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ASUS Radeon RX 9070 TUF OC

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AMD's new Radeon RX 9070 launches today. It comes at the same $550 price point as NVIDIA's RTX 5070, but offers a 16 GB VRAM size while the 5070 has only 12 GB. The new RX 9070 also managed to catch up with NVIDIA in ray tracing performance and efficiency.

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Unlike the 5 nm + 6 nm chiplet-based design of the Navi 32, the Navi 48 is a monolithic 4 nm silicon.

IT'S about prices at the end of the day.

So sad they did not kept the chiplet design. 16gib vram is not to my liking anymore for my next graphic card purchase. The card should be fit for years.

- how about fixing existing bugs before introducing amd chat and other new features?
 
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Atleast better than 5070 + 16GB VRAM... Good job AMD but should still be 500$ to make it a proper win.
 
Perform on par with 5070, selling for the same price LOL.
Doesn't look like AMD wants to win marketshare, at least with the 9070 nonXT
 
Perform on par with 5070, selling for the same price LOL.
Doesn't look like AMD wants to win marketshare, at least with the 9070 nonXT
But the RTX 5070 doesn't exist. Sure it's listed in stores, but it doesn't exist.

Unless you want to pay over 1000€ for that level of performance
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But the RTX 5070 doesn't exist. Sure it's listed in stores, but it doesn't exist.

Unless you want to pay over 1000€ for that level of performance
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Yeah the thing is Nvidia can pump out a crap load of GPUs if they wanted. Once 5070 stocks level go up, 9070 nonXT prices will have to go way below MSRP in order to sell.
 
AMD did manage to improve the power efficiency over RDNA3: At least 28% (100%/78%) more power efficient.
Looks like this is the non-XT 220W TDP version. What's the TDP of this OC card? (power efficiency could be higher if this wasn't OC) Considering this, the Raytracing power efficiency improvement is decent and AMD has caught up to NV in the Raytracing benchmark (about as fast as a 4070 Super (220W TDP) / 5070 (250W TDP, this one looks less power efficient just form the TDP, but idk the raytracing vs raster weighting of the benchmark).

Wonder about the PT performance, as AMD's GPUs are much slower in path-tracing:
  • Bad result in Indiana Jones And The Great Circle (1440p, Very High, Full RT).
General issue: Only HDMI 2.0 support on Linux.

Remaining questions: I wonder if the power scaling is fixed and need to check out FSR4:
  • The first FSR4 upscaling testing looks good.
  • In this test (4K Performance upscaling), FSR4 looks better than DLSS CNN model (which already is relieving and now AMD's upscaling is not a dealbreaker anymore), but worse than DLSS transformer model, though the transformer model has its own issues, as is mentioned in the vid.

A higher VRAM consumer version for AI LLM self-hosting/inferencing (to fit the full SOTA model Qwen2.5-32B-Instruct-Q6_K.gguf, which is 27GB + context, at least 32GB VRAM are required) or for gaming where 16GB VRAM are not enough, would be nice:
  • A 24 GB VRAM (3GB per GDDR6 chip, instead of the current 2GB, if such chips are available (they will be for GDDR7), though I heard of GDDR6W), or preferably
  • A 32 GB VRAM (clamshell VRAM design: using 2GB GDDR6 chips, just like now, but on both sides of the PCB), or even more preferably
  • A 48 GB VRAM (clamshell VRAM design + using 3GB GDDR6 chips)
I'd prefer the higher VRAM consumer version to be based on the 220W TDP chip, if the performance impact vs the 304W TDP is minimal: When I power limit my GPU to -50% to 100W, the tokens per second speed difference vs the full 200W is only like 3%.
 
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So we have a repeat of 7900 XT/XTX. 9070 non-XT is hot bollocks, 9070 XT is okay (AMD GPUs need to SEVERELY outclass green pricesakes to sell well).
 
Price of this Asus model is a joke if the estimate is true. $100 over MSRP, which puts it $50 more than the 9070XT MSRP? Crazy.

As for the 9070, looks like kind of a mixed bag on raytracing improvements? In some cases, it's better than RDNA3, in some, it's worse.

If there are models that sell for MSRP, it's... fine I guess? Definitely feels like it should be $500 instead of $550.

Looking forward to FSR4 comparisons in the future.
 
Hm, didn't expect it would beat NV on power efficiency... ^^

Also, 14% perf from OC, wow.
 
All this needs is a price drop (down from the actual MSRP)
 
- Raytracing is about as fast as a 4070 Super/5070, which is super disappointing.
That date, when RT perf on par with NV's competing cards is SUPER DISAPPOINTING.... :D
 
If this comes from China I wonder if it will get caught in trade war…….I have a feeling prices here will be inflated to the point of pass on that…..for all gpus.
 
I cannot f**king believe AMD f**king made non-gaming power consumption work out of the gates. Tempted to buy a 9070/XT just for that reason, although it deffo won't be an ASS-US.
 
Perform on par with 5070, selling for the same price LOL.
Doesn't look like AMD wants to win marketshare, at least with the 9070 nonXT
I think people who'd go with 12GB bazinga deserve to have it. :D

When even PF praises FSR4, the "buh features" is dead, I'm afraid.

 
Wow, RT difference was almost erased o_O
 
This should be $499 to be compelling. The only thing they got going for them is the 4K RT performance due to crappy 12GB ram on the 5070. But most people will chose the 5070 if on the same price point. But I guess AMD doesn't want to produce and sell these at all, so they will sit on the shelves while 5070 and 9070XT fly off them.
 
I think people who'd go with 12GB bazinga deserve to have it. :D

When even PF praises FSR4, the "buh features" is dead, I'm afraid.


DLSS4 suite includes Super Resolution, Ray Reconstruction, Reflex 2 and Multi Frame Generation.

Meanwhile FSR4 is what, super resolution, and how many games support FSR4 atm? Looks like only a handful of shitty Sony games that no one play LOL
 
DLSS4 suite includes Super Resolution, Ray Reconstruction, Reflex 2 and Multi Frame Generation.
SR - is bollocks naming for AI upscaling. Actual "super" goes from higher res to lower
RR - is dubious at best
Reflex - was invented by AMD :D (and improved this gn)
Bazinga Frames - you may want to check why this exists https://github.com/Nukem9/dlssg-to-fsr3 :D

PS
"Want to upgrade your driver just by clicking? Please login!" <= f*ck you, nvidia
 
Impressive efficiency and hopefully cheaper than 5070 in the followibg months.
 
SR - is bollocks naming for AI upscaling. Actual "super" goes from higher res to lower
RR - is dubious at best
Reflex - was invented by AMD :D (and improved this gn)
Bazinga Frames - you may want to check why this exists https://github.com/Nukem9/dlssg-to-fsr3 :D

PS
"Want to upgrade your driver just by clicking? Please login!" <= f*ck you, nvidia

Yes apparently no one care about features, only price to performance is king :roll:

But then why did Radeon drop to 10% marketshare, despite trying to beat Nvidia in price to perf basically since forever :kookoo:.

9070 at same price as 5070 is pretty much nonsense
 
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