• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Can a GTX 1650 run on a 240W PSU?

Joined
Sep 14, 2020
Messages
600 (0.38/day)
Location
Greece
System Name Office / HP Prodesk 490 G3 MT (ex-office)
Processor Intel 13700 (90° limit) / Intel i7-6700
Motherboard Asus TUF Gaming H770 Pro / HP 805F H170
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S / Stock
Memory G. Skill Trident XMP 2x16gb DDR5 6400MHz cl32 / Samsung 2x8gb 2133MHz DDR4
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC GDDR6X / Zotac GTX 1650 GDDR6 OC
Storage Samsung 2tb 980 PRO MZ / Samsung SSD 1TB 860 EVO + WD blue HDD 1TB (WD10EZEX)
Display(s) Eizo FlexScan EV2455 - 1920x1200 / Panasonic TX-32LS490E 32'' LED 1920x1080
Case Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro / HP microtower
Audio Device(s) On board
Power Supply Seasonic Prime PX750 / OEM 300W bronze
Mouse MS cheap wired / Logitech cheap wired m90
Keyboard MS cheap wired / HP cheap wired
Software W11 / W7 Pro ->10 Pro
This is a very important point. Given the age of this prebuilt it may not support UEFI, which would immediately rule out pretty much any GPU upgrade.

My honest suggestion would be to try to sell this machine for whatever you can get, and use the cash you get from the sale to buy a cheap AM4 system. Sandy Bridge is so old at this point that any sort of semi-new component you try to put in it will either not work, or be hamstrung in some manner. Not to mention that DDR3 is so old and so scarce that it is now more expensive than DDR4.

As someone who also grew up in a third-world country, there is almost certainly a thriving PC hardware trading community where you'll be able to both flog your prebuilt, and pick up AM4 parts for dirt cheap from those who are upgrading. Even the lowest of low-end AM4 builds (A520 board with 1500X CPU, 16GB DDR4-2133, 450W PSU, random generic case) will be massively faster than your current system, and far more upgradeable.
Usually they support UEFI, but still need BIOS update. I always had one prebuilt at the office, it was somehow mandatory. Right now there is a SFF with i3-2130 at home for the younger kids (it was an emergency buy years ago), I managed to update BIOS and put a 1030 inside. Our older son has the oldest working office PC from Q4 2011, the BIOS update is still pending (his gaming keyboard won't go into BIOS!!), hopefully I'll manage to do the job with a cheap keyboard.
And you are right about the old hardware, our 2130 is slow, even on a SSD. On the other hand the i5-2400 of my old office PC is remarkably fast for its age.
 
Joined
Feb 24, 2023
Messages
3,261 (4.76/day)
Location
Russian Wild West
System Name DLSS / YOLO-PC / FULLRETARD
Processor i5-12400F / 10600KF / C2D E6750
Motherboard Gigabyte B760M DS3H / Z490 Vision D / P5GC-MX/1333
Cooling Laminar RM1 / Gammaxx 400 / 775 Box cooler
Memory 32 GB DDR4-3200 / 16 GB DDR4-3333 / 3 GB DDR2-700
Video Card(s) RX 6700 XT / R9 380 2 GB / 9600 GT
Storage A couple SSDs, m.2 NVMe included / 240 GB CX1 / 500 GB HDD
Display(s) Compit HA2704 / MSi G2712 / non-existent
Case Matrexx 55 / Junkyard special / non-existent
Audio Device(s) Want loud, use headphones. Want quiet, use satellites.
Power Supply Thermaltake 1000 W / Corsair CX650M / non-existent
Mouse Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress...
Keyboard Makes some noise. Probably onto something.
VR HMD I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one.
Software Windows 11 / 10 / 8
First of all, your machine will not outright kaboom upon installing a 1650.
Secondly, your motherboard and RAM are so obsolete you really should consider moving to something newer, low AM4 (Ryzen 1600) or entry-level LGA1200 (i3-10100) at least. This will boost your overall experience a lot.
Thirdly, if you are too poor for anything other than staying on your current platform, check AliExpress for Xeon E3-1200 series CPUs. E3-1240 must be a very reasonable option. Its power draw at max load is hovering just above 50W (real one, not marketed TDP) so you will be fine. But you must keep in mind these Xeons have no integrated GPUs, unless their name is 12x5. I.e. E3-1245 has iGPU, whereas E3-1240 has not.
And lastly, don't forget to undervolt your GTX 1650 if you buy it. It can run at around 55 W at stock or less than 5% loss performance.

