Anyone with true HDDs still around here?

lexluthermiester · Friday at 4:52 PM

SPDIF said:
Sure i still use HDD, even old ones like this one from Samsung 26 years old!!! Stil working, no bad sector's. I use it to backup my games...

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Or this one from WD, spins at10.000 rpm, named Raptor, later names Velociraptor.

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And for someone that want to see the very different backside of that Samsung HDD... Unbelievable that they could make this so complicated already...

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I've had both of those drives! For each in their time, they were nice. The Raptor is still usable to this day. Do you keep that Samsung drive around for a retro build or just because?

Hankieroseman · Friday at 5:27 PM

Only as storage and backups. All my computers run on M.2 disks. Seagate FireCuda's have been reliable 520's to 540. Testing a new T705 now.

SPDIF · Friday at 5:42 PM

lexluthermiester said:
I've had both of those drives! For each in their time, they were nice. The Raptor is still usable to this day. Do you keep that Samsung drive around for a retro build or just because?

For both of it, i use it in an older retro build with Win98 and a Pentium 2. I have many old stuff lying around, and if it still works i don't want to abandon it.
For that time, it was really amazing technology... Really brings a tear in the eye to see it's still alive and kicking. I always take good care for my stuff.

The WD Raptor wasn't working anymore, i removed the PCB carefully and some contacts where oxidized, i cleaned them with a pencil gum, IPA and then a little WD40. It came back to life!
And no bad sector's! Man i have many old stuff, i should make pics from it, not to be forgotten.

But that electronics on the Samsung HDD, it's really amazing tech for that time. So complicated!

Ruru · Friday at 5:44 PM

SPDIF said:
But that electronics on the Samsung HDD, it's really amazing for that time. So complicated!

Samsungs were my favourites. Sucks that they sold their HDD business so WD became my top choice for HDDs after that.

SPDIF · Friday at 5:50 PM

I am always happy when i see that old stuff still working and doing what it should do. I can't describe it, some sort of happy feeling inside when you see it's working good, looking closely and listening how it spins up.

lexluthermiester · Friday at 6:30 PM

SPDIF said:
The WD Raptor wasn't working anymore, i removed the PCB carefully and some contacts where oxidized, i cleaned them with a pencil gum, IPA and then a little WD40. It came back to life!
And no bad sector's! Man i have many old stuff, i should make pics from it, not to be forgotten.

Nice! Well done eh!

SPDIF said:
But that electronics on the Samsung HDD, it's really amazing tech for that time. So complicated!

What's even more amazing is that now all of those electronics have been shrunk down into a single IC die. Let that sink in. It's freaky amazing and SSD's take that to the next few levels.

Dr. Dro · Friday at 7:22 PM

Ruru said:
Samsungs were my favourites. Sucks that they sold their HDD business so WD became my top choice for HDDs after that.

Very reliable too. 14 year old HD103SJ and 13 year old HD154UI - both error free and in constant use since

Ruru · Friday at 9:10 PM

Dr. Dro said:
Very reliable too. 14 year old HD103SJ and 13 year old HD154UI - both error free and in constant use since

I still have working Spinpoint 80GB and 160GB ones. Actually the latter P80 drive is my favourite when I put a retro system together.

QuietBob · Friday at 10:16 PM

This 2.5" 20 GB Fujitsu drive from 2007 used to fit a regular 64-bit Win7 installation, just barely. I migrated it to the 80 GB PATA Samsung SpinPoint from 2003 to be able to install more software in one of my retro systems. Both work fine:

RJARRRPCGP · Saturday at 1:38 AM

Ruru said:
I still have working Spinpoint 80GB and 160GB ones. Actually the latter P80 drive is my favourite when I put a retro system together.

Did the SMART go bonkers on the 80 GB one? I suspect a firmware bug that causes the SMART to go bonkers on the SP0802N, especially. (SMART attribute randomly goes to an insanely low value and causes the BIOS to give a warning) Especially, if the BIOS randomly gives an SMART warning on reboot! Saw that with a mid-2000s SP0802N. (IIRC, I think that's the model of the 80 GB SpinPoint I came across)

Hankieroseman · Saturday at 1:51 AM

SPDIF said:
I am always happy when i see that old stuff still working and doing what it should do. I can't describe it, some sort of happy feeling inside when you see it's working good, looking closely and listening how it spins up.

