Asus TUF Gaming z590 Plus wifi won't post...WTF?

[DashielN]

I did not try an old SSD. That's interesting. However, I still would have sent it back even if I discovered that work around. It's still defective and I prefer using M.2 drives.

Yeah... contemplating that myself. I don't want to re-rebuild yet again, but may be the only option. I'd love if there were a firmware solution forthcoming, but I know better than to hold my breath waiting for it.

I may give this a try just to see, just to have it confirmed on 2 boards! My sister has a sata ssd just sitting in her pc I may borrow for the test. although after putting everything together 3 times now I'm not looking forward to doing it all over again!

I went with a gigabyte aorus elite ax after. Sorry PaulieG, literally the first board you said you had trouble with and I got one. Runs well so far, but I haven't tried overclocking the memory or anything except for the GPU just a little bit. Running a cool 2666mhz on the 10th gen intel. It was cheaper than ones you mentioned, and the wifi Steel was not in stock. Glad to hear the Asrock is the running, and def agree with you about the fact the Asus board is still faulty out of the box, and m.2 is def the way of the future. I wonder if it would be the same problem with the m.2 on the pcie 4.0. slot, with compatible cpu, ssd?

I would also like to mention trying on a separate breaker, I'm an apprentice electrician, and bought a house that was a fixer upper to say the least. I know there's one 15 amp breaker that powers at least 12 outlets/lights one of those plugs in my room, and I tested the pc on a separate 20A circuit I have in the basement shop for tools just incase that was an issue and still encountered the same problem. As Nater said it was grasping at straws at that point.

I'll update if I get around to trying the asus with the sata ssd this weekend! Good catch there DashielN

You can do a quick test just by taking the M.2 drive out and trying to boot with no drive at all. If it's the same issue I had, it'll get to the BIOS at least and you'll have a better fix on the issue without having to scavenge another machine.

 

[PaulieG]

Yeah... contemplating that myself. I don't want to re-rebuild yet again, but may be the only option. I'd love if there were a firmware solution forthcoming, but I know better than to hold my breath waiting for it.


You can do a quick test just by taking the M.2 drive out and trying to boot with no drive at all. If it's the same issue I had, it'll get to the BIOS at least and you'll have a better fix on the issue without having to scavenge another machine.

I almost wish I still had the board to confirm whether this was my issue. I hate leaving things unknown.

 

[Sri]

OK, so I have a brand new Asus Tuf Gaming z590 Plus wifi that I bought to replace a Gigabyte z590 that I returned because it hated clocking memory over 3600. That's a whole other story. Anyways, I just can't figure this out, and I've tried every troubleshooting step I've ever known to try to make it work. It does the same thing every time. From the very first attempt, the fans turn on, the AIO pump turns on, The Q-LED goes from quick red then gets hung for a few seconds on Dram and the light just goes away, never even lights up the gpu light. It's never posted out of the box., I'm desperate for suggestions before I give up and return the board. Before you make suggestions, these are the steps I've already taken:

Original system specs; Asus z590, Intel 10600k, rx580, WD Black M.2, Gskill Trident Z RGB 3600, Phanteks AMP 750w psu. All components were verified working with a Gigabyte z590 as of yesterday.

-Cleared cmos twice by removing the battery for 15 minutes each time
-Tried 3 different sets of DDR4, Ballistix Elite 4000, TridentZ 3600 and Mushkin Redline 4000. Tried each set with one stick at a time in each slot individually
-Tried 2 different psu's, Phanteks AMP 750w and Enermax 650w. Triple checked power supply cable connections on everything.
-Tried 2 GPU's, a 5700xt and rx580.
-Tried 3 different monitors, both hdmi and DVI on the rx580
- Uninstalled the AIO and cpu to make sure there were no bent pins.

So, any ideas? I literally can't think of anything else to try.....nothing but dead ends.

I've tried removing the M2 and it worked! It freaking worked.

I had the exact issue with my new build. I'm waiting and researching to see how to resolve this..

 

[PaulieG]

I've tried removing the M2 and it worked! It freaking worked.

I had the exact issue with my new build. I'm waiting and researching to see how to resolve this..

Glad to see see the problem and work around have been identified. I hope they can get it resolved because it's a really nice board for the money, on paper.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

I've tried removing the M2 and it worked! It freaking worked.

I had the exact issue with my new build. I'm waiting and researching to see how to resolve this..

