AMD's X370 Only Chipset to Support NVIDIA's SLI

[Captain_Tom]

This is nothing new.

I have seen plenty (And owned 1) motherboards that support Crossfire but not SLI. It's just how Nvidia looks at things vs how AMD does. One wants uniformity, and one wants total freedom.

 

[Tartaros]

So i heard that there won't be any X370 Micro ATX boards? Is this true? People are saying that for Micro ATX and ITX there will be the X300 chipset, and if this is true, then i won't be having any of it.

Very very weak those specs.

Depends on board makers. At launch maybe won't be any matx or mitx boards but surely will be later, even if there are few. It's a niche needed to be filled after all.

 

[GLD]

without randoms talking about other's experiences without trying it themselves,

? That includes you as it's cousins rig you were praising, not your own, lol.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

My five cent was that I gave up using RX480 CF.

Not sure how SLi will fair, but the intrinsic problem is the frame pacing, and that will ALWAYS introduce stuttering no matter how it is optimized, or if you have free sync or gsync.

It will never be as smooth as using a single card. My opinion is that, if your game is now playing at 30 fps, getting SLi or CF to have 50-60fps will surely help.

If you have now 45-50 fps, going with dual cards and get 80-90 fps, you might end up having less flurent gameplay.

Every game has vsync what gives, between that and frame pacing I get all games smooth when they've loaded. Xfire or not that's the same.

 

[Fluffmeister]

? That includes you as it's cousins rig you were praising, not your own, lol.

You don't have to own something to experience it, lol.

 

[Grings]

So i heard that there won't be any X370 Micro ATX boards? Is this true? People are saying that for Micro ATX and ITX there will be the X300 chipset, and if this is true, then i won't be having any of it.

Very very weak those specs.

nope
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=871

 

[Dimi]

nope
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=871

TBH that board kinda looks like shit lol, i currently have an Asus Maximus Gene 6 so my standards are pretty high.

Where's the USB Type C connector?

Also, no Intel Ethernet Port = no buy.

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

TBH that board kinda looks like shit lol, i currently have an Asus Maximus Gene 6 so my standards are pretty high.

Where's the USB Type C connector?

Also, no Intel Ethernet Port = no buy.

it has 3.1 not type c.

 

[ShurikN]

TBH that board kinda looks like shit lol, i currently have an Asus Maximus Gene 6 so my standards are pretty high.

Where's the USB Type C connector?

Also, no Intel Ethernet Port = no buy.

That's because it's a GT3, lowest end. Gigabyte have some anounced.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/gigabyte-announces-am4-ryzen-support.html

 

[Unter_Dog]

Do your research, 980's are beast, mention more games than I have that don't play like butter, even more-so with SLI. .

The year is 2017 now, SLI are hugely scalable, no micro stutter whatsoever, it runs remarkably

I run a 5820k and 980 sli. It is not all rainbows and kittens. Going back to single card. Too many headaches to deal with since I have limited time to game. Rather game than fiddle with settings to make a game run.

 

[medi01]

This is nothing new.

I have seen plenty (And owned 1) motherboards that support Crossfire but not SLI. It's just how Nvidia looks at things vs how AMD does. One wants uniformity, and one wants total freedom.

Are you sure it has nothing to do with licensing costs?

 

[john_]

Considering that Nvidia itself is trying to make SLI a premium feature for hi end cards and even limit it to two cards, I see no point in AMD trying to save SLI in Nvidia's place.
And anyway, Crossfire was everywhere all those last years with SLI being more of a premium feature for more expensive boards.
AM4 changed nothing really.

 

[bogami]

Just that it can be used. Well this is new ! https://geizhals.at/?cat=cpuamdam4 and
select .. https://geizhals.at/?cat=mbam4

 

[ixi]

Just that it can be used. Well this is new ! https://geizhals.at/?cat=cpuamdam4 and
select .. https://geizhals.at/?cat=mbam4

Those prices ;/

 

[Relayer]

So now even AMD is getting in on the nVidia tax.

