American manufacturers

[R-T-B]

Perhaps you/we should distinguish between "American made" as in "built in America with American-made parts and labor" vs. "American-owned/based company who outsources parts & production to Asian/Chinaeese/Japanese companies"

My guess is that the 1st list would be a pretty short one, and the other one much, much longer

You'll be lucky to even populate a list with "built in America from foreign components"

 

[cvaldes]

Perhaps you/we should distinguish between "American made" as in "built in America with American-made parts and labor" vs. "American-owned/based company who outsources parts & production to Asian/Chinaeese/Japanese companies"

My guess is that the 1st list would be a pretty short one, and the other one much, much longer

Look, OP appears to have a clue that most of the manufacturing is taking place in southeast Asia (see his comment in post #11) regardless of where the company is headquartered.

And let's stop criticizing his motives. He's not harming any of you by his intentions and seems to be well aware that it's Chinese, Taiwanese, etc. workers at contract manufacturers who are getting paid to do final assembly. And there's no need to delve into the minutiae of where some PSU capacitor was sourced (Japan, Taiwan, wherever).

The OP thankfully doesn't appear to be interested in getting to some weird dorkwad jihad about this which I'm sure some TPU forum participants will find disappointing.

Returning back to the original topic, there are some additional companies mentioned above.

American companies: Seagate, Western Digital, Supermicro, Patriot, PNY. All of these companies indeed have headquarters in the USA (all from Silicon Valley with the exception of PNY).

Antec was founded in Fremont, California but was acquired by a Taiwanese investor in 2011. It's now a Taiwanese company headquartered in Taipei City and shares of this publicly held company trade on the Taiwanese stock exchange. Let's leave it up to the OP to decide whether or not its American heritage is sufficient to fit his criteria.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Look, OP appears to have a clue that most of the manufacturing is taking place in southeast Asia (see his comment in post #11) regardless of where the company is headquartered.

Glad someone else caught this.

And let's stop criticizing his motives. He's not harming any of you by his intentions and seems to be well aware that it's Chinese, Taiwanese, etc. workers at contract manufacturers who are getting paid to do final assembly. And there's no need to delve into the minutiae of where some PSU capacitor was sourced (Japan, Taiwan, wherever).

The OP thankfully doesn't appear to be interested in getting to some weird dorkwad jihad about this which I'm sure some TPU forum participants will find disappointing.

Returning back to the original topic, there are some additional companies mentioned above.

American companies: Seagate, Western Digital, Supermicro, Patriot, PNY. All of these companies indeed have headquarters in the USA (all from Silicon Valley with the exception of PNY).

Antec was founded in Fremont, California but was acquired by a Taiwanese investor in 2011. It's now a Taiwanese company headquartered in Taipei City and shares of this publicly held company trade on the Taiwanese stock exchange. Let's leave it up to the OP to decide whether or not its American heritage is sufficient to fit his criteria.

Huh; was unaware of Antec's fate. All the way back in '11? Criminy. Perhaps that, in part, is why their last decade worth of products have been... underwhelming, let's say. Guess I should mabye stop holding onto hope that they'll release something genuinely excellent one of these days.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Look, OP appears to have a clue that most of the manufacturing is taking place in southeast Asia (see his comment in post #11) regardless of where the company is headquartered.

And let's stop criticizing his motives. He's not harming any of you by his intentions and seems to be well aware that it's Chinese, Taiwanese, etc. workers at contract manufacturers who are getting paid to do final assembly. And there's no need to delve into the minutiae of where some PSU capacitor was sourced (Japan, Taiwan, wherever).

The OP thankfully doesn't appear to be interested in getting to some weird dorkwad jihad about this which I'm sure some TPU forum participants will find disappointing.

Returning back to the original topic, there are some additional companies mentioned above.

American companies: Seagate, Western Digital, Supermicro, Patriot, PNY. All of these companies indeed have headquarters in the USA (all from Silicon Valley with the exception of PNY).

Antec was founded in Fremont, California but was acquired by a Taiwanese investor in 2011. It's now a Taiwanese company headquartered in Taipei City and shares of this publicly held company trade on the Taiwanese stock exchange. Let's leave it up to the OP to decide whether or not its American heritage is sufficient to fit his criteria.

I was looking at Antec until I remembered they were sold.
Yes you're right I understand it's impossible to have it "Made in America". That's fine. Really as long as the company headquarters is in America that's all I really want. Yes I know evga psus are rebranded. No I'm not trying "feed the economy" or whatever others are thinking lol. I'm building one PC.
Really my biggest hang up right now is finding a cpu air cooler.

 

[Vayra86]

There are only American marketing and management companies. Manufacturing bullshit seems like the primary source of income for them

 

[qubit]

@Upgrayedd why do you not want non American, if you don't mind? For example, the Austrian Noctua make the best coolers. My NH-D14 has been flawless and quiet for the last 11 years and it's been used almost every day.

