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ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Extreme Motherboard Pictured

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It's hard to find a high end clean looking board :(. Only NZXT does the clean look. Less is more..

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Problem with those NZXT boards(apart from NZXT themselves) is the overuse of plastics for those covers which arent particularly useful in cooling components underneath. Asrock has Lite series of boards which actually get rid of "aesthetic" add-ons in favour of functionality.
 
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Atleast with Gigabyte X870e Xtreme users are getting dual 10Gbps NICs unlike overpriced Godlike and this RoGarbage turd.
Indeed. And for 1000+ i expect fullcover custom monoblock too.
Why don't they put a metal ram shield anymore?
Signal interference?
This board appears great for overclockers in almost every way, except it has 4 DIMM slots and no x8/x8 capability. Unless there's some true magic in the RAM topology.
Why? X870E Apex exists and is around 750 and purpose built for OC. No one buys extreme version kitchen sinks for OC with it's four DIMM slots.
No GPU remove button? Well guess you have to pay extra for that, and have it scratch up the GPU and all that jazz too. Bummer.
They have their button-less system now...
It's hard to find a high end clean looking board :(. Only NZXT does the clean look. Less is more..

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Problem with those NZXT boards(apart from NZXT themselves) is the overuse of plastics for those covers which arent particularly useful in cooling components underneath. Asrock has Lite series of boards which actually get rid of "aesthetic" add-ons in favour of functionality.
I knew this was coming. Also i believe they're metal now. Why should anyone care?

Motherboards are not putting out 600W of heat that they need good cooling. Aside from M.2 and CPU VRM there is nothing much generating noticeable heat there. Even the dual chipsets are cool with a passive heatsink.

Personally i think it's good that there choice. Let people have fully covered motherboards. It's not like there's a lack of alternatives that are not covered.
I used to own a P67 Sabertooth that had a similar fullcover plastic and it was perfectly fine.
 
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Good looking motherboard.
 
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Damn this is a good looking motherboard. Almost could make me go crazy and get it
Really? Hmm, I think it's looks plain as f. It's like a black Sabertooth.
 
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They're expensive ASICs, but it's been done before on this class of board:
The AM3+ ASUS Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0, utilized a PLX Gen3 PCIe switch as far upstream as it could be implemented (HT link to chipset, PCIe link to switch).
to best fanout expansion.
Problem is that PLX chips aren't anywhere near as cheap as back in AM3 days. It doesn't matter though, even if they were AMD would both refuse to use them and prohibit board manufacturers from using them, since AMD wants to keep its HEDT artificial market segmentation going strong and apparently anything more than a single x16 lane is "HEDT" in its books.
 
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Problem is that PLX chips aren't anywhere near as cheap as back in AM3 days.
They sure are but for a supposed $1200 board?
That's more expensive than ALL Threadripper boards.
In fact it's more expensive than half the Epyc boards too which is absolutely crazy for AM5.
So i doubt it's a cost issue.

Most likely it's a segmentation issue tho i find it odd that AMD would try and protect their HEDT segment when mainstream boards are so expensive already.
Mainstream boards with PLX chips would make sense from the cannibalization perspective if they were cheap. But they're not.
 
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Problem is that PLX chips aren't anywhere near as cheap as back in AM3 days. It doesn't matter though, even if they were AMD would both refuse to use them and prohibit board manufacturers from using them, since AMD wants to keep its HEDT artificial market segmentation going strong and apparently anything more than a single x16 lane is "HEDT" in its books.
It's been awhile since you took the dive into Threadripper. How would you rate your level of satisfaction with Zen2 Threadripper?

Price guesstimate: Hero is $750, so this one should be $1000-1200.
Ouch. I just saw an ebay 3960x full combo for $750 which seems to go around $1300 normally. I can't imagine paying so much for this AM5 motherboard.
 
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Really? Hmm, I think it's looks plain as f. It's like a black Sabertooth.

I was talking about the motherboard in general, not only its looks.

This is the ferrari of motherboards, built with no regards to price. The hardware is the absolute best for AM5. It's designed to overclock AM5 CPU's to 7 ghz and more cooled by liquid nitrogen.

I wonder how it handles "regular" CPU operation tho. I owned one of these kind of motherboard in the past, an EVGA (rip) X58 classified. For overclocking it's the absolute best you can get indeed. I was able to overclock my i7 980X to get a screenshot at 5.6 ghz with it under watercooling, when at that time 4 ghz was considered already a nice overclock for retail aircooled i7 920 cpus.

But for using it as a daily driver it was actually kinda meh, because some power saving features were not working properly. You could not enable overclocking and get intel speedstep to work as intended, the cpu wouldn't throttle to low power mode properly. I suppose this was intentional as low power mode is absolutely not something you want when doing extreme overclocking. But there was no "extreme" mode setting to turn this on or off in the bios.

This is not something motherboard reviewers talk about in their reviews, because you can't notice it when you only test a motherboard for benchmarks and send it back later, while it is important to know.

So i'm wondering if this extreme version also has the same issue, or if it was just bad implementation on my X58 from evga.
 
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Meeh, from a company which warranty support is terrible, bad reputation in last 1.5 years, overpriced products for the performance.
 
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Good luck getting big 5xxx GPU out of that slot without the release button, i used to have to poke a screwdriver in just to get my 3080 out.
 
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It's been awhile since you took the dive into Threadripper. How would you rate your level of satisfaction with Zen2 Threadripper?
High in terms of stability, features and performance (although given it's Zen 2 the IPC is not the greatest anymore). Low in terms of power consumption/heat, and just being straight up overkill for what I use the system for. I honestly don't see myself replacing this setup until or unless AMD or Intel have a stroke of common sense and decide to give consumers decent IO options.
 
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