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ASUS GeForce GTX 470 Fermi

erocker said:
A 5850 can do that as well. Perhaps it's a reach hitting 480 levels, but it's still about a hundred bucks cheaper than a 470.
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Not even close. $50 is the difference and that's by MSRP. Actual 5850's cost much more than their suggested retail price:

5850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Description=hd5850&bop=And&Order=PRICE

The GTX470 has been selling at it's suggested price, although it will probably go up in the future. In any case, right now the average 470 costs $350-360, while the average 5850 costs $310-320.

yogurt_21 said:
interesting the 470 definetly looks more enticing that the 480 at this point. the overclock is impressive and the fact that it matches the 480 when overclocked is even nicer. still curious to see how the fermi revision plays out and if those 32sp's come back on the 485 or whatever they call it.
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Yup it will be interesting to see what happens with newer cards based on the architecture. OCing is amazing and linear with the clock increase. It also scales linearly with the shader count from what I can tell from the results: 25% difference between 470 and 480. That's the exact difference that you get if you artificially calculate 480 results from 470 results. As far as I can tell that never really happened before.
 
Benetanegia said:
Not even close. $50 is the difference and that's by MSRP. Actual 5850's cost much more than their suggested retail price:

5850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&Description=hd5850&bop=And&Order=PRICE

The GTX470 has been selling at it's suggested price, although it will probably go up in the future. In any case, right now the average 470 costs $350-360, while the average 5850 costs $310-320.
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I'm going by the $399 price I see everywhere else for the 470. Either way the 5850 can match it for performance. If you want to argue about price, fine fifty bucks.
 
erocker said:
I'm going by the $399 price I see everywhere else for the 470. Either way the 5850 can match it for performance. If you want to argue about price, fine fifty bucks.
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Where? In Spain HD5xxx prices went so high that a GTX470 was cheaper at launch actually. And on Newegg it's not that dramatic, but it happens too, as I demostrated.

And it can be as fast? I don't think so, definately not when overclocked. A 470 OC can match a stock 480, a 5850 can only dream about that feat. You would need a 50% OC or so. FYI that's almost 1100 Mhz :laugh:
 
Great review and a great product. Nuff said. I just hope retailers don't jack the prices like on the hd5000 cards...
 
Benetanegia said:
And it can be as fast? I don't think so, definately not when overclocked. A 470 OC can match a stock 480, a 5850 can only dream about that feat. You would need a 50% OC or so. FYI that's almost 1100 Mhz :laugh:
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Damn, actually your math makes sense.. Kinda. Looking at the overall performance graph, the 5870 beats the 470. A 5850 is equal to a 5870 with a liitle bit more than equal clocks so.. Well, I just picked up one of those $359 GTX 470's for happy fun times! I really wanted to get a 480 but I would have to quit my job so I can hover over the internet to find one. Even if I'm not happy gaming with it, it's time I get my butt folding again. :toast:


*Uggghhh! Last time I ever use ZipZoomFly, this is the 4th time now they have sold me something stating it's in stock, charged me, then it wasn't in stock. Plus their prices are awful, I had a coupon to basically pay MSRP. Never again... Looks like one is in at Newegg... where I should of bought it to begin with.
 
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erocker said:
Damn, actually your math makes sense.. Kinda. Looking at the overall performance graph, the 5870 beats the 470. A 5850 is equal to a 5870 with a liitle bit more than equal clocks so.. Well, I just picked up one of those $359 GTX 470's for happy fun times! I really wanted to get a 480 but I would have to quit my job so I can hover over the internet to find one. Even if I'm not happy gaming with it, it's time I get my butt folding again. :toast:
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folding on a 480? good god man! save the penguins :D...

Im hoping for an NV refresh here soon... as good as a 470 is, it still eats power edit: at a surprisingly reasonable rate :| - never mind - fold away!
 
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OneCool said:
I know this is OT a little but does anyone know why nvidia uses such a weird memory amount on their cards?
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It is because they aren't using the standard 128/256/512 bit memory bus. The amount of memory must be a multiple of the memory bus.
 
phanbuey said:
folding on a 480? good god man! save the penguins :D...

Im hoping for an NV refresh here soon... as good as a 470 is, it still eats power like a monster.
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He is talking about folding, a GTX470 will clearly fold better than any other card at that power envelope.

The power consumption is the same as GTX285, 275 or HD4890. Not a monster in my book.
 
Benetanegia said:
He is talking about folding, a GTX470 will clearly fold better than any other card at that power envelope.

The power consumption is the same as GTX285, 275 or HD4890. Not a monster in my book.
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Yes you're right!... wow... i had no idea it was that good. I pretty much assumed it would be a mini 480. I guess that's what happens :D.

