Buy (xtx or 4080s) or wait

[compromised48]

Hi everyone,

I got myself a 9800x3d and put up an am5 build.
I currently have a 5700xt that I would like to upgrade.
I’m torn between the 7900xtx or the 4080super and I don’t know what the right move would be here. Should I go for one of these 2? Should I wait for the 5000series, whose prices might skyrocket.
I found one refurbished xtx 870€ and one 4080s for 1090€. Which one could be more future proofed? It is not 100% that the new fsr will come to the 7000 series, on the other hand dlss 4 is available to 40 series. But the 16gigs of ram is underwhelming…

I also have a 750w psu which I hope can handle the xtx

Let me know what you guys think!
Thanks a lot

 

[mama]

Both good cards. Just get the best priced in your area. 750W may be light on however.

 

[Macro Device]

It's obscene how FSR is behind DLSS at this point. At 4K, DLSS Performance (Transformer model) looks better than FSR at 100% scaling, also providing about double (or more) the performance. RT performance of 7900 XTX is also nothing to write home about. So unless you're gonna play raster-only titles where no DLSS is present (then your 5700 XT is enough anyway lmao) or VRAM hogs, 4080 is an obvious answer. Also don't worry about VRAM if you're playing at 1080p. 16 GB is a lot for this resolution.

There's very little reason to wait for lower tier Blackwells, they ain't gonna be significantly better. Might consider them 4070 refresh, 4070 Ti Super Duper, and 4080 Super Duper.
FSR4 is not going to happen on RDNA3. Unless you're willing to wait for a couple decades until these snails come up with an implementation (which won't work properly anyway).
RDNA4 is not going to bring any significant perf/$ uplift, either. AMD would've released it ages ago if they wanted to provide at least some progress.
Frame generation is kinda silly, I hate it on both AMD and NVIDIA.

 

[compromised48]

forgot to mention this but I play on a 1440p but plan to upgrade to a uw monitor. 5700xt kind of struggles right now.
I get that the new series aren’t going to be much better than the current series, but I’m not sure now is the right time to buy GPUs before the new releases, the prices might come down or go up

 

[Ozzer]

Hi everyone,

I got myself a 9800x3d and put up an am5 build.
I currently have a 5700xt that I would like to upgrade.
I’m torn between the 7900xtx or the 4080super and I don’t know what the right move would be here. Should I go for one of these 2? Should I wait for the 5000series, whose prices might skyrocket.
I found one refurbished xtx 870€ and one 4080s for 1090€. Which one could be more future proofed? It is not 100% that the new fsr will come to the 7000 series, on the other hand dlss 4 is available to 40 series. But the 16gigs of ram is underwhelming…

I also have a 750w psu which I hope can handle the xtx

Let me know what you guys think!
Thanks a lot

If you want to play with RT go with the 4080S otherwise the XTX is a better deal price/performance.
P.S. I think AMD will backport FSR 4 to at least the top tier RDNA 3 cards, MAYBE won't have the same perfomance but it will work

 

[Toothless]

XTX on my 3440x1440 is fantastic. Got to bench my friend's 4080s and they perform pretty much the same. XTX if you don't need raytracing is the way to go.

 

[Denver]

If rumors are anything to go by... 9070XT will offer performance very close to these GPUs for much less, wouldn't it be better to wait? There's also the fact that with new gen entering the market, the 7xxx and 4xxx series will end up at a nice discount

 

[compromised48]

If rumors are anything to go by... 9070XT will offer performance very close to these GPUs for much less, wouldn't it be better to wait? There's also the fact that with new gen entering the market, the 7xxx and 4xxx series will end up at a nice discount

Well the 7xxx and 4xxx series going for sale is not guaranteed, the scalpers might get all the new series and those old series are not getting produced anymore which will in turn lead to higher prices. That could be one case

 

[Macro Device]

the prices might come down or go up

Unlikely to change. Give or take 5 or ma-a-a-aybe 8 percent shift throughout 2025. Wanna buy today, do it today, you're not missing out on anything but MFG (questionable feature anyway) and AI performance (you don't seem bothered, too).

9070XT will offer performance very close to these GPUs for much less

But it won't. Discount (if to happen) will be subtle.

 

[Zach_01]

Hi everyone,

I got myself a 9800x3d and put up an am5 build.
I currently have a 5700xt that I would like to upgrade.
I’m torn between the 7900xtx or the 4080super and I don’t know what the right move would be here. Should I go for one of these 2? Should I wait for the 5000series, whose prices might skyrocket.
I found one refurbished xtx 870€ and one 4080s for 1090€. Which one could be more future proofed? It is not 100% that the new fsr will come to the 7000 series, on the other hand dlss 4 is available to 40 series. But the 16gigs of ram is underwhelming…

I also have a 750w psu which I hope can handle the xtx

Let me know what you guys think!
Thanks a lot

I also have UW 3440x1440 and had a 5700XT.
Switched to XTX a year+ ago and I’m happy with the card.
If I was on the market right now I would wait to see what the new GPUs are offering and how prices are going to be on the first couple of weeks.

