Buying a new PC urgently

Hyderz · Jan 18, 2022

if i do buy a new gaming pc, id get i5 12600k, 32gb ram ddr4/5 dont matter, and a rtx 3080ti

bug · Jan 18, 2022

cst1992 said:
The 5600x is actually my choice - it's not very expensive as compared to what it is in the US.

At about INR 24,000 it's equivalent to roughly $320, an amount which I am prepared to pay. My only concern is that if I go for it, will it be competitive with future i5s and Ryzens?

It's not a slow CPU by any means, but 12600k beats it today.

damric · Jan 18, 2022

AM4 B450 +5700G all the way.

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

damric said:
AM4 B450 +5700G all the way.

I disagree with this, OP already has a 3060 ti, ipgu will be useless. better to get max frames, and that would be with the 12600k (assuming he can find a decently priced mobo and the 12600k is no more than $50 more than the 5600x)

cst1992 · Jan 18, 2022

bug said:
It's not a slow CPU by any means, but 12600k beats it today.

By how much? Because it's 25% more expensive, just for the CPU. I'm sure a Z6xx series motherboard won't be cheap either. Would I be able to find one for <$250?

lynx29 said:
the 12600k is no more than $50 more than the 5600x

5600X $320; 12600k $400.

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

cst1992 said:
By how much? Because it's 25% more expensive, just for the CPU. I'm sure a Z6xx series motherboard won't be cheap either. Would I be able to find one for <$250?

5600X $320; 12600k $400.

$80 isn't much honestly, assuming you can get a mobo at a decent price. You have to keep in mind, this is something you will be using for possibly 5-10 years if not longer.

cst1992 · Jan 18, 2022

Hyderz said:
A rtx 3080ti

Ahem... I would like to keep both my kidneys, thanks.

lynx29 said:
$80 isn't much honestly, assuming you can get a mobo at a decent price. You have to keep in mind, this is something you will be using for possibly 5-10 years if not longer.

I don't want to go with Windows 11 right now. Is that going to be necessary for Alder Lake?

oxrufiioxo · Jan 18, 2022

cst1992 said:
Ahem... I would like to keep both my kidneys, thanks.

I don't want to go with Windows 11 right now. Is that going to be necessary for Alder Lake?

No, check gamers nexus all their testing is done on 10. Regardless of platform you'll want to be on windows 10 at a min anyways.

Space Lynx · Jan 18, 2022

cst1992 said:
Ahem... I would like to keep both my kidneys, thanks.

I don't want to go with Windows 11 right now. Is that going to be necessary for Alder Lake?

win 10 support ends in 2025 (i think). so you will have to go to win 11 then.

mama · Jan 18, 2022

Ryzen 5000 is the stable platform at the moment.

bug · Jan 18, 2022

cst1992 said:
By how much? Because it's 25% more expensive, just for the CPU. I'm sure a Z6xx series motherboard won't be cheap either. Would I be able to find one for <$250?

You couldn't be bothered to look, could you? https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-12600k-alder-lake-12th-gen/23.html

cst1992 said:
5600X $320; 12600k $400.

That sucks for you, 12600k is cheaper in most places (that's what makes it such on obvious buy). If you could give it a month, chances are prices will settle down over there, too.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jan 19, 2022

cst1992 said:
By how much? Because it's 25% more expensive, just for the CPU. I'm sure a Z6xx series motherboard won't be cheap either. Would I be able to find one for <$250?

5600X $320; 12600k $400.

What resolution and frame rate would you be gaming at ,it might not matter that much either way.
10 doesn't support ADL as well, I think.

Why_Me · Jan 19, 2022

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oxrufiioxo · Jan 19, 2022

Why_Me said:
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Intel Core i5-12400F ₹16,999 / $228 USD

Still seems like the better bet.... I would get a decent B660 board and call it.... 5600X definitely isn't worth 100 usd over it.

Why_Me · Jan 19, 2022

oxrufiioxo said:
Still seems like the better bet.... I would get a decent B660 board and call it.... 5600X definitely isn't worth 100 usd over it.

