ASUS Announces Dual GeForce RTX 4060 Ti SSD Graphics Card

[Xaled]

Hi,
Not sure I see how the fans cool the m.2 unless they have holes through the board so air can flow through/ hit the m.2
Seems more likely the front fans of the case has a better shot at flowing across the gpu backplate.

it seems that there is a hole in the PCB and it is just under the heatsink/radiator.

Full pictures are already available here:

ASUS Reveals A GeForce RTX 4060 Ti GPU Concept With A Built-In M.2 Slot For SSDs

ASUS has shown off a new hybrid graphics accelerator and storage PCIe Gen4 card on China’s equivalent of YouTube, Bilibili.

hothardware.com

Edit: although it is not exactly the same

 

[natr0n]

Genius idea/concept with the m2 slot.

 

[Kapone33]

it seems that there is a hole in the PCB and it is just under the heatsink/radiator.

Full pictures are already available here:

ASUS Reveals A GeForce RTX 4060 Ti GPU Concept With A Built-In M.2 Slot For SSDs

ASUS has shown off a new hybrid graphics accelerator and storage PCIe Gen4 card on China’s equivalent of YouTube, Bilibili.

hothardware.com

Edit: although it is not exactly the same

All NVME drives produce heat. I would love to see what kind of thermals there would be if this is used as an OS drive.

 

[Xaled]

All NVME drives produce heat. I would love to see what kind of thermals there would be if this is used as an OS drive.

Yeah they produce heat but they are tiny when compared to the GFX board. I dont believe they'll have a considerable impact

 

[MarsM4N]

it seems that there is a hole in the PCB and it is just under the heatsink/radiator.

Edit: although it is not exactly the same

It's absolutely not the same. Guesstimate the pictured card was a concept prototype, based on the articles date. The release model seems to have no cover/heatsink, the SSD just sits on the card.

All NVME drives produce heat. I would love to see what kind of thermals there would be if this is used as an OS drive.

Considering that the GPU is the main heat emitter in a PC, it's likely the SSD will be a little warmer. But since Nvidia's board is super tiny and sits on the other end of the card it shouldn't be too dramatic. On the flip side, the SSD should get a better air flow in that place. Wanna see some pictures with heatsink'd SSD's installed on the back. This is going to look super "Frankenstein", lol.

 

[Kapone33]

It's absolutely not the same. Guesstimate the pictured card was a concept prototype, based on the articles date. The release model seems to have no cover/heatsink, the SSD just sits on the card.


Considering that the GPU is the main heat emitter in a PC, it's likely the SSD will be a little warmer. But since Nvidia's board is super tiny and sits on the other end of the card it shouldn't be too dramatic. On the flip side, the SSD should get a better air flow in that place. Wanna see some pictures with heatsink'd SSD's installed on the back. This is going to look super "Frankenstein", lol.

LOL Even if they have it cooling with the GPU fans, for me it will still blow hot air into the fins of an Air cooler.

 

[Dr. Dro]

This will need the mobo bios to support pcie bifurcation to do anything - that's an extra step for users, and an easy reason for Customer Services to get a call for it not working

The vast majority of modern motherboards support PCIe bifurcation. Basically if you got a good B550 or anything newer (which you should, considered this is an Ada card), you're golden.

If your computer is older and/or you know it doesn't, there are other products in the market that will satisfy your needs

 

[Steevo]

Cough..... https://www.anandtech.com/show/10518/amd-announces-radeon-pro-ssg-fiji-with-m2-ssds-onboard 2016....

 

[Kapone33]

Cough..... https://www.anandtech.com/show/10518/amd-announces-radeon-pro-ssg-fiji-with-m2-ssds-onboard 2016....

I guess there is a reason it never caught on lol

 

[Vya Domus]

The back of most cards run really hot, I have a watercooled card and the backplate still gets too hot to even touch I really can't see how that drive wont get excessively hot even idling.

 

[Steevo]

The back of most cards run really hot, I have a watercooled card and the backplate still gets too hot to even touch I really can't see how that drive wont get excessively hot even idling

Not a full coverage block?

 

[Vya Domus]

Not a full coverage block?

It's full coverage, the backplate has a lot of thermals pads so a lot of heat gets transferred, the point is the back of the card get's really hot, a lot of heat gets trapped there.

 

[WhitetailAni]

Idea thief!
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1298611-thought-m2-nvme-slot-on-gpu/

 

[Selaya]

well, now we get to make use of 12 instead of 8 lanes
would it be possible at all to make use of all 16 (2 extra m.2 slots), or is that not supported by the pcie spec

 

[JasBC]

it seems that there is a hole in the PCB and it is just under the heatsink/radiator.

Full pictures are already available here:

ASUS Reveals A GeForce RTX 4060 Ti GPU Concept With A Built-In M.2 Slot For SSDs

ASUS has shown off a new hybrid graphics accelerator and storage PCIe Gen4 card on China’s equivalent of YouTube, Bilibili.

hothardware.com

Edit: although it is not exactly the same

Those traces to both the GPU-die and M.2-slot look very hand drawn.

