And the CPU socket is toasted

[Aquinus]

I asked a colleague of mine who manages a small department server to help test out the CPU. It is one of those dell poweredge slim rack servers that happen to have another empty socket. He also risked big time getting the server offline to test for me. Sadly it would not even power on once we put the 6950X on there. Not even the click on and off looping on consumer motherboards.

Another empty socket? Servers usually have ECC memory and possibly registered memory. The 6950X wouldn't support either of those as it's not a Xeon. Are you sure that it was tested in a platform that is known to work with that CPU because I would expect any i7 in a dual socket motherboard intended for Xeons to fail to boot.

 

[Vayra86]

Yes. Read around the web. They absolutely seem to.

Lol that's reason enough for me to avoid the brand entirely. 'We only provide service if you pay the retarded premium'... dafuq

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Another empty socket? Servers usually have ECC memory and possibly registered memory. The 6950X wouldn't support either of those as it's not a Xeon. Are you sure that it was tested in a platform that is known to work with that CPU because I would expect any i7 in a dual socket motherboard intended for Xeons to fail to boot.

If i am 10 yrs younger and into online debating i would totally try to get my colleague to shut down the rack and snap a picture.

It had two sockets. One of which was populated with a bolted down heatsink. Another was empty 2011-v3 socket. We put that dead 6950x in and put my d15 on top. No power on. Removed the 6950x and power on just fine. That alone is telling something in the CPU has shorted out and the motherboard goes into protection mode without powering on. That was the closest thing to a X99 i can find at this tiny town.

 

[RealNeil]

There are many reasons that your CPU may not work beside a Xeon processor in a dual socket system. The two CPUs may not be compatible together.
The memory's ECC structure may be incompatible with your CPU too.

You should stop plugging that thing in everywhere. If indeed it ~did~ kill your motherboard, why chance wrecking someone else's system?
I would wait for the test CPU and test the new Mainboard first. Go from there.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

It should be more like the ASUS TUF killed the processor, not the other way around. But I agree, not worth damaging other systems now.

 

[RealNeil]

Your system was running good until you introduced that new CPU into the mix,........

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Your system was running good until you introduced that new CPU into the mix,........

Actually it was running good until I started to reinstall OS on the NVME SSD. Would a 960Pro kill both the CPU and MoBo? Or was it Windows 10 that killed all of them. Guess I will never know.

 

[EarthDog]

Neither... vrm sh1t the bed and managed to take the cpu with it.

 

[OneMoar]

a moment of silence for the dead hardware please people

 

[RealNeil]

Okay, now let's find out about the new CPU and if it worked.

Enquiring minds want to know!

 

[Sasqui]

Okay, now let's find out about the new CPU and if it worked.

Enquiring minds want to know!

After following this thread for a while, gotta wonder if there's some nefarious thing going on between as ES and microcode. Just a thought. I'm going to be really surprised if the "loaner" doesn't work... fingers crossed while donning a tinfoil hat.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Upgraded license

Call up the M$ Activation people. and tell them...."I need a license to kill." When they say "what the f**k" then you come with the "oh sorry, I meant i need my license reactivating" then mumble "shaken, not stirred" down the phone hoping they'll hear you and hang up because your crazy.

 

[Durvelle27]

Any updates on the system

 

[Sasqui]

Here's a post from @cadaveca 2+ years ago regarding ES chips... timebomb?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/advise-for-against-engineering-sample-cpu.217577/

I have many ES CPUs in my possession. My recommendation? Don't buy it. For one, you are then a participant in an illegal act (I'm not sure why anyone with an ES CPU would sell it, that in and of itself is pretty fishy since they signed a fairly tight contract in order to get it, and if found out, will likely never see another chip again),

Secondly, these chips are likely to be abused while also NOT being some of the best chips ever, contrary to popular belief. ES CPUs are typically just the same as any other chip. I have 3x 4960X, and of the three, only one was "good", and the best it can do is 4.5 GHz (pretty average). Intel sends out chips that are good and bad, and average, since those that get ES chips do need to be aware of how these chips might work in general, and only select reviewers are likely to get good chips (those that benchmark). Meanwhile, I am pretty sure that using an ES chip to post benchmarks on HWBOT puts you outside of the general user category.

For my third reason why, it's pretty simple. ES chips tend to degrade quickly. It is like there is some sort of timer on them, and after so many hours, they start to fail, then clock worse, then don't work at all, and I have had this happen to many ES CPUs over the years.

As a person that has some access to ES CPUs, it truly saddens me to even see this type of subject come up. Someone out there doesn't value their job, and the reason why has me quite worried. It is possible this chip was given to someone who did not sign contracts with Intel, and the seller may get whomever gave them the chip into a whole lot of trouble... like career-ending trouble.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Any updates on the system

Nope. Not sure if @cadaveca has managed to send the testing CPU as he some sort of terrorist attack happened near him over Canada.