 

[ssdpro]

I think everyone here seems to have missed the real news here: the chipset is all PCIe 2.0. There is no PCIe 3.0 support on any of these chipsets which is very 2012. Based on some motherboard articles released today, it looks like this chart was accurate. If you want your PCIe x4 M.2 drive to work you get one graphics card and the M.2 runs off the other 4 CPU lanes. It looks like the chipset also only supports 4 SATA ports. What is confusing is the * saying if SATA is running you drop to 18 lanes from the CPU. That only leaves x2 for your M.2? Or are 4 SATA ports on the chipset and 2 on the CPU?

One of AMD's biggest plus points was their motherboard design allowing flexible lanes. What is with this cut down stuff?

For anyone wondering what the mainstream Intel Z270 offers for chipset lanes, here you go: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...ram-16x9.png.rendition.intel.web.1072.603.png

 

[bogami]

Those prices ;/

AMD Ryzen 1700X has a very reasonable price . 362€ ,as it is at the level of i76900K 1117€ cheapest .
I hope that you know haw to clock , OC.!

 

[TheLostSwede]

I think everyone here seems to have missed the real news here: the chipset is all PCIe 2.0. There is no PCIe 3.0 support on any of these chipsets which is very 2012. Based on some motherboard articles released today, it looks like this chart was accurate. If you want your PCIe x4 M.2 drive to work you get one graphics card and the M.2 runs off the other 4 CPU lanes. It looks like the chipset also only supports 4 SATA ports. What is confusing is the * saying if SATA is running you drop to 18 lanes from the CPU. That only leaves x2 for your M.2? Or are 4 SATA ports on the chipset and 2 on the CPU?

One of AMD's biggest plus points was their motherboard design allowing flexible lanes. What is with this cut down stuff?

For anyone wondering what the mainstream Intel Z270 offers for chipset lanes, here you go: http://www.intel.com/content/dam/ww...ram-16x9.png.rendition.intel.web.1072.603.png

It's all quite poorly explained and I've seen half a dozen different comparisons which all are wrong to a degree.

For Ryzen CPU's you're looking at a total of 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes. 16 of those are for graphics, 4 of those are connecting to the chipset.
The remaining 4 lanes can be either 1x M.2 (four lanes), 2 SATA ports and 2 PCIe 3.0 lanes, or 2 SATA ports and one M.2 (two lanes).
The CPU's also have support for four USB 3.0 (3.1 G1) ports.

The X370 chipset connects as mentioned with 4 PCIe 3.0 lanes to the CPU. It gives you 8 lanes of PCIe 2.0 which sort of makes sense, as that adds up in terms of the PCIe bandwidth available. However, it also adds 4 SATA ports, 2 SATA Express (why AMD, why???), although if SATA express isn't used, apparently you can then somehow recover 2 PCIe 3.0 lanes, but I have not seen this on any motherboards so far. Then you also get 2 USB 3.1 10Gbps (G2), 6 USB 3.0 (3.1 G1) ports and 6 USB 2.0 ports.
Somehow the X370 chipset also allows the CPU to split the bandwidth for the x16 slot into an 8/8 configuration, much in the same way Intel's Z chipsets allow for this.

What a lot of board makers have done, is add an ASMedia SATA controller for additional SATA ports, especially on the B350 chipset which only supports two SATA ports. If the SATA ports from the CPU are implemented, they're usually disabled if an M.2 drive is inserted into the board, check the motherboard manuals for specific before buying.

 

[Captain_Tom]

Are you sure it has nothing to do with licensing costs?

It does once in a blue moon, but in reality it is usually just the fact that some motherboards only run the second slot at lower speeds like x4 PCIE 2.0.

AMD has never cared what speeds you run your cards at, and in fact I ran a 6950 CF with my second card in a x1 slot. Still worked.

 

[nem..]

Any way gimpnvidia cant support any more sli in mid-range cards aka 1060 .. :/

since cpu coming 24 lanes pcie 3.0 (cause nort bridge are inside of cpu), since suthbrigge coming 8 lanes pcie 2.0 for x370.