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Nice rig, hope you enjoy it soon!

What model of AZZA is this? can you add more fans? +15C seem a lot moving into the case...

Just curious... are you planning CPU oc or just RAM and memory subsystem in general?
 
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It's the AZZA 240-CSAZ TITAN. For around 75 BUX CANADIAN I bought a promo from NewEgg that included a GAMDIAS 80 plus 650 watt PSU with the case. Back in the day that I got it a tempered glass panel case for under a 100 CA was a rare find. This, for $75 after rebates and a PSU to boot seemed like a great deal at the time. The CPU is already mildly oc'd to 4.2 GHz. I stepped down the RAM a tad since I can't expect much more than 3666 MHz on a 3800x anyway. There is some capacity for more fans but it is a tight fit for the exhaust fan which would completely block out the "HERO" logo on the system board and make the build look junky. IMO the case is a poor design for air flow and might require a little modding. I suspect the designer anticipated that most people would be running with AI/water cooling with this case.


 
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It's the AZZA 240-CSAZ TITAN. For around 75 BUX CANADIAN I bought a promo from NewEgg that included a GAMDIAS 80 plus 650 watt PSU with the case. Back in the day that I got it a tempered glass panel case for under a 100 CA was a rare find. This, for $75 after rebates and a PSU to boot seemed like a great deal at the time. The CPU is already mildly oc'd to 4.2 GHz. I stepped down the RAM a tad since I can't expect much more than 3666 MHz on a 3800x anyway. There is some capacity for more fans but it is a tight fit for the exhaust fan which would completely block out the "HERO" logo. The case is really a poor design for air flow and might require a little modding. I suspect the designer anticipated that most people would be running with water cooling with this case.

3800X should be able to do 3733Mhz-3800Mhz. A good Ryzen 3000 CPU scales up to 1900 on the IF.
 
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It's the AZZA 240-CSAZ TITAN. For around 75 BUX CANADIAN I bought a promo from NewEgg that included a GAMDIAS 80 plus 650 watt PSU with the case. Back in the day that I got it a tempered glass panel case for under a 100 CA was a rare find. This, for $75 after rebates and a PSU to boot seemed like a great deal at the time. The CPU is already mildly oc'd to 4.2 GHz. I stepped down the RAM a tad since I can't expect much more than 3666 MHz on a 3800x anyway. There is some capacity for more fans but it is a tight fit for the exhaust fan which would completely block out the "HERO" logo. The case is really a poor design for air flow and might require a little modding. I suspect the designer anticipated that most people would be running with water cooling with this case.
Slightly small case but the worst part is the (only) 2 fan places if you exclude top (240mm) radiator place. This would be a permanent case for this rig?

For the OC...
I like "studying" about ZEN2 dynamics in general and want to know about clocks and boost behaviour and all the stuff related. I never consider OC mine cause I'm convinced that it gives pretty much anything it got out of the box, with the best possible way, but I can understand if someone likes to fiddle with his CPU just for the fun of it or see if he can squeeze anything more out. So instead of CPU "direct" oc, lately I'm trying to see if possible to optimize the boost clocks. Playing with vcore offsets (+/-) and that short of stuff. Now I'm trying to understand how PrecisionBoost and PrecisionBoostOverdrive (different things) really works and about
PPT (Package Power Tracking - Watts)
TDC (Thermal Design Current - Amps)
EDC (Electrical Design Current - Amps)
...parts of PBO.

after 2hourd Browsing/watching videos
HWiNFO_04_01_2020b.png

during CB R20 all core
HWiNFO_04_01_2020c.png

after 2 hours gaming
HWiNFO_04_01_2020e.png

Another interesting point of ZEN2 CPUs is the FIT (silicon FITness monitoring). No direct user monitoring or altering its parameters as its the build-in manager of the CPU (controlling PB/PBO) programmed by AMD inside AGESA.

What I've done so far is to give a small negative vcore offset to reduce consumption and temp across the entire range of boosting (through base clock, up to max single) and see if that would raise clocks, but that didnt work out for me as my 3600 apparently has poor quality silicon (expected). The clocks went down by 1~2% while the vcore offset was negative by 2~3%.
Now as shown in pics above I have reduce the power current (EDC) limit and this had raise a bit the clocks (25~50MHz), only in all core 100% load situation.

I'm interested to see how the 3800X behaves regarding PPT/TDC/EDC in default or in OC state, like yours. Thats the reason of all this...:D

I know you're in the middle of moving places right now and this implies extremely limited time!
Just keep it in the back as a thought... I'd like to see some screenshots at some point if you are interested by this.

Some interesting reads
 
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I'm interested to see how the 3800X behaves regarding PPT/TDC/EDC in default or in OC state, like yours. Thats the reason of all this...:D

My Cinebench scores drop by a minimum of 500 points if I do anything with PBO except setting all the values to 0 and leave the setting at "Enabled" with my 3900X.
 