There is a chance that FSR4 will come to 7900XT/XTX and if yes will probably be not fully featured as RDNA4 has dedicated hardware for FSR4.
AMDs priority now is RDNA4/FSR4. If indeed there is a chance for the XTX to have some “lighter” version of FSR4 I wouldn’t expect it to come soon.

I want to keep the XTX at least 3 more years. Had the 5700XT for 4years.

I have a 750W platinum PSU.
My system is the following and it’s avg power consumption during gaming depends on the game.
From the latest games I’ve played the most heavy on power was CP2077.

Avg Power
5900X: 110W
7900XTX: 350W (TBP: 382W)

My PSU has monitoring capability on output power and running CP2077 I’ve seen avg power of total system about 500~520W with peak at 600~620W

So if you’re going to use a 750W PSU it better be good to handle 70-80% load.
I keep the XTX limit between 365~382W (max is 467W) as past 380-390W the performance gain is very small for all the additional heat and stress. Plus I want to also keep PSU from going to absolute limit.
I’ve undervolted the GPU from default 1150mV to 1050~1070mV (depending on game).

Allegedly the 9070XT raw performance (at ~300W) will land between the XT/XTX by avg, but with RT on, perf is higher than the XTX by 20-50% depending the game and the use of FSR.

I hope at least AMD will have an adequate inventory for launch, because with RTX5000 things are not looking good. GPUs, new and old, can skyrocket prices pretty fast.

 

[Denver]

Unlikely to change. Give or take 5 or ma-a-a-aybe 8 percent shift throughout 2025. Wanna buy today, do it today, you're not missing out on anything but MFG (questionable feature anyway) and AI performance (you don't seem bothered, too).

But it won't. Discount (if to happen) will be subtle.

My crystal ball still doesn't say that with much certainty.

Perhaps... this leak worth anything? If the standard 9070XT performs nearly as well as the XTX, the value of the 7XXX series will collapse.

 

[Macro Device]

If the standard 9070XT performs nearly as well as the XTX, the value of the 7XXX series will collapse.

It's more likely to be priced just as highly as it's humanly possible. Say, it ends up beating 7900 XT and trailing behind 7900 XTX. That'll place it around 670 to 700 USD and nothing collapses, it's just another AMD GPU with a huge "why" on its face. If they ACTUALLY were to declare a price war we'd already have seen 7900 XTX going for 5 hundred.

 

[Hereticbar]

DLSS 4 is a game changer.

I have been testing and playing with the latest DLSS 4 Transformer model upscaling for the last couple of days, and it is amazing. I usually play my games at ultrawide 3440x1440 with DLAA, if I need upscaling I usually set DLSS at quality and it is pretty good on the old CNN model. For me DLSS balance, performance and ultra-performance just have too much artifacts, ghosting etc.

Having tried the new Transformer model in games like Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, Cyberpunk 2070, Last of Us Part 1 and Red Dead Redemption 2, I can hardly tell the difference between quality and balance. The impressive thing is it can only get better with time and maybe better drivers.

 

[Denver]

It's more likely to be priced just as highly as it's humanly possible. Say, it ends up beating 7900 XT and trailing behind 7900 XTX. That'll place it around 670 to 700 USD and nothing collapses, it's just another AMD GPU with a huge "why" on its face. If they ACTUALLY were to declare a price war we'd already have seen 7900 XTX going for 5 hundred.

Price wars aren't won by burning cash and selling at a loss—that's just digging a hole under your own feet, making it increasingly harder to climb out.

They're won through strategic efficiency, as Zen demonstrated. Modular architecture enables cost optimization, allowing for higher core counts across all market segments without sacrificing profitability. The competition simply can't keep up without bleeding money.

With the 9xxx series, AMD likely squeezed margins to the absolute limit—leveraging affordable, widely available GDDR6 chips, an medium-sized monolithic die, and pushing clock speeds to their breaking point to extract every drop of performance from the silicon. On top of that, they’re probably fine-tuning the driver like there's no tomorrow.

As for the 9070XT, I expect it to land somewhere between $500 and $600. I think it's a realistic price.

 

[rv8000]

I have both, if you don’t care for RT or don’t use it > 7900XTX is the better card for the money. If you want to play heavy rt games (cp 2077, alan wake etc…) > 4080.

 

[evernessince]

It's more likely to be priced just as highly as it's humanly possible. Say, it ends up beating 7900 XT and trailing behind 7900 XTX. That'll place it around 670 to 700 USD and nothing collapses, it's just another AMD GPU with a huge "why" on its face. If they ACTUALLY were to declare a price war we'd already have seen 7900 XTX going for 5 hundred.