As for ASUS, they have been giving me the run arounds. ROG forum admin didn't say whether they will cover the CPU loss or not, only stating I need to contact local center. Meanwhile the online chatting agent has been acting like idiots:

Me: The system got stuck in an infinite boot looping
Agent: Where on the windows screen does it show "Stuck in infinite looping"?
Me: ??? No it doesn't even enter BIOS!
Agent: Have you tried Control-Alt-Del?
Me: (1000 * WTF)
Agent: Hello sir? Have you tried reset the Clear CMOS jumper?


And this happens every single day I talk to them.

So long story short: ASUS seems want to shovel this away as hard as they can.

Here's a post from @cadaveca 2+ years ago regarding ES chips... timebomb?

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/advise-for-against-engineering-sample-cpu.217577/

Well damn....

ES Chips degrades faster? Where was I during that thread? If I saw that before I made purchase....

 

[newtekie1]

It had two sockets. One of which was populated with a bolted down heatsink. Another was empty 2011-v3 socket. We put that dead 6950x in and put my d15 on top. No power on. Removed the 6950x and power on just fine. That alone is telling something in the CPU has shorted out and the motherboard goes into protection mode without powering on. That was the closest thing to a X99 i can find at this tiny town.

This isn't going to work at all, which explains why it didn't work. First, dual-socket machines require the CPU in both sockets to be identical. Second, the 6950X doesn't have the correct connections to work with a dual-socket system. Dual-socket Xeons have an extra QPI link that allows the two CPU to directly communicate with eachother. Desktop processors only have one QPI link. On a desktop(X99) motherboard, the 2011-v3 socket has unused pins that on a server/Xeon are used for these extra QPI links. So putting a desktop processor in a dual-socket server motherboard won't work.

Neither... vrm sh1t the bed and managed to take the cpu with it.

Yep, the VRM went short, sent 12v directly into the CPU, and killed the VRM built into the processor. Seen it happen a lot. Usually on machines that are just sitting idle, too. But it can really happen at any time.

I doubt it is a timebomb on the ES CPU. However, I guess it could be that the VRM circuit on the CPU is what died first and it killed the motherboard VRM.

 

[eidairaman1]

Nope. Not sure if @cadaveca has managed to send the testing CPU as he some sort of terrorist attack happened near him over Canada.

As for ASUS, they have been giving me the run arounds. ROG forum admin didn't say whether they will cover the CPU loss or not, only stating I need to contact local center. Meanwhile the online chatting agent has been acting like idiots:

Me: The system got stuck in an infinite boot looping
Agent: Where on the windows screen does it show "Stuck in infinite looping"?
Me: ??? No it doesn't even enter BIOS!
Agent: Have you tried Control-Alt-Del?
Me: (1000 * WTF)
Agent: Hello sir? Have you tried reset the Clear CMOS jumper?


And this happens every single day I talk to them.

So long story short: ASUS seems want to shovel this away as hard as they can.






Well damn....

ES Chips degrades faster? Where was I during that thread? If I saw that before I made purchase....

Because everyone is pooled into bottom level support, it is only when you tell them specifically everything you have tried does not work then they either move you to a higher tech or give you an RMA authorization

 

[OneMoar]

this is why I have the policy of tell them only what they need to hear.
don't give them anymore information then what is required that includes don't tell them you where running a es cpu don't tell them you where overclocking at 1.4v don't tell them your cat peed on it

you need to remember that support agents are generally minimum wage retards

this is what I always tell them when I rma something
it stopped working one day. thats it

 

[eidairaman1]

this is why I have the policy of tell them only what they need to hear.
don't give them anymore information then what is required that includes don't tell them you where running a es cpu don't tell them you where overclocking at 1.4v don't tell them your cat peed on it

you need to remember that support agents are generally minimum wage retards

this is what I always tell them when I rma something
it stopped working one day. thats it

Don't forget we are dealing with major language barriers with most places too...

 

[OneMoar]

he got him self into trouble by telling the truth

never ever ever tell a rma dept the truth

the warranty is writen in such a way that pretty much anything can be used as a reason to reject a rma

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Just to clarify i am not denied another RMA. Waiting for testing CPUs to check out this replacement board first.

If the testing CPU doesn't work i will be pressing ASUS for a new board.

As for my current communication with ASUS i am probing to see whether ASUS would cover the CPU cost.

 

[Toothless]

OP is denied sanity.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Testing CPU incoming from cadaveca, also huge thanks to @Norton for sending me D15 mounting for 2011!!

One way or another I will get this system fixed.

 

[eidairaman1]

Just to clarify i am not denied another RMA. Waiting for testing CPUs to check out this replacement board first.

If the testing CPU doesn't work i will be pressing ASUS for a new board.

As for my current communication with ASUS i am probing to see whether ASUS would cover the CPU cost.

Goodluck with that.

Atleast you get the board, now i'd probe intel for a chip

 

[Sasqui]

Testing CPU incoming from cadaveca, also huge thanks to @Norton for sending me D15 mounting for 2011!!

One way or another I will get this system fixed.

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Pay it forward when you can!