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Ah ok I see now. Thanks!
 
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My Cinebench scores drop by a minimum of 500 points if I do anything with PBO except setting all the values to 0 and leave the setting at "Enabled" with my 3900X.
Anything as? And from what menu? AMD CBS or AMD Overclocking? And when you changed settings in one how the other was configured?
Did you try to reduce only EDC? (I suggest doing it from AMD CBS -> XFR Enhancement -> Accepted -> PBO -> Manual, while PBO in AMD Overclocking is Auto)
And you have to know the actual EDC value that your CPU is hitting in order to reduce it for real. The 3800X has EDC limit 140A if not mistaken. When the CPU is running all core 100% load like CB-R20 where that actual value go? (see in HWiNFO sensors only mode)
 
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Anything as? And from what menu? AMD CBS or AMD Overclocking? And when you changed settings in one how the other was configured?
Did you try to reduce only EDC? (I suggest doing it from AMD CBS -> XFR Enhancement -> Accepted -> PBO -> Manual, while PBO in AMD Overclocking is Auto)
And you have to know the actual EDC value that your CPU is hitting in order to reduce it for real. The 3800X has EDC limit 140A if not mistaken. When the CPU is running all core 100% load like CB-R20 where that actual value go? (see in HWiNFO sensors only mode)

Just for reference when PBO is not enabled my EDC hits 109 amps on R20 with 3800x on x470 for 4966 points. (Not anywhere near the 140A default limit.)
 
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Just for reference when PBO is not enabled my EDC hits 109 amps on R20 with 3800x on x470 for 4966 points. (Not anywhere near the 140A default limit.)
You have PBO disabled or Auto? Leave it auto in both AMD CBS, AMD Overclocking and see...
That’s why I said you have to know the actual number EDC is hitting. so if you have headroom in EDC you must be capped by PPT. How is the PPT/TDC when EDC is 109A?
 
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PBO is currently disabled. My bios recently came out of beta so I have a chance to revisit PBO and see if AGESA 1.0.0.4 Patch B makes any difference. Last time I tried PBO was around the time of that GN article and I had pretty much the same conclusion that PBO was basically not worth it and I didn't feel I got any effectiveness from it.

I have some headroom for PPT, TDC, and EDC however I suspect the limiter is temperature.

Here is a result before and after running CB20.

I'll try some more tests later today.
 
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YUKSHAMIASH!!! What a hard build to install an o/s on!!! This has got to be the most finicky build I've ever done. Good thing it's for me and not a client. AMD is renewing my regard for Intel lemmie tell ya.
We want the details... :D
 
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YUKSHAMIASH!!! What a hard build to install an o/s on!!! This has got to be the most finicky build I've ever done. Good thing it's for me and not a client. AMD is renewing my regard for Intel lemmie tell ya.

Is that Windows 7 still?
 
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Software Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint
Benchmark Scores 3.91 GHz on this. Happy with it as it is. Not a gaming rig.
I've been building PCs for nearly two decades now. I can't begin to say how many systems I've built in my life time. Yeah, I'm an old geek in his 60's. That doesn't mean I have to be put out to pasture. In all my days of PC building I've never encountered anything like this. Admittedly, I'm no system's analyst. I'm just not anal enough to be one. But this one takes the cake. So I probably should start a new thread to stay in topic because this. . . Is something "other".

Is that Windows 7 still?

I wish I could install Win 7 on that thing. Wow. That would really be something, hey?


We want the details... :D

You want the details? Free free to start asking :)

 
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System Name My Little Bad Boy
Processor i7 6900K
Motherboard ASUS X99 E WS USB 3.1
Cooling By Noctua
Memory 128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR
Video Card(s) EVGA GEFORCE GTX 1070 FTW
Storage Many TB's of storage of all kinds
Display(s) ASUS 27" Monitor
Case Thermal Take Level 10 GT
Audio Device(s) onboard sound
Power Supply Corsair Platinum HX1000i
Mouse I use whatever mouse works best at the time. I have dozens
Keyboard LOGITECH PRODIGY keyboard
Software Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 8.1 Pro, Linux Mint
Benchmark Scores 3.91 GHz on this. Happy with it as it is. Not a gaming rig.
Details, details... But not about RAM. I gotta say this RAM is probably the best bang for the buck RAM I've ever purchased. Alas, the build did not go off without a hitch and boy, do I have details on that one. I had to go rogue to get the system up and running. ASUS wanted me to RMA the board but I'm sure most of you know how that one rolls. Feel free to ask me about it on the Issues thread. There's someone there I need to thank about giving me a clue about what to do to avoid returning my system board. But hey, I don't want to do all the chatting – especially here, where this thread is supposed to be about RAM.
 
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