Awesome Llano Overclocking Tool

[Yo_Wattup]

p0 is at the same settings... for the stress testing i set all the performance states the same

 

[Mathragh]

Weird shit, I actually noticed the same thing when I was testing, but I thought it was just an artifact

 

[xBruce88x]

if i remember right, turbo mode only overclocks 2 cores while downclocking the others to stay within tdp. this is why when all cores are loaded turbo mode doesnt kick in. turbo mode is more or less for apps that dont take advantage of multiple threads and prefer clock speed over number of cores. with that said, you dont really need a very high o/c for turbo mode and you could probably lower it a tad along with voltage.

 

[Mathragh]

if i remember right, turbo mode only overclocks 2 cores while downclocking the others to stay within tdp. this is why when all cores are loaded turbo mode doesnt kick in. turbo mode is more or less for apps that dont take advantage of multiple threads and prefer clock speed over number of cores. with that said, you dont really need a very high o/c for turbo mode and you could probably lower it a tad along with voltage.

In Llano, i dont think Turbo underclocks the cores not being turbo-ed.

Just take a look at the screenies in the first post, both CPU-Z and that tweak utility show that cores turbo, while the rest of the cores stay in the P1-state. Turbo also ups the voltage for the whole CPU plane, so the increased voltage should increase heat.

However, as his Turbo state doesnt have a higher voltage than the P1-state, higher temperatures because of momentary higher voltages cant happen.

I'm also wondering how low you got the voltage at the end, Yo_Wattup!

 

[Yo_Wattup]

It was getting close to beer time last night, so I finished at 1.120V. Resuming this morning, and I got down to 1.060V before FINALLY getting my first blue screen, sticking to 1.072V now. Ambient air temp is a bit cooler than last night, 100% load is at 36C. Idle is 18C which is around ambient temp. Now trying for as low voltage I can get in P7/6 state (400/800mhz), Coz sometimes my GF forgets to turn it of during the day, pumping up my electricity bill, :shadedshu so I if I could get the voltage uber-low, combined with the onboard graphics, I'd end up with quite the power saving-rig. Hahaha, charge an iPod from it and it doubles energy consumption..

 

[Mathragh]

Whoah! thats some insanely low volts for 3,6Ghz O.O, the lappy doesnt even get close to 3Ghz at that voltage!

You must really have a great chip good for you!

Lets just hope it can survive a night stress testing at that voltage^^

 

[xBruce88x]

looks like a handy guide/tool. Gave you a thanks since i linked it in another thread.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Will this work for an E-450 also? just got my new lappy this morning and can't wait to get home and play with it

 

[Mathragh]

Will this work for an E-450 also? just got my new lappy this morning and can't wait to get home and play with it

This one wont, but if you look at the bottom of my first post, theres a link to a tool for the E450(brazos)

Havent heard of anyone else using that one for his brazos, so looking forward to hearing about some results!

Oh! IIRC, the tool for brazos only supports voltage tweaking and not the increase of the multiplier, as the mult isnt upwards unlocked(like in Llano). Perhaps you can let it run at turbo frequencies at stock though.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

This one wont, but if you look at the bottom of my first post, theres a link to a tool for the E450(brazos)

Havent heard of anyone else using that one for his brazos, so looking forward to hearing about some results!

Oh! IIRC, the tool for brazos only supports voltage tweaking and not the increase of the multiplier, as the mult isnt upwards unlocked(like in Llano). Perhaps you can let it run at turbo frequencies at stock though.

Ah damn, I can't find anything about the turbo on an e-450 are you sure you are not just referring to the grahics ability to clock up to 600mhz from 508? with the brazos tool can you adjust the bclk?

 

[Mathragh]

I dont think so, but i'd suggest you just give it a try!
If nothing else you can still tweak the voltage and improve power usage and battery life

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I dont think so, but i'd suggest you just give it a try!
If nothing else you can still tweak the voltage and improve power usage and battery life

That sucks, after a bit of googling I think you're completely correct, was looking for a 2ghz+ OC , oh well. Will try out the brazos tool for voltage and report back

 

[Yo_Wattup]

Okay some basic cpu benches:

3600mhz with PassMark: (3253 overall points)

2400mhz/2700mhz turbo: (2995 points overall)

3600mhz 3dmark vantage, only cpu benches:

2400kmz/2700mhz turbo:

Overall, a little dissapointed in the performance gains, considering it was a 150% boost in frequency. But an overclock is an overclock, nonetheless, and this overclock was the easiest I've ever done.



And here's how it compares to my 4.6ghz 2500k in PassMark: (9009 points) EDIT: sorry that's 4.5ghz, 4.6 is 9188

 

[Mathragh]

Thanks for those benchies!
Indeed, you'd expect some better results from such a huge overclock.
I only got the chance to test Winrar on the overclocked Llano, and with a lesser overclock it gave me +18% (from 548KB/s -> 645KB/s) with a single thread, and +21% (from 1475KB/s to 1783 KB/s) when multithreading.

However, this was with "only" a 35% OC on the turbo(from 2,3GHz to 3,1GHz), and a 38% (1,6GHz to 2,2GHz) on the non turbo.