Reminds me of an old-school-style-IDE connector being backwards on a Pentium I system, where the symptom was like I killed the processor or the motherboard, LOL. But it was like nothing happened with it turned around, IIRC. (That was 20 years ago, when I was working on a Pentium 100 system)

I thought it also would power on and stay on, but nothing else! On a recent Intel, it's often a symptom of a bad LGA socket!

 

[Caring1]

I've tried removing the M2 and it worked! It freaking worked.

I had the exact issue with my new build. I'm waiting and researching to see how to resolve this..

Might be related, but there's a thread here somewhere about W.D. drives and Whea errors, there's also threads mentioning PCI-E 4 16x16 having to be set in the Bios at PCI-e 3 for GPUs to work, it's possible the latest PCI-e 4 NVMe slot doesn't play nice with older versions, if your Motherboard has two NVMe slots try the lower slot as it runs at the slower protocol, the board should boot.

 

[Sri]

So, this is what I've done to make it all work.

1. Removed my M.2 SSD from motherboard.
2. Powered on my PC with pendrive attached to see a boot screen and later on the "install windows 10" window.
3. Closed installation window, this caused PC to restart.
4. While restarting, pressed the delete key to enter to BIOS menu.
5. Switched to advancedmode and navigated to Advanced > Advanced onboard device configuration screen.
6. Under "M.2_2 configuration", I've selected PCIE.
7. Under "M.2_3 & SATA 6G_56 switch" I've selected M.2_3.
8. Saved and shut down my PC.
9. Now, connected my M.2 SSD to slot B (M.2_2 socket 3)
10. Connected my HDD to SATA slot B (left slot)
11. Restarted PC and was able to boot from bootable USB and install OS into M2 slot SSD.

PS. Referring slot names per official manual.

My build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/srivastav/saved/#view=HTYwgs

Thanks,
Sri

 

[DashielN]

So, this is what I've done to make it all work...

Nice job finding a work-around. I ended up returning my board last week and replacing it with a different model (a Prime Z590-P) that worked out of the box, but good to know that a work-around exists and glad my experience helped you find it. Bad enough that the auto-detection logic is busted, but just crazy that it breaks in such a way that you can't resolve things manually without all that.

 

[sp.ace.cowboy]

Also confirmed this morning that this fix worked for me as well. The power of the internet prevails.

 

[PaulieG]

I have to say that I'm NOT thrilled with my experience on the z590 chipset as a whole. I've owned a Asus, Gigabyte, Asrock and MSI z590's so far, and MSI is the ONLY board that didn't have some weird quirk or fussiness out of the box. That's weird for me because I used to stay away from MSI, because "back in the day" MSI boards gave me more problems than any other board manufacturer. So far, Asus the M.2 issue. Gigabyte handled memory training like garbage and was very stubborn on clearing cmos. The Asrock, which is one of 2 boards that I still have has a mysterious and seemingly random no post despite all stability test and hwinfo showing the cpu, memory etc are very stable and the psu is feeding power as it should. I acknowledge that I stick with midrange boards. You'll never see me spending $500 on a z590 Maximus Hero but WTF...a $230 board should work right out of the box.

 

[topspeedPT]

So, this is what I've done to make it all work.

1. Removed my M.2 SSD from motherboard.
2. Powered on my PC with pendrive attached to see a boot screen and later on the "install windows 10" window.
3. Closed installation window, this caused PC to restart.
4. While restarting, pressed the delete key to enter to BIOS menu.
5. Switched to advancedmode and navigated to Advanced > Advanced onboard device configuration screen.
6. Under "M.2_2 configuration", I've selected PCIE.
7. Under "M.2_3 & SATA 6G_56 switch" I've selected M.2_3.
8. Saved and shut down my PC.
9. Now, connected my M.2 SSD to slot B (M.2_2 socket 3)
10. Connected my HDD to SATA slot B (left slot)
11. Restarted PC and was able to boot from bootable USB and install OS into M2 slot SSD.

PS. Referring slot names per official manual.

My build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/srivastav/saved/#view=HTYwgs

Thanks,
Sri

Intel Core i9-10850K (10th gen)
Asus TUF Gaming Z590-PLUS WIFI



Page 6 of the MB manual:

 

[Caring1]

So, this is what I've done to make it all work.

Followed my earlier suggestion of moving the NVMe to the lower slot, well done figuring it out all by yourself.
I don't know why I bother sometimes.

