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Apple Announces the 2021 iMac, Powered by M1 Chip, Featuring 4.5K Retina Display

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Also 2 USB ports and an ethernet port is worth about $10. Any $50 motherboard already has them for free. Apple is charging for something you used to get for nothing.
Now now, no need to be like that. Apple charges a fair Apple price for Apple designed Ethernet and USB ports. These are not the same kind of ports you get on a $50 motherboard.
 
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I would like to see M1X model with the larger screen and better performance... I may bite then. For now, I can't understand why anyone wouldn't just buy the Mac Mini with the M1, same performance and pair your own monitor. Unless you are a consumer who desires an all in one solution, like a school etc...
 
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Edit: is that a headphone jack? Why? I'm so confused...
the new macs is too thin the 3.5 jack is longer, personally its best on the side so I don't have reach in the back.
 
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I think you underestimated the GPU in the M1 chip. There are reviews out there where it is capable of gaming at 1080p on games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider. In games that it can run, it is possible to get close to a dedicated card, and easily outpacing the Vega 8 and Xe graphics. You can see the bench results as well as Rise of the Tomb Raider being tested on 1080p on high graphic setting running with extra overhead from Rosetta 2 since this is not M1 optimised.



I don't know if 1 extra GPU core is worth the 200 bucks with say an 8GB RAM upgrade or storage upgrade. Haha. Its an added incentive if one decides to upgrade RAM or storage.
That's a fair bit misleading. All those windows machines are laptops, not a desktop, and the mobile versions of GPUs are slower then their desktop counterparts. The 560x in that comparison chart is a 14nm part, and it doesnt list wether it is the 1024 or 986 core model. Same with the 1650 mobile there, a 14nm part. AND the M1 is equipped with 4266 mhz memory, compared to the 3200 mhz used with integrated vega GPUs with ryzen 4000/5000 mobile.

The M1 is built on TSMC 5nm, a node that's ahead of even the RTX 3000 series. It's an apples and potatoes comparison.
 
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Yeah I'd like 10 percent higher clocks and a doubling of the GPU. I still have a little hope, but this iMac kind of killed all my enthusiasm. If Apple makes billions of dollars selling 256GB machines without ethernet ports, why make a better machine reasonably priced... 27", 120hz, double the GPU, keep the price under $1800 USD (like the old 27" iMac) and I might still be interested.
I can see all those things coming, but it might be 2-3 generations down the road. Apple is very incremental with each generation.

Now now, no need to be like that. Apple charges a fair Apple price for Apple designed Ethernet and USB ports. These are not the same kind of ports you get on a $50 motherboard.
I do like the concept of where they put that port. The iMac loses a lot of the clean look with extra cables and cords out the back, so putting the ethernet jack on the AC adapter is a good idea. It should maybe not cost extra though, but that's not how Apple do.
 
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Apple same old story everytime. Cut things like LAN and usb ports to make it look more pretty and sell it too you. Face it new Imacs nothing more than a laptop with a desktop monitor. The old days of apple I liked you could upgrade components inside them. Now nothing at all. They make there computers so un repairable. But that what they want lots and lots of e-waste. As I'm typing this one my old PC from the year 2000 running unix and still working 21 years later. Yes I had to replace the power supply twice and the hard drive once and I upgraded the ram a few times but still the same Asus P5B. Heck this computer is as old as one of my cars which is still running today.
 
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Apple same old story everytime. Cut things like LAN and usb ports to make it look more pretty and sell it too you. Face it new Imacs nothing more than a laptop with a desktop monitor. The old days of apple I liked you could upgrade components inside them. Now nothing at all. They make there computers so un repairable. But that what they want lots and lots of e-waste. As I'm typing this one my old PC from the year 2000 running unix and still working 21 years later. Yes I had to replace the power supply twice and the hard drive once and I upgraded the ram a few times but still the same Asus P5B. Heck this computer is as old as one of my cars which is still running today.
Deliberate strategy IMO. Apple is leading the charge against right to repair in the US, so I suspect they've said well let's just make the stuff unrepairable in the first place and then it won't matter one bit. I will never buy a Mac computer, absurd prices, quality not warranting such high prices, locked down configurations with no upgrade path and lacking enough ports.
 
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Deliberate strategy IMO. Apple is leading the charge against right to repair in the US, so I suspect they've said well let's just make the stuff unrepairable in the first place and then it won't matter one bit. I will never buy a Mac computer, absurd prices, quality not warranting such high prices, locked down configurations with no upgrade path and lacking enough ports.
seems to be messing the whole point, your not only buying the hardware your buying the Apple eco system everything is integrated so well. If your into apple wall garden its great if not you'd hate it.
 

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Can the M1 chip play world of warcraft at 60 fps 1440p?
 
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Can the M1 chip play world of warcraft at 60 fps 1440p?
There are videos on YouTube displaying performance metrics for WoW on M1. I think WoW is a native M1 game, rather than rosetta translation layer.
 
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