Based on those results, i'd expect a larger boost in performance from your even higher OC.
At what speed does your memory run? Perhaps things are getting bottlenecked by slower memory (I bought 8GB 1600MHz mem for the laptop when i saw it had just 4GB of 1333MHz)

 

[Yo_Wattup]

Thanks for those benchies!
Indeed, you'd expect some better results from such a huge overclock.
I only got the chance to test Winrar on the overclocked Llano, and with a lesser overclock it gave me +18% (from 548KB/s -> 645KB/s) with a single thread, and +21% (from 1475KB/s to 1783 KB/s) when multithreading.

However, this was with "only" a 35% OC on the turbo(from 2,3GHz to 3,1GHz), and a 38% (1,6GHz to 2,2GHz) on the non turbo.

Based on those results, i'd expect a larger boost in performance from your even higher OC.
At what speed does your memory run? Perhaps things are getting bottlenecked by slower memory (I bought 8GB 1600MHz mem for the laptop when i saw it had just 4GB of 1333MHz)

The memory on her computer has always got me. It says on it, PC3 10800 (or whatever 1333mhz equates to) but in CPU-z it doesn't show the speed, just the timings which red 5-5-5-something, which leads me to believe that its not 1333mhz, but then why would it say its 1333 on the sticks? I don't know. I'll be replacing the ram soon anyway... ill get back to ya.

Good performance results on your machine though. Your results are almost the exact same ratio as your overclocks (in terms of %age)... which is how it should be...

 

[Mathragh]

The memory on her computer has always got me. It says on it, PC3 10800 (or whatever 1333mhz equates to) but in CPU-z it doesn't show the speed, just the timings which red 5-5-5-something, which leads me to believe that its not 1333mhz, but then why would it say its 1333 on the sticks? I don't know. I'll be replacing the ram soon anyway... ill get back to ya.

Good performance results on your machine though. Your results are almost the exact same ratio as your overclocks (in terms of %age)... which is how it should be...

Thanks! and aye, i'll sneak out her laptop this afternoon to do some more benching
I'll try Passmark on it aswell, maybe it'll give some insight on the performance of your chip aswell.

 

[wahdangun]

The memory on her computer has always got me. It says on it, PC3 10800 (or whatever 1333mhz equates to) but in CPU-z it doesn't show the speed, just the timings which red 5-5-5-something, which leads me to believe that its not 1333mhz, but then why would it say its 1333 on the sticks? I don't know. I'll be replacing the ram soon anyway... ill get back to ya.

Good performance results on your machine though. Your results are almost the exact same ratio as your overclocks (in terms of %age)... which is how it should be...

and make sure you get at least 1866 ram, because llano really bandwidth starved

 

[Yo_Wattup]

and make sure you get at least 1866 ram, because llano really bandwidth starved

meh, its just the gf's rig, ima just get 4-8gb 1600

 

[Mathragh]

KK! got some passmark results, and they look promising!

Stock (1,6GHz - 2,3GHz Turbo)

OC (2,2GHz - 3,1GHz Turbo)

Thats more like it!

A ~30% increase!

Also means that indeed your processor is probably greatly bottlenecked by the RAM

EDIT: Can I also ask a Moderator to change the Thread title into "Awesome Llano Overclocking Tool"? (without the "mobile" part and with the addition of Tool, since the tool is quite significant to the successes we've been having here, and that it doesnt only work for mobile Llano's)

 

[Yo_Wattup]

KK! got some passmark results, and they look promising!

Stock (1,6GHz - 2,3GHz Turbo)
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/maffraff/PassmarkStock.png

OC (2,2GHz - 3,1GHz Turbo)
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/maffraff/PassmarkOC.png

Thats more like it!

A ~30% increase!

Also means that indeed your processor is probably greatly bottlenecked by the RAM

EDIT: Can I also ask a Moderator to change the Thread title into "Awesome Llano Overclocking Tool"? (without the "mobile" part and with the addition of Tool, since the tool is quite significant to the successes we've been having here, and that it doesnt only work for mobile Llano's)

Thats sweet as man! So your 2200mhz mobile llano is not far behind my 3600mhz desktop llano.. I will definitely be getting some better ram soon. BTW what RAM/speed you running?

Also it's much easier to just message a random mod to change the title. Try mussels he's pretty cool.

 

[Mathragh]

Thats sweet as man! So your 2200mhz mobile llano is not far behind my 3600mhz desktop llano.. I will definitely be getting some better ram soon. BTW what RAM/speed you running?

Also it's much easier to just message a random mod to change the title. Try mussels he's pretty cool.

I'm running 1600MHz, as thats the highest this chip can do stock.

Your chip on the other hand should be able to do 1866MHz.

I've also found some performance comparison graphs which show what faster memory can do for your chip, even at stock speeds here, and here.

Hope it helps in your descision making^^.

Also thanks for the tip! I will PM mussels.

 

[RejZoR]

Can FusionTweaker be used on Zacate class APU's as well? I'm thinking of giving it a spin on my E-450 (Compaq CQ57).

 

[Mathragh]

Can FusionTweaker be used on Zacate class APU's as well? I'm thinking of giving it a spin on my E-450 (Compaq CQ57).

No, but BrazosTweaker can, but i believe the multiplier isnt partially unlocked in brazos, unlike in Llano, so that kinda limits to overclocking. Howerver, you can still tweak the voltage.

A link to brazostweaker is at the bottom of my first post.

 

[Mussels]

seems like an alternative to K10stat, which i used for similar results.

 

[Mathragh]

seems like an alternative to K10stat, which i used for similar results.

Aye, I think its from the same author.