGP one),

6600 GT,
8800 GT,
GTX 260,
GTX 460 (cheap LC Power PSU blew up on this one and took the GPU with it, got a free replacement from MSI),
R9 270X,
R9 290X,
RX Vega 56
(BIOS-flashed to 64 and overclocked to heavens),
RX 6800 XT (MPT and OC to 340W).
 
“We know what matters when you choose your next GPU: raw performance to conquer your favorite titles…”

That’s absolutely wrong!!! We want availability at MSRP and MSRPs that reflect the true performance level of the GPU and not how much money you can get.
 
"These aren't just cards; they're your ticket to owning battlegrounds" - even Nvidia couldn't have described the mindset of the present-day gamer better. :rolleyes:
Anyway, cheers for many more years of Linux gaming and open-source technologies! :toast:
 
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