AMD's Radeon Pro Duo Deeply Discounted on Expected Vega Onslaught

[medi01]

Nah, a good 1080 can blow this sideways. Nobody would shell out $800 for Fiji now.

No, not really:

 

[Frick]

I see a lot of posts that states this card is for Pro gamers and so on.
This is not true. All Pro gamers are using top single cards in order to reduce input delay and micro stuttering as much as possible.
As for the Professional use; neh, there are better FireGL or Quatro cards dedicated for that purpose.

People say it's for pro users, not pro gamers, and I'm sure it has its points with the right workloads.

 

[TheDeeGee]

Handy for cold winter days i guess.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

No, not really:

in any game that doesnt support crossfire/SLI, which is a lot of them, the 1080 is going to pull ahead by a significant margin.

Also, I wouldnt spend 800 on a card with only 4GB VRAM.

 

[RejZoR]

I remember the time when I was considering GTX 980 and there was a R9 295X2 for tiny bit more. It's happening again. In a way I regret it a bit for not going with the 295X2. Though I'm not ahuge fan of multi-GPU in general.

 

[pat-roner]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Graphics-cards-best-PassMark-score-5825384

I think thats a good start

Whey they are really excellent at comparing cards though. Not biased in the slightest

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-480-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060

 

[ADHDGAMING]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Graphics-cards-best-PassMark-score-5825384

I think thats a good start

its not a consumer card hence the word "Pro" at the end and all of the constant beating of the " this is for content creators in the VR sector" drum from AMD and all its partners.

 

[Exceededgoku]

I remember the time when I was considering GTX 980 and there was a R9 295X2 for tiny bit more. It's happening again. In a way I regret it a bit for not going with the 295X2. Though I'm not ahuge fan of multi-GPU in general.

I was in the same situation, and ended up buying two. Still happy I did. Crossfire support is pretty impressive now, I very rarely get problems!

 

[Steevo]

Whey they are really excellent at comparing cards though. Not biased in the slightest

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-480-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/RX_480_Gaming_X/23.html

You are so right, paying 40-60 more for 5% more performance...... makes lots of sense.

Current 4GB 480's on Newegg are $189, 3GB 1060's are $200, and the 3GB models are 5-7 SLOWER than a 480.

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_1060_Mini_3_GB/29.html

 

[alucasa]

Hm? I thought this card was equivalent to nvidia quadro line.

If I am correct, why are gaming benchmarks here?

 

[cdawall]

I remember the time when I was considering GTX 980 and there was a R9 295X2 for tiny bit more. It's happening again. In a way I regret it a bit for not going with the 295X2. Though I'm not ahuge fan of multi-GPU in general.

Considering the 290X was competitive with the 980, there would be no gaming scenario that the 295X2 would really loose to the 980...

 

[RejZoR]

That's why I kinda regret it now (a bit). Though, back then it was also an issue of placing a water cooling radiator somewhere. I had a miniATX case back then already occupied with AiO.

 

[eidairaman1]

amd looser ...

ILvvvv= Sore Loser. Go elsewhere troll

 

[GhostRyder]

It is a gamer card and a professional card similar to the Titan series (Or similar to the old Titan series). People seem to forget this card can use the professional drivers as well on this card which is something some people may have an interest in if they want to use it in the professional world. If you can defend the Titan series from Nvidia, you can defend this cards existence as well.

 

[eidairaman1]

It is a gamer card and a professional card similar to the Titan series (Or similar to the old Titan series). People seem to forget this card can use the professional drivers as well on this card which is something some people may have an interest in if they want to use it in the professional world. If you can defend the Titan series from Nvidia, you can defend this cards existence as well.

AMD advertised it for Developers and Gamers so it was a 2 in 1 card (Universal)

 

[geon2k2]

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Graphics-cards-best-PassMark-score-5825384

I think thats a good start

I think you are looking at it in the wrong way.
Professionals don't game on it and raw processing power is much better utilized by professional applications. Also they don't care about micro stuttering so the fact that it is dual-GPU instead of single again it is not very relevant. In fact some of them have farms with multiple such GPUs working together.

From this perspective 16.38 TFLOPS looks much better than the 8 TFLOPS provided by 1080, or 10 TFLOPS provided by Titan X.

For compute nVidia consumer cards were never very strong, they have other qualities like tile rendering which allows them to be very efficient in games and which, only now will be tacked by AMD, with Vega.

 

[Jism]

Whey they are really excellent at comparing cards though. Not biased in the slightest

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-480-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060

GPU boss is a website that compared "theoretical" performance, not real world, k thx.