NB: Xeon E3-1200 v2 series might need you to update your motherboard BIOS and v3 and newer are incompatible. Only Sandy and Ivy Bridges!
 
Last edited:

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
13,133 (2.98/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name 4K-gaming / console
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-8600K
Motherboard ROG Crosshair VII Hero / ROG Strix Z370-F
Cooling Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240
Memory 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT
Storage 3.5TB of SSDs / several small SSDs
Display(s) Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS
Case Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH
Audio Device(s) Sony WH-CN720N
Power Supply EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s
Keyboard Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD Oculus Rift CV1
Software Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores They run Crysis
Easily with a low-power CPU like an i3-2120. I'd upgrade the CPU though for something beefier as well.
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2019
Messages
13,237 (6.05/day)
Location
Midlands, UK
Processor Various Intel and AMD CPUs
Motherboard Micro-ATX and mini-ITX
Cooling Yes
Memory Anything from 4 to 48 GB
Video Card(s) Various Nvidia and AMD GPUs
Storage A lot
Display(s) Monitors and TVs
Case The smaller the better
Audio Device(s) Speakers and headphones
Power Supply 300 to 750 W, bronze to gold
Mouse Wireless
Keyboard Wired
VR HMD Not yet
Software Linux gaming master race
Easily with a low-power CPU like an i3-2120. I'd upgrade the CPU though for something beefier as well.
Core i7-2600S (or 3770T, if supported) would be my suggestion.
 

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
13,133 (2.98/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name 4K-gaming / console
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-8600K
Motherboard ROG Crosshair VII Hero / ROG Strix Z370-F
Cooling Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240
Memory 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT
Storage 3.5TB of SSDs / several small SSDs
Display(s) Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS
Case Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH
Audio Device(s) Sony WH-CN720N
Power Supply EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s
Keyboard Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD Oculus Rift CV1
Software Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores They run Crysis
Core i7-2600S (or 3770T, if supported) would be my suggestion.
Good choices. Though 3770S is also a 65W chip so it would also be fine and has noticeable higher clocks
 

PoolSchools

New Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2022
Messages
11 (0.01/day)
1. Guys, on the topic of using very low end power supplies and old parts, is it ok to even attempt to use old Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 power supplies on something like a 4th gen i3 or i5 with just the iGPU? People told me its fine to connect a 20 pin ATX to a 24 Pin motherboard, leaving the extra 4 holes empty as long as I dont use a GPU. I have tons of these PSU and want to build an extra system without investing too much.


1689342326380.png
1689342830153.png

2. Also is it worth it paying 45$ extra for a 4C/8T i7 instead of a 4C/4T i5 for 10$? I remember reading somewhere that HT actually hurts performance on almost all games pre 2017 and only a few like Cyberpunk show a noticeable improvement, I also remember watching a video showing an RX 470 outperforming a GTX 1660 Super on an old i5 due to driver overhead, but on an i7, the extra threads made a lot of difference on an Nvidia card, but not on AMD.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,847 (0.80/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software Windows 10 Professional x64
1. Guys, on the topic of using very low end power supplies and old parts, is it ok to even attempt to use old Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 power supplies on something like a 4th gen i3 or i5 with just the iGPU? People told me its fine to connect a 20 pin ATX to a 24 Pin motherboard, leaving the extra 4 holes empty as long as I dont use a GPU. I have tons of these PSU and want to build an extra system without investing too much.


View attachment 304801View attachment 304805
2. Also is it worth it paying 45$ extra for a 4C/8T i7 instead of a 4C/4T i5 for 10$? I remember reading somewhere that HT actually hurts performance on almost all games pre 2017 and only a few like Cyberpunk show a noticeable improvement, I also remember watching a video showing an RX 470 outperforming a GTX 1660 Super on an old i5 due to driver overhead, but on an i7, the extra threads made a lot of difference on an Nvidia card, but not on AMD.
1. Absolutely not, those power supplies are OLD and UNRELIABLE. The best thing you can do with them is send them for recycling. Unless you like blowing up your hard-earned system?
2. Again, you are wasting money upgrading an ancient system. Sell that system and put that money towards a cheap AM4 system.
 
