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Pixel peeking at stills will show you things you don't see in gameplay.

You'd don't need to be pixel peeping to see the artifacts and over-sharpening:

The community has already pointed out the issues DLSS 4 has with handling foliage and it tends to also cause issues with adding banding to volumetric effects (you can see this in both the upscaler and frame-gen).

Mind you the over-sharpening was pretty obvious from the first clips Nvidia presented of DLSS4. The wood grain texture on the table in Alan wake in the clip they presented looked like it was popping out of the table with how oversharpened it was. The new model clearly is focused on details but that comes at the cost of realism when in fact not all surfaces should have the details front and center. Looking at objects from an angle, that are poorly lit, or that are under intense light may obscure detail in real life. It's odd too, transformer models can be very good at generating lighting but I suppose Nvidia's model has to be very lightweight.

Overall it is an improvement but the only time it's better than native is when native presentation is poorly done, which in an of itself DLSS is partly to blame as devs get lazy and rely on it as a crutch to avoid optimizing their games. It's crazy that the visual presentation of many AAA titles from 2016 look so much cleaner than AAA games now. It's an unstable visual mess.
 
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Hi everyone,

I got myself a 9800x3d and put up an am5 build.
I currently have a 5700xt that I would like to upgrade.
I’m torn between the 7900xtx or the 4080super and I don’t know what the right move would be here. Should I go for one of these 2? Should I wait for the 5000series, whose prices might skyrocket.
I found one refurbished xtx 870€ and one 4080s for 1090€. Which one could be more future proofed? It is not 100% that the new fsr will come to the 7000 series, on the other hand dlss 4 is available to 40 series. But the 16gigs of ram is underwhelming…

I also have a 750w psu which I hope can handle the xtx

Let me know what you guys think!
Thanks a lot

Thanks a lot for replying to all of you.
I will wait to see what the new series on each side will provide.
I’m inclined to go for team green for the improved upscaling (in some games the fsr has too much ghosting and bad details at 1440p) although the 16 gigs of vram are a disgrace for that gpu..but you can’t win them all

It is good to wait for the 2nm (or 3nm) cards, but given how much AMD likes to screw the market, it is a very-high-risk initiative.
If you bought the RX 6800 XT back in 2020, now you would have gotten a golden card which will serve you at least 5 years more from this moment.

There is simply no reason, logic or sense to wait for something which doesn't deliver a worthy performance upgrade.

Placeholder RX 9700 XT performance:

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