ASUS Turkey Leaks Details of AMD's Upcoming Ryzen 7000 Mobile CPU

[Valantar]

Is it just I who need no more than 2 minutes in google to check any given CPU/APU number meaning?

Yes, because googling an unreleased CPU gives such reliable information

That table makes no sense so far, AMD already made 4250 U, which according to table should be 2020, Athlon Gold, Zen 5, lower, ultra thin model, but it was just way older Zen based Athlon and wasn't ever found in anything ultrathin, only chunky and plasticky.

That naming scheme was introduced long after the 4000-series, and was not retroactive. At least check the source link, please.

 

[kozad]

AMD really shoulda just stuck with their short lived "We're bringing desktop and mobile naming into parity to end confusion" mantra. This new decoder system was something no one asked for and it's just gonna create more confusion for consumers.

 

[The red spirit]

That naming scheme was introduced long after the 4000-series, and was not retroactive. At least check the source link, please.

I know full well about source, but nowhere it says that it doesn't work for old products. Anyway, it's confusing as heck, tries to invent some reasons why it would work without actually working as intended and the only thing it does is misleading customers. Basically bullshit.

 

[zlobby]

Yes, because googling an unreleased CPU gives such reliable information

The point is obviously that it takes so little time to check out a CPU when you need to do so e.g., before buying one. Of course researching 9xxx, 15xxx or whatever is pointless until specs are officially available.

 

[Valantar]

The point is obviously that it takes so little time to check out a CPU when you need to do so e.g., before buying one. Of course researching 9xxx, 15xxx or whatever is pointless until specs are officially available.

... Then why did you quote my post, which had absolutely nothing to do with what you're saying here?

I know full well about source, but nowhere it says that it doesn't work for old products. Anyway, it's confusing as heck, tries to invent some reasons why it would work without actually working as intended and the only thing it does is misleading customers. Basically bullshit.

It kind of stands to reason that when you introduce a new naming scheme it doesn't apply to older products, no? If not, wouldn't it have been introduced when those products were launched?

Also: yes, AMD's continued use of mixed architectures in mobile is confusing, especially as they're present as high up as Ryzen 7. But at least this naming scheme let's you see these details, unlike the previous kinda-secret "second digit odd number is older arch" system. These names are complex, but they are at least legible if you know the system.

 

[Eskimonster]

Aperantly you need tools to find out what AMD is releasing.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Hard pass, why on earth would you not wait for Strix Point, Zen 4 + RDNA3 APU. Also rumours of Strix Point v-cache models later on.

 

[The red spirit]

It kind of stands to reason that when you introduce a new naming scheme it doesn't apply to older products, no? If not, wouldn't it have been introduced when those products were launched?

Also: yes, AMD's continued use of mixed architectures in mobile is confusing, especially as they're present as high up as Ryzen 7. But at least this naming scheme let's you see these details, unlike the previous kinda-secret "second digit odd number is older arch" system. These names are complex, but they are at least legible if you know the system.

It gives me absolutely no insight about chip. AMD definitely has a big naming problem and it's not just laptops, but desktops too. I still remember what happened to R5 4500, it's not even Zen 3 or desktop APUs that have forever bee a huge naming mess for no reason. There was no reason to name 2200G as one, it should have been 1200G, the iGPU enabled version of 1200. There's no way that AMD is really that stupid and can't come out with cohesive naming scheme, I think it's intentional. So that you accidentally buy something that is crappier than you expected.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Intel is no longer the market leader. That distinction goes to ARM as the vast majority of internet connected devices use the ARM ISA. Even TSMC makes more money than Intel now just making ARM chips. Last quarter it was $20 billion TSMC and $15 billion Intel.

Back to the point, most do not think of model naming being based off of year but maybe Intel and AMD can make it stick. It helps that any GPU and CPU architecture in the last five years serves the vast majority of consumers worldwide no matter the SKU.

They are leaders in windows based laptops and by a considerable margin.

 

[Tek-Check]

Unless Zen 3+ works with LPDDR4 I guess it must be a Zen 3? Besides being Vega.

It must be Zen 3 Cezanne 5000 series. Rembrandt Zen 3+ supports (LP)DDR5.

Ryzen 7 7730U is based on a Zen 3 or a Zen 3+ core that sits in the 15-28 W TDP range. According to Videocardz, it will be using an AMD Vega based GPU

There are three clear indicators whether the third number (architecture) is Zen 3 Cezanne or Zen3+ Rembrandt.
1. If Vega iGPU, (LP)DDR4 and NVMe Gen3, it must be Cezanne 5000 Zen 3 APU.
2. Zen 3+ 6000 Rembrandt supports RDNA2 iGPU, (LP)DDR5 and NVMe Gen4 (and USB4, if provided)

 

[Xajel]

Unless Zen 3+ works with LPDDR4 I guess it must be a Zen 3? Besides being Vega.

From what I've seen, being DDR4 means it's not RDNA2, so its Vega. And there's still no DDR4 for Zen4, so I would guess AMD is still limiting RDNA2 & Zen4 for DDR5 only.

The model clearly says it is Zen3(+).

I personally would love to see an RDNA2 based AM4 APU, just for the better VCE which supports more codecs than Vega has.

 

[Daven]

They are leaders in windows based laptops and by a considerable margin.

And ARM is the leader in everything based tablets, smartphones, network hardware, appliances, cars, industrial machines, scientific devices, handhelds of various types, plane entertainment systems, casino gambling machines, cash registers, information kiosks, vending machines…I’m guessing you get it by this point. Even x86 devices can have a variety of ARM controller chips in them.

When ARM moves so does our interconnected world.

Those aren’t Windows based laptops being held over their heads. Intel (and MS) wishes they were but they are not.

 

[Tek-Check]

From what I've seen, being DDR4 means it's not RDNA2, so its Vega. And there's still no DDR4 for Zen4, so I would guess AMD is still limiting RDNA2 & Zen4 for DDR5 only.

No.
Zen3 Cezanne APU is Vega, DDR4 and M.2 drive Gen3

Zen3+ Rembrandt APU is RDNA2, DDR5 and M.2 drive Gen4, plus USB4 on some models.

The model clearly says it is Zen3(+)

Zen3 and Zen3+ are different, as shown above.

I personally would love to see an RDNA2 based AM4 APU, just for the better VCE which supports more codecs than Vega has.

Impossible at the moment.

 

[gQx]

Well, the page should be managed by Asus employees, as if you check the link, it's still under the Asus.com domain.
It appears that the page has been taken down now.

when you are in rome

 

[Valantar]

when you are in rome

... you drive your Maserati down the Spanish Steps?