Joined
Sep 26, 2022
Messages
2,193 (2.62/day)
Location
Brazil
System Name G-Station 2.0 "YGUAZU"
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X470 Aorus Gaming 7 WiFi
Cooling Freezemod: Pump, Reservoir, 360mm Radiator, Fittings / Bykski: Blocks / Barrow: Meters
Memory Asgard Bragi DDR4-3600CL14 2x16GB
Video Card(s) Sapphire PULSE RX 7900 XTX
Storage 240GB Samsung 840 Evo, 1TB Asgard AN2, 2TB Hiksemi FUTURE-LITE, 320GB+1TB 7200RPM HDD
Display(s) Samsung 34" Odyssey OLED G8
Case Lian Li Lancool 216
Audio Device(s) Astro A40 TR + MixAmp
Power Supply Cougar GEX X2 1000W
Mouse Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard Razer Huntsman Elite (Red)
Software Windows 11 Pro, Garuda Linux
1. Guys, on the topic of using very low end power supplies and old parts, is it ok to even attempt to use old Pentium 3 and Pentium 4 power supplies on something like a 4th gen i3 or i5 with just the iGPU? People told me its fine to connect a 20 pin ATX to a 24 Pin motherboard, leaving the extra 4 holes empty as long as I dont use a GPU. I have tons of these PSU and want to build an extra system without investing too much.
I wouldn't use such old PSUs irrespective of the power draw of any modern system.
 

Ruru

S.T.A.R.S.
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
13,133 (2.98/day)
Location
Jyväskylä, Finland
System Name 4K-gaming / console
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / Intel Core i7-8600K
Motherboard ROG Crosshair VII Hero / ROG Strix Z370-F
Cooling Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240
Memory 32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT
Storage 3.5TB of SSDs / several small SSDs
Display(s) Acer 27" 4K120 IPS + Lenovo 32" 4K60 IPS
Case Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH
Audio Device(s) Sony WH-CN720N
Power Supply EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse Logitech MX518 / Logitech G400s
Keyboard Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD Oculus Rift CV1
Software Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores They run Crysis
I wouldn't use such old PSUs irrespective of the power draw of any modern system.
I wouldn't even use those to possibly break my precious retro hardware.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,847 (0.80/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software Windows 10 Professional x64

PoolSchools

New Member
Joined
Jan 7, 2022
Messages
11 (0.01/day)
Yeah just happen to have an unused LGA 1150 H81 board with a Celeron G1830, pulled from an HP OEM system, I tried 2 different working PSU's, the one from the Pentium 3 didn't even turn on the system (it also fails to power the Pentium 4 system, only works on P3), the P4 one does work fine (even with only 20 pins), but when I connect a Molex to SATA power plug the CPU fan turns on but it refuses to POST, and I wanted to know why, what changed in ATX specs, rail voltages and PSU design between 2000 and 2008 to make these incompatibilities.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
5,847 (0.80/day)
Location
Ikenai borderline!
System Name Firelance.
Processor Threadripper 3960X
Motherboard ROG Strix TRX40-E Gaming
Cooling IceGem 360 + 6x Arctic Cooling P12
Memory 8x 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4-3200 CL16
Video Card(s) MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Ventus 2X OC
Storage 2TB WD SN850X (boot), 4TB Crucial P3 (data)
Display(s) 3x AOC Q32E2N (32" 2560x1440 75Hz)
Case Enthoo Pro II Server Edition (Closed Panel) + 6 fans
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion+ 2 Platinum 760W
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Razer Pro Type Ultra
Software Windows 10 Professional x64
Yeah just happen to have an unused LGA 1150 H81 board with a Celeron G1830, pulled from an HP OEM system, I tried 2 different working PSU's, the one from the Pentium 3 didn't even turn on the system (it also fails to power the Pentium 4 system, only works on P3), the P4 one does work fine (even with only 20 pins), but when I connect a Molex to SATA power plug the CPU fan turns on but it refuses to POST, and I wanted to know why, what changed in ATX specs, rail voltages and PSU design between 2000 and 2008 to make these incompatibilities.
PSUs contain capacitors. Capacitors, especially electrolytic ones, fail with time. Older PSUs are more likely to contain electrolytic capacitors. Thus the older the PSU, the more likely its capacitors, and therefore it, will fail. And those PSUs are really, really old.

Put them in the damn bin where they belong.
 
Top