I would say that's still vastly better than a 7900 XTX. Much lower power consumption, improved FSR (and AI performance), and vastly improved RT.

It'll essentially be a 5070 Ti in all regards but it'll have more VRAM. Can't say I want the pricing to remain the same but even at the same pricing it's just an upgrade all around.

 

[Redwoodz]

It's more likely to be priced just as highly as it's humanly possible. Say, it ends up beating 7900 XT and trailing behind 7900 XTX. That'll place it around 670 to 700 USD and nothing collapses, it's just another AMD GPU with a huge "why" on its face. If they ACTUALLY were to declare a price war we'd already have seen 7900 XTX going for 5 hundred.

Regardless of your opinions, not facts, one thing you can be sure it's price will be inline with it's performance.

 

[Bomby569]

wait for amd cards pricing and the other nvidia cards, not far off, Get old cards only if the deal is insane

 

[dgianstefani]

Hi everyone,

I got myself a 9800x3d and put up an am5 build.
I currently have a 5700xt that I would like to upgrade.
I’m torn between the 7900xtx or the 4080super and I don’t know what the right move would be here. Should I go for one of these 2? Should I wait for the 5000series, whose prices might skyrocket.
I found one refurbished xtx 870€ and one 4080s for 1090€. Which one could be more future proofed? It is not 100% that the new fsr will come to the 7000 series, on the other hand dlss 4 is available to 40 series. But the 16gigs of ram is underwhelming…

I also have a 750w psu which I hope can handle the xtx

Let me know what you guys think!
Thanks a lot

Wait for RTX 5080 in a week.

Currently FSR Quality can't even keep up with DLSS 3 Balanced.

DLSS 4 transformer Quality looks better than native, and AMD has nothing that can touch that or DLAA.

 

[eidairaman1]

Give it a rest will ya

 

[evernessince]

DLSS 4 transformer Quality looks better than native, and AMD has nothing that can touch that or DLAA.

Eh, you made the same claim about DLSS 3 and Nvidia just publicly shat all over that by pointing out all the artifacts that it adds when promoting their new DLSS 4.

I'm sure the same will apply for DLSS 5 as well, given AI will continue to advance.

 

[dgianstefani]

Eh, you made the same claim about DLSS 3 and Nvidia just publicly shat all over that by pointing out all the artifacts that it adds when promoting their new DLSS 4.

I'm sure the same will apply for DLSS 5 as well, given AI will continue to advance.

With Blackwell, NVIDIA is introducing a "Transformers" upscaling model for DLSS, which is a major improvement over the previous "CNN" model. I tested Transformers and I'm in love. The image quality is so good, "Quality" looks like native, sometimes better. There is no more flickering or low-res smeared out textures on the horizon. Thin wires are crystal clear, even at sub-4K resolution! You really have to see it for yourself to appreciate it, it's almost like magic.

Pixel peeking at stills will show you things you don't see in gameplay.

 

[Macro Device]

It'll essentially be a 5070 Ti in all regards but it'll have more VRAM.

So, 16 GB 256-bit GDDR6 is better than 16 GB 256-bit GDDR7?

Much lower power consumption

Not sure about that. Some leaks point at 330 W, some, at 260 W. The former is a hair lower, the latter is significant but still doesn't qualify as "much."

vastly improved RT

Totally not the case. It's improved, sure, but "vastly" is not a word.

improved FSR

Too long overdue.

I expect it to land somewhere between $500 and $600. I think it's a realistic price.

ONLY if it trails behind 5070 Ti in everything.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hi everyone,

I got myself a 9800x3d and put up an am5 build.
I currently have a 5700xt that I would like to upgrade.
I’m torn between the 7900xtx or the 4080super and I don’t know what the right move would be here. Should I go for one of these 2? Should I wait for the 5000series, whose prices might skyrocket.
I found one refurbished xtx 870€ and one 4080s for 1090€. Which one could be more future proofed? It is not 100% that the new fsr will come to the 7000 series, on the other hand dlss 4 is available to 40 series. But the 16gigs of ram is underwhelming…

I also have a 750w psu which I hope can handle the xtx

Let me know what you guys think!
Thanks a lot

Wait for the new Radeon, Geforce and ARC cards to launch. The launch season isn't over. AMD is working on the RX9000 series, NVidia has yet to release the RTX5080/RTX5070 and Intel has yet to release the ARC B7XX cards. Wait until April to make a serious upgrade choice unless you need something now.

Well the 7xxx and 4xxx series going for sale is not guaranteed

Oh, they will. Scalpers will try, but once the full release of cards happens, they will get the smack down they deserve. Previous gen cards will come down in price.

 

[compromised48]

Thanks a lot for replying to all of you.
I will wait to see what the new series on each side will provide.
I’m inclined to go for team green for the improved upscaling (in some games the fsr has too much ghosting and bad details at 1440p) although the 16 gigs of vram are a disgrace for that gpu..but you can’t win them all