ASRock Arc B570 Challenger OC

[starfals]

Decent card, 1 or 2 years too late. Now its pointless, even if the price is good. I guess 5060 will be more expensive... but also probably faster. AMD is coming out with their budget stuff to. So funny how both AMD and Intel are late to the party. Nvidia is literally killing them. If they were to sell their next gen stuff months/1 year earlier... perhaps they would have won a lot more market share. Having their new stuff right next to Nvidia, the kings of GPUs... bad call. I suppose they are releasing them as fast as they can, but its not good enough. It just isnt.

Oh well, 4070 ti super is 1100 euro here, i cant wait for 5070 ti. It probably wont be cheaper. Even the Intel budgety stuff that are 200, sell for like 400-500 here. Gotta love that 20% tax. It makes stuff double the price.

P.s. The GPU market is in a really bad spot, if you aint rich. New generations, same old performance... newer higher prices... less VRAM. Its a mess. I wont even mention the shortages that still exist from time to time.

The B570 is priced way too close to the B580 IMO. Might as well just skip a sandwich and fork out a bit more for the B580.

Yeah, thats the 1 thing i thought too. If you are getting a card, better futureproof a little and go for the slightly more expensive 1. Its faster than 570, and it has almost the same fps difference like the 4080-5080. 15-30% depending on the game. Its totally worth the extra bucks.

 

[JustBenching]

It needs to be tested in a rig with a CPU that would go with a $230 graphics card... I doubt there's a going to be a single rig in the real world using a 9800x3d with this card...

Performance will be totally different (much worse?) with a much weaker CPU? which is how the card will actually be used 99.999% of the time.

I doubt there would be any performance issues with eg 13400 or something similar.

 

[_roman_]

Very disappointing.

 

[BSim500]

Europe. Like with the B580, outside the US the nvidia cards are not more expensive. In any case, is it worth saving a small amount of money to buy a card which has hit and miss drivers, when the nvidia ones will be guaranteed to work with any game. Seems penny wise, pound foolish to me. (Not to mention the terrible idle power consumption.)

It's definitely an issue I've seen on US-centric websites. "Buy Intel it's masssively cheaper". (Looks at local pricing : Arc B570 = £254 vs RTX 4060 = £259 vs Arc B580 = £274). I mean, there's barely £5 premium for a GPU that doesn't completely fall apart if you pair with a (likely matching) low-end CPU or disable resizeable BAR, has much better driver control (like being able to force on MSAA / VSync, etc, in the driver for older games vs Intel Control Panel's usual primitive "Off vs Application Control" only options). There's a hell of lot of real-world issues for thousands of older games no-one wants to talk about, eg, anti-aliasing doesn't work in original Bioshock (but does on nVidia), missing textures in Bioshock Infinite but only for Intel, glitched water rendering in Dirt Rally but only for Intel, having to "wrap" / emulate all older DX9 games to DX12 because of lack of hardware support (that AMD / nVidia still natively retain), years worth of driver-level bug fixes / tweaks for older games in AMD / nVidia drivers are missing in Intel's. If you replay a lot of older games, the savings are a false economy once you start running into more frustrations that those who benchmark only the same dozen or so DX12 games over & over remain in blissful ignorance of...

 

[lexluthermiester]

RDNA4 may have something to say about this price point...

Maybe, but not any more or less than RTX5000. We'll see what the price points are..

 

[Hakker]

No support for DLSS (yes I know it's an NV exclusive, still doesn't change the fact that you can have it on one option and not on others)

seriously W1zzard stop the gaslighting. Go bug Nvidia with it not your sites visitors
You don't go look for an apartment and then complain it doesn't have a personal pool.

That said my main gripe it the absolute horrible idle power usage with Intel cards. They really should fix that.

 

[bug]

Maybe, but not any more or less than RTX5000. We'll see what the price points are..

Definitely more than Blackwell. Nvidia forgot about sub-$300 years ago, AMD is the one that says it's going for the mid-range. And below, presumably.

 

[Dirtdog]

seriously W1zzard stop the gaslighting. Go bug Nvidia with it not your sites visitors
You don't go look for an apartment and then complain it doesn't have a personal pool.

That said my main gripe it the absolute horrible idle power usage with Intel cards. They really should fix that.

This is more like two cars that cost almost the same but one has air conditioning and power steering, the other has neither - but it's slightly cheaper. Which do you buy?