I've got an old Cooler Master Praetorian Aluminum
/Removable tray/2002-with a scavenged ASUS PC mobo and i7 that was working well. Got demoted to the closet.

System Name	1.EXTREME-FLIGHT SIM//2.LIAN-LI/HOME
Processor	1.AMD RYZEN 7 9800X3D 4.7GHZ 8-core 120W
Motherboard	1.ASUS ROG X670E Crosshair EXTREME BIOS V.2403
Cooling	1.be quiet! Silent Loop 2 360MM
Memory	1.G. SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32MBx2 DDR5-6000 CL32/EXPOⅡ
Video Card(s)	1. ASUS ROG Strix RTX4090 O24
Storage	1.2TB CRUCIAL T705 M.2, 4TB Seagate FireCuda 3.5"x7200rpm
Display(s)	1.Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 57" 5120x1440 120Hz DP2.1
Case	1.be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev.2
Audio Device(s)	1.ROG SupremeFX ALC4082
Power Supply	1.be quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 1500W
Mouse	1.LOGITECH Pro Superlight2
Keyboard	1.CORSAIR K100 AIR
Software	1.WINDOWS 11 x64 PRO 23H2, MSFS2020, DCS

System Name	Prometheus
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme
Cooling	AIO Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360
Memory	32GB DDR5
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 OC Edition 12GB
Storage	Samsung 970PRO 2TB, Samsung 990PRO 4TB, WD SN850X 2TB, Samsung 980PRO 2TB. WD GOLD HDD 8TB
Display(s)	Corsair XENEON 32UHD144 32" 4K UHD gaming monitor
Case	Cooler Master HAF
Audio Device(s)	Creative Sound Blaster AE7 + Logitech Z-5500 500W 5.1.
Power Supply	Corsair AX850 Titanium.
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard	Corsair K95 RGB
Software	W10-11 Enterprise- Linux Mint 22.0 Cinnamon Edition.

System Name	4K-gaming / media-PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-6700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Asus Z170-A
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 50 / Thermaltake Contac 21
Memory	32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 10GB / RX 6700 XT
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Power Supply	EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse	Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s
Keyboard	Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD	Oculus Rift CV1
Software	Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
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System Name	Prometheus
Processor	AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme
Cooling	AIO Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360
Memory	32GB DDR5
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 OC Edition 12GB
Storage	Samsung 970PRO 2TB, Samsung 990PRO 4TB, WD SN850X 2TB, Samsung 980PRO 2TB. WD GOLD HDD 8TB
Display(s)	Corsair XENEON 32UHD144 32" 4K UHD gaming monitor
Case	Cooler Master HAF
Audio Device(s)	Creative Sound Blaster AE7 + Logitech Z-5500 500W 5.1.
Power Supply	Corsair AX850 Titanium.
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard	Corsair K95 RGB
Software	W10-11 Enterprise- Linux Mint 22.0 Cinnamon Edition.

System Name	"Icy Resurrection"
Processor	13th Gen Intel Core i9-13900KS Special Edition
Motherboard	ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE
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Memory	32 GB G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB F5-6800J3445G16GX2-TZ5RK @ 7600 MT/s 36-44-44-52-96 1.4V
Video Card(s)	ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX™ 4080 16GB GDDR6X White OC Edition
Storage	500 GB WD Black SN750 SE NVMe SSD + 4 TB WD Red Plus WD40EFPX HDD
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Case	Pichau Mancer CV500 White Edition
Power Supply	EVGA 1300 G2 1.3kW 80+ Gold
Mouse	Microsoft Classic Intellimouse
Keyboard	Generic PS/2
Software	Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC 24H2
Benchmark Scores	I pulled a Qiqi~

Anyone with true HDDs still around here?

lexluthermiester

Hankieroseman

SPDIF

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

SPDIF

lexluthermiester

Dr. Dro

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.

QuietBob

RJARRRPCGP

Hankieroseman

Processor	5800X3D -30 CO
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Storage	1TB WD SN850X + 1TB ADATA SX8200 Pro
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