This ^^ that extra $100 can be put towards a set of RAM and/or cpu cooler.

eidairaman1 · Feb 2, 2022

cst1992 said:
Ahem... I would like to keep both my kidneys, thanks.

I don't want to go with Windows 11 right now. Is that going to be necessary for Alder Lake?

Yes

Atomic77 · Feb 6, 2022

Hmm at this point I would not go much better than what I currently have. My Laptop is 1 year old and my desktop is still really new.

eidairaman1 · Feb 6, 2022

oxrufiioxo said:
Still seems like the better bet.... I would get a decent B660 board and call it.... 5600X definitely isn't worth 100 usd over it.

So get a 5800 OEM for $262 like I did

Selaya · Feb 6, 2022

unless you buy one of the SKUs w/ E-cores ADL will work perfectly fine w/ 10.

Recca29 · Feb 6, 2022

Buy a second hand 5600x : ~20K.
Get a new Asrock B550, it should cost about ~11K.

cst1992 · Feb 6, 2022

CallandorWoT said:
10 cores and 16 threads? am i reading that right? i don't know much about alder lake but that seems weird to me on the numbers.

The i5 and the 5600x are both 6-core CPUs, but the i5 has 4 efficiency cores.

So it comes out to 10(6+4) cores and 16(12+4) threads. Efficiency cores do not support hyperthreading.

Space Lynx · Feb 6, 2022

cst1992 said:
Efficiency cores do not support hyperthreading.

This is what I did not understand, thanks.

oxrufiioxo · Feb 6, 2022

Why_Me said:
No it doesn't.

Intel® Core™ i5-12400F Processor (18M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) Product Specifications

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Pretty sure he is referencing the 12600k not the 12400F at least that's how I took it.

bug · Feb 7, 2022

Selaya said:
unless you buy one of the SKUs w/ E-cores ADL will work perfectly fine w/ 10.

You can buy an SKU with E-cores, disable them and you'll still be fine. Not very smart, but that's what I did.

Selaya · Feb 7, 2022

i mean you can do that too but why not just buy one w/o? The only SKU that doesn't have an E-core less counterpart's the 12700(K) ...

System Name	Custom
Processor	i9 9900k
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 arous master
Cooling	corsair h150i
Memory	4x8 3200mhz corsair
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Storage	500gb Samsung 970 Evo PLus
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Case	Lian Li Pc-011 Dynamic
Audio Device(s)	Arctis Pro Wireless
Power Supply	850w Seasonic Focus Platinum
Mouse	Logitech G403
Keyboard	Logitech G110

Processor	Intel i5-12600k
Motherboard	Asus H670 TUF
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Storage	500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500
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Case	Raijintek Thetis
Audio Device(s)	Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D
Power Supply	Seasonic 620W M12
Mouse	Logitech G502 Proteus Core
Keyboard	G.Skill KM780R
Software	Arch Linux + Win10

System Name	Main
Processor	Ryzen 5950x
Motherboard	B550 PG Velocita
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Memory	Ballistix
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Power Supply	LEADEX V 1KW
Mouse	Cooler Master MM710
Keyboard	Huntsman Elite
Software	11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	https://hwbot.org/user/damric/

System Name	The Sparing-No-Expense Build
Processor	Ryzen 5 5600X
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Cooling	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black
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Case	Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO White
Power Supply	Seasonic X-650 Gold PSU (SS-650KM3)
Software	Windows 11 Home 64-bit

System Name	The Sparing-No-Expense Build
Processor	Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Wifi II
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black
Memory	32GB: 2x16GB Patriot Viper Steel 3600MHz C18
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA RTX 3060Ti Founder's Edition
Storage	500GB 970 Evo Plus NVMe, 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s)	AOC C24G1 144Hz 24" 1080p Monitor
Case	Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO White
Power Supply	Seasonic X-650 Gold PSU (SS-650KM3)
Software	Windows 11 Home 64-bit

Buying a new PC urgently

If you had to buy a computer tomorrow, which one would you go for?