 

[Selaya]

I was looking at Antec until I remembered they were sold.
Yes you're right I understand it's impossible to have it "Made in America". That's fine. Really as long as the company headquarters is in America that's all I really want. Yes I know evga psus are rebranded. No I'm not trying "feed the economy" or whatever others are thinking lol. I'm building one PC.
Really my biggest hang up right now is finding a cpu air cooler.

depends on the component. micron/crucial memory/ssd is probably a good part made in america since they still have their foundries stateside ... however, they might also have some overseas, and its likely they're doing packaging/pcbs abroad in like, taiwan
but yeah

 

[Upgrayedd]

@Upgrayedd why do you not want non American, if you don't mind? For example, the Austrian Noctua make the best coolers. My NH-D14 has been flawless and quiet for the last 11 years and it's been used almost every day.

I love noctua. I've got a nhd15 in another PC. Nothing against foreign companies I just want USA companies for my next personal build.

depends on the component. micron/crucial memory/ssd is probably a good part made in america since they still have their foundries stateside ... however, they might also have some overseas, and its likely they're doing packaging/pcbs abroad in like, taiwan
but yeah

Yes. That's why I chose crucial. If I wasn't going for USA made I'd look for Samsung B die ram and a Samsung m.2.

 

[sam_86314]

Yes I know evga psus are rebranded.

Pretty much all PSUs from American companies are rebranded.

Some of the major quality PSU manufacturers include Delta, FSP, SeaSonic, Super Flower, and CWT. All of them are based in Taiwan.

EVGA primarily seems to use FSP and SeaSonic, and they used to use Super Flower.

Corsair uses CWT.

@Upgrayedd why do you not want non American, if you don't mind? For example, the Austrian Noctua make the best coolers. My NH-D14 has been flawless and quiet for the last 11 years and it's been used almost every day.

To me, it seems like a fun challenge/experiment. It also got me thinking about where the components in my PC came from.

 

[The red spirit]

There are only American marketing and management companies. Manufacturing bullshit seems like the primary source of income for them

Yeah, basically anyone who becomes famous or whatever is full of shit. It's truly mind-blowing.

For example, the Austrian Noctua make the best coolers.

But they don't.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

For example, the Austrian Noctua make the best coolers,

But they don't.

Cool story, bro.

But seriously, "nuh uh" isn't much of a counterpoint. Leaving aside that "best" is inherently subjective, you could at least say who you think is. Unless you're just trolling, in which case GTFO.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Cool story, bro.

But seriously, "nuh uh" isn't much of a counterpoint. Leaving aside that "best" is inherently subjective, you could at least say who you think is. Unless you're just trolling, in which case GTFO.

Don't. Everybody is welcome. True they didn't say much, just ask them to explain why. Maybe share your view of why you think they're wrong. No need to conflict for nothing.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Don't. Everybody is welcome. True they didn't say much, just ask them to explain why. Maybe share your view of why you think they're wrong. No need to conflict for nothing.

Ok, apologies for the excessive saltiness. Let some unrelated frustrations through, I guess.

Anyway, I'm not saying and don't know if they're wrong, but that some sort of counterpoint would be nice.

 

[qubit]

Cool story, bro.

But seriously, "nuh uh" isn't much of a counterpoint. Leaving aside that "best" is inherently subjective, you could at least say who you think is. Unless you're just trolling, in which case GTFO.

Yes indeed. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, hence I dismiss what he says.

I'm talking from experience and reviews. No idea where he's coming from and I don't care. Even if Noctua are simply "one of" the best coolers, rather than the "best", that's splitting hairs anyway as one won't go wrong buying them. Just don't get one of the yuck brown ones, mkay?

Ok, apologies for the excessive saltiness. Let some unrelated frustrations through, I guess.

Anyway, I'm not saying and don't know if they're wrong, but that some sort of counterpoint would be nice.

Nah, well said.

 

[cvaldes]

The issue with people saying "this is the best" or "no it's not so nyah" is that those people almost never provide any sort of justification for their stances.

Anyone here can click on my System Specs and see what's in one of my builds. I have never claimed that those are the best. They work well enough for me where I didn't return or junk them. That's basically it.

Let's say Person A says "Noctua is the best." Don't think Noctua is the best? That's fine. If Person B thinks something else is, let's see their peer-reviewed comprehensive analysis table of every single valid product in that category and a detailed justification why Person B thinks Product X is "the best." Otherwise Person B's opinion is no better than Person A. In fact, it's actually worse because Person B didn't take the opportunity to back up their statement.

I read reviews because many of those people have tested a wider range of products than I have. In some cases I have zero ability to assess a product category. Power supply units are one. Properly evaluating a PSU requires expensive, highly specialized equipment and substantial knowledge of electrical engineering as well as a lot of time. I don't have those resources at my disposal.

