butchandmungo
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I would be more than happy with 30 fps in any if the games i mentioned. I have seen performance figures of the 8600g on youtube and they sat around 40 fps, so i suspect you are bang on the money!What is your performance target? I ran TWWH 1 on a basic Intel iGPU and it was reasonably stable at 30 FPS. An 8500G should be sufficient for that.
Certainly will do. I imagine it will take a while as i plan to build whilst i go to college, but would love to show off the finished product!And please do come back to show us what you did with the van, and ultimately what was your choice for a gaming rig.![]()
Ahh get ya, makes sense.@butchandmungo
it wasnt about engine load, but (fuel) efficiency at higher hwy speeds.
you sure you want lipos for storage? even a small 2Ah would turn your camper into a nordic steam bath with fireworks.
check for marine/car audio batteries that allow for deep cycle, something like AGMs (Optima).
also makes charging a little easier, as you dont need an expensive controller, and with agm no venting needed.
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I have compared at agm and lithium ion batteries, and lithium came out on top because and agm is too expensive for the voltage/Ah.
You can get 3x 100Ah no name chinese junk batteries off ebay for £300 or so, but the quality batteries are around that for just 1. A set of 4x 3.2v 280Ah lipo are approx £300 and come with loads of reviews on diysolar forums.
Plus the life cycles of lithium ion completely overshadow any other battery technology and i will be using them daily, so that is a massive factor too.
That UM773 looks bloody great for the money and laptop efficient to boot! Thank you for the tip.I agree with others that a laptop is the way to go for maximum total performance/Watt.
If you hate laptops, and want the flexibility of separate peripherals, take a look at the Minisforum AMD APU-based mini-PCs. They're not crazy powerful but they use laptop parts so they're way more efficient than building something like an 8500G on a desktop board.
I have some UM773Lite models which would probably do everything you want to do on a low budget. I use them behind wall-mounted TVs in meeting rooms and configure them down to 15W but they're pretty capable light gaming machines if you pick 35-45W cTDP in the BIOS.
The fastest newest model is their EliteMini AI370 using AMD's flagship notebook APU (Strix Point) and I can pick one up in the UK for £1029 with 32GB and 1TB SSD.
These miniPCs aren't really any different to laptops of similar spec, but the form factor and flexibility in peripherals might work for you in the camper van where a laptop doesn't do it for you.
Also Jarrod, he seems to cover more laptops than most people:
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Tbh you have sent me down a rabbithole with mini pc's in general. I was aware they exsisted, but i really am amazed at the power they can cram into such a small formfactor.
Again like laptops they are unfortunately not upgradable, apart from ram and storage, but the ecosystem looks so much more consumer friendly compared to laptops, which are just rip offs imo.
Will also check out jarrods youtube. Thanks again
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Damn that is running really well, and the 1% lows are not all over the place so vram seems to be under control too.Hey mate, I think that the 1650 should do just fine for Warhammer, check out this Vid!
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The 1650 should not be underestimate lol.
Definitely another bit of food for thought considering how cheap they are these days too!
Nice one man
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Don't worry im not confused at all, all suggestions are appreciatedStop confusing him!
Lipo is not a li-ion chemistry but merely a construction format the cell is made in. Since he will no doubt be forced to go Lifepo4 if he chooses lithium/lithium-ion, that is a fairly safe chemistry to use (from a fundamental chemistry level). No lithium 12V battery (Lifepo4) in offgrid apps goes up in fireworks.
Since he hasn't mentioned how long he will be offgrid or his power consumption you cant just recommend him any battery. AGM optima are not for real offgrid and are for 4x4ing and have a poor cycle life and size.
The AGM to go for is one with a cycle life of 1000-1500cyles to 50% depth of discharge.
What he needs to consider is:
1: first calculate his total power consumption,
2: realize he may very well need to shave off as much as possible,
3: how long will he be offgrid for at a time?
4: his battery and solar budget,
5: what chemistry? i.e space and weight considerations lead acid vs lithium,
6: how many days of runtime or how big should the battery capacity be? 1.5 days minimum? 5 days to give a nice big buffer in bad weather?
7: how to recharge the battery when it's cloudy for many days? Maybe add vehicle charging aswell.
8: due to limitations in solar efficiency and roof space, does he need portable panels aswell? as portable can be better focused at the sun.
9: understand the dangers of electrical faults and poor electrical work that can lead to fires.
As others have said a laptop is the way to go, you can take it outside on a park bench or have it on your bed etc. I would use an external monitor, keyboard and mouse for a dekstop setup too.
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If i weren't to be using it all the time any old cheap leisure battery would probably have done fine, but as you say the lifecycles are just too low for continual use.
Safety wise i am planning on going completely overkill with fuses and kill switches, plus a grounded 1/4" steel box with smoke sensors to house the cells. Should be okay just in case.
In relation to your list, yea there are quite a few things still on the drawing board but at this stage im trying to get the basics in order and make a plan. I mean, can't possibly live in a van without a gaming setup!!!
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You are along the right tracks, apart from it will be a 12v system, not 240v and the last equation would just be in hours as the "A"s cancel out.Is the math as simple as 1KW @ 240V = 4.17A, and 280Ah/4.17A = 67KWh? (minus some inverter losses, presumably)?
So worked out in 12v it would be: 1kw @ 12v = 83.3A, so 280Ah/83.3A = 3.36 hours, or about 200 minutes of continual use.