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phanbuey said:
Yes you're right!... wow... i had no idea it was that good. I pretty much assumed it would be a mini 480. I guess that's what happens :D.

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Yeah, it's the natural thing to think anyway and I don't know why there's such a big difference in power consumption tbh. We are talking about 100w... Maybe production cards consume less?
 
So it's a DX11 GTX 280. Power consumption, clocks and overcloking about identical.

But the real winner will be GTX 460, overclock even more (well it most likely will be clocked higher to begin with) and cost way less. Well in couple months time we'll know if I was right and by then it's either GTX 460 or price dropped 5850 for me :)

Benetanegia said:
I don't know why there's such a big difference in power consumption tbh. We are talking about 100w... Maybe production cards consume less?
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Nope, that's what they'll all consume. Compare GTX 280 with GTX 260 and you see the same thing. More memory chips also play into those figures.
 
And it's not a long card at 9'5 inches, it should fit in most cases; I think it must be the most powerful/compact Dx11 card.
 
I'm actually very impressed with this card, it's not too big (only about 3/4 of an inch longer than my 8800GTS), not unacceptably loud, doesn't draw too much power (~175w is really my limit), it's a bit hot but not unreasonable. The performance looks quite nice, almost on par with a HD5870 in a lot of games, and the OCing potential is excellent! I'll still never buy one because my limit for GPUs is always right around $150, but still a very excellent card!
Maybe I'll get a GTS440 or whatever the ~$150 version is called
 
nice review as always w1zz.

Do you by any chance have the power consumption with the overclock ?
 
claylomax said:
And it's not a long card at 9'5 inches, it should fit in most cases; I think it must be the most powerful/compact Dx11 card.
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Yeah, the 9800GTX is 10.5 inches.

They should have made the card longer, and increase the cooler size.
 
HardSide said:
Am I missing something, or there is no temperature comparison? Also you guys review other 470/480 cards from other distributors, like EVGA.
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yeah mate, Wiz does review cards from lots of other manufacturers. My guess is that when they become available he will do so. If you check other cards like the 5000 series etc Wiz has reviews for various manufacturers.

And no you didn't miss anything with the temp graphs. There is no comparisom between a multitude of cards. You could look up a review of the card you are interested in and manually compare?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/

For the me the temp review bit is more about whether the thermal characteristics of the card are acceptable or not, not a comparisom of more or less acceptable.


Looks like a very good all round card. Thanks Wiz.

Tye
 
Yeah finally NV has released a decent graphics card. The cooler looks sweet,same goes for the PCB.The temp is way better then the GTX 480.The price needs to be a little bit reasonable though.GREAT REVIEW WIZZ.......THANKX..:cool:
 
Don't pay attention to my avatar, I'm not a complete AMD fan, I've owned 2 nVidia cards and I've been very pleased with each of them. I was certain about the substitute of my HD4830, however, I wanted to see what nVidia had to offer, maybe I could change my mind. And I must admit that nVidia exceeded my expectations, I was almost convinced that Fermi was going to be at its limit when released but my surprise is that Fermi has a very good OC potential then its architecture is not compromised after all.

GTX470 is an excellent rival to HD5850 and it is perfectly placed in the price/performance battle. I am very disappointed with HD58xx performance in DX11, AMD used that flag to promote their new product line 6 months ago and right now nVidia is claiming it without effort. Moreover, I'm not a partisan of CUDA and PhysX for their closed nature but I admit they make a very good added value.

The time came, I had to make a choice, finally I bought a HD5850, first I didn't want to wait and second I live in a country whose average temperature is about 32C every day of the year, at noon my room is an oven as I don't have an AC. Every review I've seen, the GTX4xx reaches +90C and considering that those reviews were made in very well-conditioned rooms (20-23C) I don't see how I can have a GTX4xx on my system without causing a thermonuclear reaction or buying an AC with a new electricity bill attached to it. I know that eventually, AIBP's will release GTX4xx with better cooling solutions but as I said I don't wanna wait until next GPU gen.
 
Ordered a EVGA GTX 470 from Mwave (Don't really like them, but they had them in stock). The card will be here tomorrow!!!

Thanks for another awesome review:)
 
Great review as always W1zz.:respect: Is it possible to test the Voltage Tweak feature from ASUS?:rockout:
 
cauby said:
oh he didn't use the 10.4 for the ATI cards...i think i'm gonna start a drama!
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nice review w1z!
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The same here, what were you thinking!!!!??? why didn't you use Catalyst 12.12!!!??? :banghead:

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HammerON said:
Ordered a EVGA GTX 470 from Mwave (Don't really like them, but they had them in stock). The card will be here tomorrow!!!

Thanks for another awesome review:)
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Congrats!!! You live in Alaska, you'll enjoy your GTX470, I envy you really :toast:
 
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