 

[DashielN]

Intel Core i9-10850K (10th gen)
Asus TUF Gaming Z590-PLUS WIFI



Page 6 of the MB manual:
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Good thought, but this was not the issue, at least for me. The same issue occurred regardless of which slot is used.

 

[Deleted member 205776]

Gigabyte handled memory training like garbage and was very stubborn on clearing cmos.

Sounds familiar. flashback to Gigabyte board's entire BIOS dying from one wrong timing, clearing CMOS doing nothing

 

[zahn99]

I have the same issue as above. I first have a Gigabyte Z590 MB and return it. Now have have the Asus tuf gaming z590-plus WIFI. I have tried 3 different sets of vendor certified memory no luck. All sets were 2 sets of 16GB sticks. I don't have anything other than the CPU fan and the one power connection for the case plugged in. Of course i have all of the MB power connections plugged in. But no M2, No SSDs. no usb connections but have the same results as above. No Post. I did removed all of the memory and purchased a cheap 2 wire speaker and it does beep w/o memory installed. But not with memory installed. The Z590 platforms are getting old.. I have the original bois, 0405 on MB sticker.

I have the new Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake 8-Core 3.6. Any suggestions?

 

[mao.net]

Hello, I'm new here. Cheers to everyone.

I've just bought an asus tuf z590 plus wifi with an Intel i11-11700k and QVL corsair tuf edition memory, WITHOUT an external pci-express graphic card. Original bios 0405, power on and..nothing. exactly your same issue: cpu fan and case fan start moving and then die. No post, no beep alarm, no Qled indicator, nothing. Just removed everything execpt CPU and RAM, but hdmi doesn't show anything. I've contacted the vendor and he said to update the bios, but HOW? Since no signal coming from the m/b?
Then I've tried to insert and old PCIExpress card and then......MAGIC! the mobo starts with the hdmi cable coming from the new external graphic card. So I've updated the bios to the last 0820 version and tried the whole thing once again.
I removed the external graphic card and attached the hdmi cable straight to the m/b and NOTHING. It was dead!
Tried to insert (once again) the external graphic card, this time connecting the hdmi cable TO THE M/B and...tadaaaa.
It worked. Post, beep and Qled, everything was ok. Then I've installed hdd, m2, everything to start with my new PC.
So I've avoided opening an rma cause I've learned it's a firmware issue (i hope) they'll fix asap.
Summary:
- bios 0405 -> HDMI from m/b won't start until u connect and external pci-ex graphic card and connect the cable to the pci-ex card
- bios 0820 -> HDMI from m/b won't start until u connect and external pci-ex graphic card and connect the cable to the m/b (this time)

(sorry for my bad english)

cheers

I have the same issue as above. I first have a Gigabyte Z590 MB and return it. Now have have the Asus tuf gaming z590-plus WIFI. I have tried 3 different sets of vendor certified memory no luck. All sets were 2 sets of 16GB sticks. I don't have anything other than the CPU fan and the one power connection for the case plugged in. Of course i have all of the MB power connections plugged in. But no M2, No SSDs. no usb connections but have the same results as above. No Post. I did removed all of the memory and purchased a cheap 2 wire speaker and it does beep w/o memory installed. But not with memory installed. The Z590 platforms are getting old.. I have the original bois, 0405 on MB sticker.

I have the new Intel Core i7-11700K Rocket Lake 8-Core 3.6. Any suggestions?

 

[anatropolos]

This is what is happening to me. LOST sending board in to ASUS

 

[uffeeki]

Wish I had found this thread earlier before purchasing this board. Not sure my problem fully relates to the problems but I've had 2 pc's Asus TUF z590 Plus Wifi boards since last spring. First one RMA'd through PCIe slots stopped working and local reseller claimed it was due to some scratches on PCB very close to the edge of the board. Second one worked for summer months but started to light up red CPU light on board occasionally during CPU stress but computer still kept running and the light went off after a while. I thought it could have been due to thermal throttle and added some fans to the case and reapplied CPU paste. When I tried to boot no POST - no beeps - no nothing. I removed everything from the board except CPU and M.2 - even the fans stopped after few seconds. I removed CPU from the PSU and I could have the fans spinning so something was clearly short circuiting.

Currently this RMA is still in process but I feel like this is it with ASUS and now I'm happily back running MSI board that was almost half cheaper and has given zero troubles. All in all not the kind of quality I would expect from an 269€ board.