Hm? I thought this card was equivalent to nvidia quadro line.

If I am correct, why are gaming benchmarks here?

Based upon performance it can be put in the market as a Firepro for "pro's" who develop or create in VR, and need a powerfull sollution. But these chips come from the same fabric making it a dual Fury X basicly on one card.

I dont really call Crossfire to be a POS or having issues such as micro-stuttering. Perhaps it's just me but all the games i played on my previous 270X X2 setup did perfectly fine, no input lag features and all that nonsense.

Currently running a 480X but planning to stick another one in it since i'm heading towards a greater resolution then now (2560x1080).

AMD always had a better theoretical performance when the workload was right compared to nvidia cards. Hence the mining thing where AMD cards had a genuine favour on top of nvidia cards.

 

[Kanan]

Based upon performance it can be put in the market as a Firepro for "pro's" who develop or create in VR, and need a powerfull sollution. But these chips come from the same fabric making it a dual Fury X basicly on one card.

*Dual R9 Nano, not Fury X. It's a 350W TDP card, that's just the double TDP amount of 2x Nano's or even slightly less because it's just one graphics card and saves some power that way. It's just a dual Fury X if you raise its power target and overclock it to at least 1050 MHz, thus making it consume much more power. But with it's beefy 3x 8 Pin PCI-E power cable slots it's able to do that anyway. This is a top notch graphics card quality wise, they didn't save money to build this, that's also why it was priced 1500 bucks at the beginning.

 

[Jism]

R9 Nano and Fury X are technical the same chips. The R9 Nano is rather a binned one, a 'shorter' VRM compared to the Fury X which makes it consume less power compared to the Fury X. The Fury X is just a all-in graphics card with basicly brutal compute power.

 

[Kanan]

R9 Nano and Fury X are technical the same chips. The R9 Nano is rather a binned one, a 'shorter' VRM compared to the Fury X which makes it consume less power compared to the Fury X. The Fury X is just a all-in graphics card with basicly brutal compute power.

I know, and still what you said was simply wrong. It's technically still just a dual R9 Nano graphics card unless you do exactly what I said earlier. Also it's not efficient to do this, so it's simply wrong to state it's a R9 Fury X2. I would never overclock this GPU, it gets highly inefficient then. But with 350W TDP it's very nice graphics card indeed.

 

[Jism]

It's a very solid setup for 4K yes. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_Nano_CrossFire/ , that is if you take the micro-stuttering (if available) for granted.

But personally i dont have any issues with CF and the games i play. It's just as responsive as with a single card in my experience. I dont play games on a regular basis so i'm not missing the last miliseconds in my frametimes or input.

 

[Kanan]

CF is good as long as you play finalized (drivers, game updates) AAA titles. For me it didn't handle well some Indie or F2P titles (such as Path of Exile) and Diablo 3 didn't support CF after a while as well.

Well and as long that's true it's nothing for me, I don't want the fiddling involved with it, after I had my fair share of it. Just too many variables, game support, drivers, amount of video ram, power consumption. It's not worth all the hassle if you ask me. But the Radeon Pro Duo mostly isn't a gamer card anyway, it's more directed towards producing stuff, so who cares.

 

[Totally]

People say it's for pro users, not pro gamers, and I'm sure it has its points with the right workloads.

You can't but help raise an eyebrow whenever they say that pro users may be more demanding but they are not stupid it was much cheaper just two furys and put them in crossfire than throw money at this card. It was overpriced on arrival and still the case with the price cut as there are much better options with an $800 budget.

its not a consumer card hence the word "Pro" at the end and all of the constant beating of the " this is for content creators in the VR sector" drum from AMD and all its partners.

:facepalm: No, just no. You don't know anything and don't have a clue. "Pro" is a throwback from their old naming scheme where it was Pro (Mainstream) < XT(Enthusiast) < XTX (High-end). They stopped using it with the 2900 series and used it internally until Fiji.

 

[Frick]

You can't but help raise an eyebrow whenever they say that pro users may be more demanding but they are stupid it was much cheaper just two furys and put them in crossfire than throw money at this card. It was overpriced on arrival and still the case with the price cut as there are much better options with an $800 budget.

The price was crazy ... but that is true for these kinds of cards (pro). Look at Quadro cards.

 

[Totally]

The price was crazy ... but that is true for these kinds of cards (pro). Look at Quadro cards.

Yeah with Quadro/FirePro aside from the card and specialized drivers, you are paying for dedicated support, garantees (i.e. no bugs and card will work 100% as advertised)

EDIT: just noticed a typo in my earlier post meant to write "they are not" instead of "they are"