 

[THU31]

well, now we get to make use of 12 instead of 8 lanes
would it be possible at all to make use of all 16 (2 extra m.2 slots), or is that not supported by the pcie spec

Good question. Technically most motherboards only allow x8+x8 bifurcation, so I don't think you could connect two drives with that configuration.

I've definitely seen PCI-E x16 cards with four M.2 slots, where only one slot works on motherboards without bifurcation support.

 

[ipo3nk]

This has nothing to do with any of that.

The 4060 Ti only uses 8 PCI-E lanes, so why not utilize the other 8 for an NVME on the GPU?

so.. if we plug in to 4x or 8x pcie, which one will be disabled? GPU or SSD? or just impact performance?

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

so.. if we plug in to 4x or 8x pcie, which one will be disabled? GPU or SSD? or just impact performance?

SSD. Lanes are always left to right.

Unless there is a PCIe switch, which I greatly doubt, it is merely two interfaces on a single connector, just like a x16 M.2 expansion card.

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I would be curious to know if different parts of the slot can run at different speeds, even with bifurcation. It would seem like it could gimp some M.2 by limiting it to PCIe 4.0. Yes, I get that there is no real advantage for the moment, but that could change in the future.

The vast majority of modern motherboards support PCIe bifurcation. Basically if you got a good B550 or anything newer (which you should, considered this is an Ada card), you're golden.

If your computer is older and/or you know it doesn't, there are other products in the market that will satisfy your needs

From Videocardz:

B-series Intel is a decent sized market, especially for buyers of lower-end GPUs.

 

[The Norwegian Drone Pilot]

Jesus, why couldn't they just make this with the 16 GB version when they know how useless the 8 GB version is?

However, if ASUS makes an M.2 slot on an RX 7800 XT, then I'm for sure going to get that one. Or maybe that won't work on that GPU as that card is PCIe x16 and not x8 like the 4060 Ti card is that allows the M.2 slot to begin with.

EDIT: Would be possible to make an ASUS RX 7800 XT card that runs x16 with an M.2 slot if that GPU automatically would go into x8 mode when an M.2 SSD is connected to the GPU. And I think that going from x16 to x8 on a RX 7800 XT would make you lose like 3-5% performance at most. So, it would be an acceptable tradeoff.

 

[wolf]

Very interesting premise to add another 8 lanes and chuck on two 4x m.2 slots. Keen for W1z's impending review. Now if they can find a way to make an LP 4060 like Gigabyte, and put 1 or 2 m.2 slots on the rear, that would be mouth-watering for SFF

 

[Steevo]

Idea thief!
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1298611-thought-m2-nvme-slot-on-gpu/

AMD did it in 2016.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

EDIT: Would be possible to make an ASUS RX 7800 XT card that runs x16 with an M.2 slot if that GPU automatically would go into x8 mode when an M.2 SSD is connected to the GPU. And I think that going from x16 to x8 on a RX 7800 XT would make you lose like 3-5% performance at most. So, it would be an acceptable tradeoff.

That would require a PCIe switch, which would be a fairly considerable cost increase. Probably not worth it.

 

[TheDeeGee]

Jesus, why couldn't they just make this with the 16 GB version when they know how useless the 8 GB version is?

However, if ASUS makes an M.2 slot on an RX 7800 XT, then I'm for sure going to get that one. Or maybe that won't work on that GPU as that card is PCIe x16 and not x8 like the 4060 Ti card is that allows the M.2 slot to begin with.

EDIT: Would be possible to make an ASUS RX 7800 XT card that runs x16 with an M.2 slot if that GPU automatically would go into x8 mode when an M.2 SSD is connected to the GPU. And I think that going from x16 to x8 on a RX 7800 XT would make you lose like 3-5% performance at most. So, it would be an acceptable tradeoff.

Only works if the GPU is wired for 4x or 8x PCI-E.

So high-end cards will never get this feature.

 

[Dr. Dro]

SSD. Lanes are always left to right.

Unless there is a PCIe switch, which I greatly doubt, it is merely two interfaces on a single connector, just like a x16 M.2 expansion card.

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I would be curious to know if different parts of the slot can run at different speeds, even with bifurcation. It would seem like it could gimp some M.2 by limiting it to PCIe 4.0. Yes, I get that there is no real advantage for the moment, but that could change in the future.

From Videocardz:
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B-series Intel is a decent sized market, especially for buyers of lower-end GPUs.

Interesting limitation on Intel, I suppose they just keep finding ways for artficial market segmentation. My old B550-E 100% had this feature I recall it distinctly

 

[john_]

PCIe X16 To X8+X4+X4 Splitter Card Adaptor M.2 NVMEx2 Input Ports Adapter Card Expansion Card Support 2280/2260/2242/2230 SSD - AliExpress

Chinese do have some nice ideas