AMD 5000 series

AMD R7 5800X3D

Intel Alder Lake

Older AMD and/or Intel

Hyderz

bug

damric

Space Lynx

Astronaut

cst1992

Space Lynx

Astronaut

cst1992

oxrufiioxo

Space Lynx

Astronaut

mama

bug

TheoneandonlyMrK

Why_Me

Intel Core i5-12400F 12th Gen Alder Lake 6-Core 2.5 GHz LGA 1700 Desktop Processor BX8071512400F

oxrufiioxo

Intel Core i5-12400F 12th Gen Alder Lake 6-Core 2.5 GHz LGA 1700 Desktop Processor BX8071512400F

Why_Me

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Atomic77

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman

Selaya

Recca29

cst1992

Space Lynx

Astronaut

oxrufiioxo

Intel® Core™ i5-12400F Processor (18M Cache, up to 4.40 GHz) Product Specifications

bug

Selaya

System Name	His & Hers
Processor	R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock
Motherboard	X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
Cooling	Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum
Memory	Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk
Video Card(s)	Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090
Storage	lots of SSD.
Display(s)	A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS.....
Case	011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X
Audio Device(s)	Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B
Power Supply	Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard	Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro

System Name	1. Glasshouse 2. Odin OneEye
Processor	1. Ryzen 9 5900X (manual PBO) 2. Ryzen 9 7900X
Motherboard	1. MSI x570 Tomahawk wifi 2. Gigabyte Aorus Extreme 670E
Cooling	1. Noctua NH D15 Chromax Black 2. Custom Loop 3x360mm (60mm) rads & T30 fans/Aquacomputer NEXT w/b
Memory	1. G Skill Neo 16GBx4 (3600MHz 16/16/16/36) 2. Kingston Fury 16GBx2 DDR5 CL36
Video Card(s)	1. Asus Strix Vega 64 2. Powercolor Liquid Devil 7900XTX
Storage	1. Corsair Force MP600 (1TB) & Sabrent Rocket 4 (2TB) 2. Kingston 3000 (1TB) and Hynix p41 (2TB)
Display(s)	1. Samsung U28E590 10bit 4K@60Hz 2. LG C2 42 inch 10bit 4K@120Hz
Case	1. Corsair Crystal 570X White 2. Cooler Master HAF 700 EVO
Audio Device(s)	1. Creative Speakers 2. Built in LG monitor speakers
Power Supply	1. Corsair RM850x 2. Superflower Titanium 1600W
Mouse	1. Microsoft IntelliMouse Pro (grey) 2. Microsoft IntelliMouse Pro (black)
Keyboard	Leopold High End Mechanical
Software	Windows 11

System Name	RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor	Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard	Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling	360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory	Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s)	Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060
Storage	Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s)	Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case	Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s)	Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply	corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse	Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard	Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD	Oculus rift
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506

System Name	PCGOD
Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

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Processor	11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz / Ryzen 5 3500u
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Storage	1TB +SSD
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Mouse	Dell Wireless /LOGITECH
Keyboard	Dell Wireless / HP LAPTOP
Software	WINDOWS 11

Processor	Ryzen 1700 (3.75 GHz)
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Cooling	Corsair Hydro H100x + 3x120MM fans
Memory	32 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600Mhz @3000MHz (CL16)
Video Card(s)	Asrock 6600XT 8GB
Storage	Samsung 960 EVO 250GB Nvme + 2TB HDD + 2 x 1TB HDD + 480GB Crucial MX500 SSD
Display(s)	Acer Nitro VG270P IPS 27 inch 144 Hz - Full HD
Case	Deepcool Dukase v3
Audio Device(s)	On Board
Power Supply	Corsair 600X
Mouse	Logitech mx 518
Keyboard	Logitech K230
Software	Windows 10 Pro

Buying a new PC urgently

If you had to buy a computer *tomorrow*, which one would you go for?

AMD 5000 series

AMD R7 5800X3D

Intel Alder Lake

Older AMD and/or Intel

Astronaut

Astronaut

Astronaut

The Exiled Airman

The Exiled Airman

Astronaut

If you had to buy a computer tomorrow, which one would you go for?