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Production Run!

Just got off the phone with Virginia Industrial Plastics...talk about a wet dream...6 axis 5 axis and three axis routers, laser cutter and etching, vacuum forming of almost any kind of plastic.

And the owner is a VIR racing his motorcycle today :)

My kind of hook up. He was an instructor at Cornerspeed.net and we talked about getting me going on some trackdays...

So what I am going to do is make up some drawings and cut up the parts and label them and drive over to Elkton and talk with them in person and get a quote so I can see if this is feasible.

I'll design it so the height is easy to change and the internal parts are all the same dimensions and make up sets for 2, 3 and 4 bay units.

More on this as I progress.
 

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:toast: well done CD, that's actually really impressive news :)
Got my eye on a three bay ;D
 

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I might try and make one. My problem is that a meanwell, rad, res, dvd-rom must all fit in one area. This is my idea




Good bad?


I'll split the lines into 2 after the pump.
 
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dude i got no idea whats going on in that picture

I was going to say the same thing, but I didn't want to be mean :eek:
 

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Ok in my bay area, I have a radiator there. A DVD ROM and 1 5 1/4 fit right into it with no room to spare. I was wondering if I could do this but have the bottom not take all of the space in the back that his has so my radiator would still fit where it goes.


The red is the in flow and the blue is the out flow. It would have to come up in a space between where the two goes into a cut out more or less.

Does it make sense now?
 
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Use Google Sketchup and draw everything to exact scale. That's the best suggestion I have for you.

What's the thing in the picture that looks like glasses on a blue-nosed red-eyed guy? :eek:
 

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does this cool the water like with the bong cooling effect?
 

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Ok in my bay area, I have a radiator there. A DVD ROM and 1 5 1/4 fit right into it with no room to spare. I was wondering if I could do this but have the bottom not take all of the space in the back that his has so my radiator would still fit where it goes.


The red is the in flow and the blue is the out flow. It would have to come up in a space between where the two goes into a cut out more or less.

Does it make sense now?

it always made sense to me Damulta, must have something to do with visualization :p

@ cyberdruid : more youtubage! :respect:

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i was talking about this...: http://reference.techpowerup.com/Bong_cooling not bong cooling as in getting some weed and :pimp:

cause its got the waterfall and its got the water condensing all over the glass and im thinking that it might be a performance enhancement based on the bong cooling ideology cause you've got the hotter water molecules evaporating and and then later condensing on the glass while the cooler molecules run in the closed system loop. however, im wondering if that if the effect is there, maybe a small hole with a filter on top where the water doesn't go might do some good? it would let the water vapor escape while keeping out dust and other contaminates and keep the system still mostly a closed system. of course the reservoris are quite large and so water for the bong cooling effect wouldn't need to be replaced so much you know. just a thought.
 
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lol

Well more youtubage will have to come from more reservoirs...'cause that on is in the mail to Kenny.
 
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i was talking about this...: http://reference.techpowerup.com/Bong_cooling not bong cooling as in getting some weed and :pimp:

cause its got the waterfall and its got the water condensing all over the glass and im thinking that it might be a performance enhancement based on the bong cooling ideology cause you've got the hotter water molecules evaporating and and then later condensing on the glass while the cooler molecules run in the closed system loop. however, im wondering if that if the effect is there, maybe a small hole with a filter on top where the water doesn't go might do some good? it would let the water vapor escape while keeping out dust and other contaminates and keep the system still mostly a closed system. of course the radiators are quite large and so water for the bong cooling effect wouldn't need to be replaced so much you know. just a thought.

It might. Interesting idea...
 

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Use Google Sketchup and draw everything to exact scale. That's the best suggestion I have for you.

What's the thing in the picture that looks like glasses on a blue-nosed red-eyed guy? :eek:

where the hoses comes in and out, the red is in, the blue is out.
 
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And the optical drive is above all that?
 

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Here is what the last one looked like...






thats classic bong cooling! the waterfall is producing the bong cooling effect, and you can see the water evaporating and rising rapidly through the water and looking for a place to escape at the top, and then you can see it recondensing, to become hot water that just dropped under 100C, if you let the water vapor escape, you'd loose much of the heat contained the water, as the hotter molecules will become even hotter with the many waterfalls making the number of collisions higher in the water (thus causing high temps) and giving it more surface area, so that you get more evaporation etc. and then you have the water vapor escaping through the top of the res while you're left with cooler water molecules at the bottom. the res's are preety big and would be able to go for a while, this likes a sweet method of bong cooling in a box and could really help ocers if it ever works!
 

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I got you panch. So in theory it would take a smaller rad to cool down the water thats in the loop.
 

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I got you panch. So in theory it would take a smaller rad to cool down the water thats in the loop.

wikipedia: "A bong cooler can be a replacement for the radiator in a watercooled computer. The sub-ambient temperatures that are achieved in the bong cooler are more effective at cooling than the above ambient water temperature in a radiator"

tpu wiki: "Bong cooling is much more effective than radiators for removing large volumes of heat from water, which makes it especially suited for use with TEC loops. The increased performance allows more powerful pumps to be used."

and if this is small-bong-cooling-in-a-box, it may just become a cooling revolution, might make loops that require 360 rads to only require 120 or 240.. looks mad effective form the pics, and we could always add more waterfalls to really make this more effective and if it works...
 

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There is one factor of Bong Cooling you overlooked. You MUST have a fan or a very long fall... And you must have an open system...no such thing as a closed loop bong cooler: the cooling is all from Evap. Conservation of energy and all that...you will need to introduce the cooling element: which can be fresh air the water falls through (5 feet minimum) or a fan blowing fresh air into the fall or both.

That and a horde of Frat Boys crashing into your room...looking for the bong...
 

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well like i said, add a hole at the top for the air to escape and you can always mount a fan there, as for the drop... the falls appear to simulate the atomization of it sort of you know.
 

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True dat...but some sort of baffle is required to prevent any splashing on your PC lol and evap will mean topping up the system daily...
 
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Not to mention the possibility of condensation forming on other parts...

Internal bong = bad idea. External? Great.
 
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I really like the all blue water fall! Looks like a ton of frustration to put together.... makes me want to go back to w/c.
 

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danish, thats true, dont want to release the condensation inside of the cause, but im sure we could make a thing that'd let it exhaust outside, or use the top case fan as the exhaust for the res, etc thats for later lol, first this has to work :p

@ cyber, how would the water reach a hole by one of the corners on the top of the res?
 
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