If you want to say "I am happy with my KitchenAid stand mixer/Noctua cooler/Rolex Submariner" that's fine.

An even stupider comment is "____ is overpriced" again without justifying it. How do you measure value of PC fan? CFMs per dollar? That's fine if you don't care about acoustics. Or db(A) per dollar? That's fine but maybe the fan doesn't provide enough cooling power. And the same fan that excels in one usage case might be insufficient for another.

Are you happy with your Casio wristwatch and your cheap Walmart sneakers? Great. They do the same thing as a $200 automatic Seiko Divers Watch and a pair of $500 Italian loafers.

In the end some people use "the best" or "perfect" without understanding that some other people will stupidly take those statements literally. The concept of hyperbole is lost on some. So at least online at places like TPU's Q&A forum, it's safer not to use "perfect" "best" or other superlatives. There are too many idiots around here who are chomping at the bit for some ridiculous dorkwad pissing contest.

And not just here at TechPowerUp. More troubling is the fact is the increase of people who really don't get this and worse don't contribute anything of long-term pedagogical value to the original conversion.

Those people are excellent candidates to put on an ignore list. It really improves the signal-to-noise performance.



Returning back to the original topic, I believe there are some boutique PC case manufacturers that are American. Hyte is one of them, their headquarters is in City of Industry, California.

Solidigm is a new entry to the SSD marketplace. This is the Intel NAND division acquired by SK Hynix. Solidigm is headquartered in San Jose. Are they American? South Korean? Up to OP to decide. They apparently use (formerly) Intel chips.

 

[MarsM4N]

If you want the most "Murican" buy a DELL prebuilt + DELL monitor, DELL keyboard & DELL mouse.
Then slap a glitter murican flag sticker on it. Won't get any more murican than that.

 

[cvaldes]

If you want the most "Murican" buy a DELL prebuilt + DELL monitor, DELL keyboard & DELL mouse.
Then slap a glitter murican flag sticker on it. Won't get any more murican than that.

He knows that can buy a Dell, HP or their respective gaming brands.

That's not what OP was asking. He's taking this DIY build as a challenge/personal project.

In the same way, he can just go to some vegan restaurant and order a vegan burger. Or he can try to make one at home from scratch, including making his own vegan patties and vegan burger buns.

 

[Upgrayedd]

If you want the most "Murican" buy a DELL prebuilt + DELL monitor, DELL keyboard & DELL mouse.
Then slap a glitter murican flag sticker on it. Won't get any more murican than that.

I'd get a monitor.
No prebies from them though. They throw the trashiest mobos and ram in those.

 

[The red spirit]

Cool story, bro.

But seriously, "nuh uh" isn't much of a counterpoint. Leaving aside that "best" is inherently subjective, you could at least say who you think is. Unless you're just trolling, in which case GTFO.

have you ever actually looked at cooler reviews? You can often see Scythe, Thermalright, Deepcool, Cryorig, Alpenfohn, BeQuiet having one of the best coolers. Frankly, making a good cooler is really simple, just make it big and add fast fan and that's it. Noctua is no special there, where Noctua shines is in PR and how premium stuff feels, but their cooler performance is just industry average. Basically for their every products there's either something that matches them, but costs two times less or something that performs better and costs a bit less or the same.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I'd like to find something similar to noctuas 3000rpm fans. I don't think corsair has a similar fan.

I think I might have to comprise on the cpu cooler and case/cpu fans.
I like noctua but I've used them enough. I will consider German brands. BeQuiet! will prob take the cpu cooler.

 

[sam_86314]

I'd like to find something similar to noctuas 3000rpm fans. I don't think corsair has a similar fan.

I think I might have to comprise on the cpu cooler and case/cpu fans.
I like noctua but I've used them enough. I will consider German brands. BeQuiet! will prob take the cpu cooler.

Corsair's 120mm ML fans go up to 2400 RPM.

 

[cvaldes]

I think I might have to comprise on the cpu cooler and case/cpu fans.
I like noctua but I've used them enough. I will consider German brands. BeQuiet! will prob take the cpu cooler.

Opening up to German companies certainly gives you more options.

Arctic sells CPU air coolers and fans. Alphacool also sells fans including some loud high-speed models intended for use in servers and workstations.

Blacknoise is another company that sells fans primarily focused for server use but they do have some consumer oriented models.

Those are a few German companies off the top of my head.

If you widen your scope to the Netherlands, you can include Phanteks as a possible vendor for CPU air coolers, fans, and other components.

 

[R-T-B]

Also, not sure how helpful this is, but if considering a DAC for Audio Schiit is USA built.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Also, not sure how helpful this is, but if considering a DAC for Audio Schiit is USA built.

I'll keep my O2+ODAC.
Peripherals will have to wait until another time lol

 

[R-T-B]

I'll keep my O2+ODAC.
Peripherals will have to wait until another time lol

Fair enough.