Cooler Master GM34-CWQ ARGB

[noel_fs]

Those are not really monitors though. OLED monitors are thousands for a 22in. If you think those LED monitors at 4k 144hz, gsync, proper HDR, and good dimizing zones are price at over 1500 for 27in you ain't seen anything yet. The "cheap and crappy" LG will run you 3k for 27in. Higher grades are doulbe that for 22 in. Top grades are 10k+ for 22in.

i think you are delusional

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

i think you are delusional

Fair enough! Toss some links of OLED monitors and prove me wrong, make me eat my hat.

 

[Mussels]

Waiting for mini LED monitors honestly.

That's only a backlight change - mini LED still use the same old VA and IPS panels
We cant discuss or argue anything you're saying, because you're not actually saying anything.

It's like you've misunderstood the complete basics of how monitor technology works

 

[thewan]

Well it happened again. This time on Tom's Hardware. This makes me wonder how many website reviewers don't actually read properly information presented to them before they post. I'm not even asking you to check with the certification body if the certification is true or not, that's a bonus. But it seems some reviewers seem to think that compatible = certification???. If it does not say certified, do not put it as certified. Thats all I ask.

Maybe reviewers should band together, email Cooler Master and tell them their "compatible" marketing is confusing experienced reviewers, let alone consumers.

Cooler Master GM32-FQ Gaming Monitor Review: Accurate Color, Low Input Lag

The Cooler Master GM32-FQ is a 32-inch IPS/QHD gaming monitor with 165 Hz, Adaptive-Sync, HDR and extended color.

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Review - Cooler Master GM32-FQ Gaming Monitor Review: Accurate Color, Low Input Lag

Cooler Master’s GM32-FQ is a 32-inch IPS/QHD gaming monitor with 165 Hz, Adaptive-Sync HDR and extended color. It also sports near-perfect color accuracy and extremely low input lag. Cooler Master GM32-FQ Gaming Monitor Review: Accurate Color, Low Input Lag : Read more

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[sprezzaa]

I bought this monitor, and returned it. It is damn sad since it has so many good features and can reproduce some serious colors. My main beef is that the screen cant even do 144hz at 8bit IF you run your pc in RGB full dynamic range. The only way was to cut it to 120hz and 8bit, (10bit) is impossible at 144hz, BUT a big but is if you go 4:4:2 limited then u can even go 144hz at 8bit/10bit. 144hz in RGB full dynamic range gave me 6bit, what i found strange is that the DP port is advertising a 1.4 bit my amd software and gpu-z is reporting. 5.4gbps x 4 link wich is DP 1.2. Its a big shame from my point of view that you make such a nice monitor with these kind of issues or even lying. Yes im using the right cable, and Yes i had another 34 ultrawide that i managed to do a 144hz 8bit + frc 3440x1440. Tried to contact CM i had to wait a week to hear: erm strange this is nothing we are aware of kind of company.

 

[Mussels]

I bought this monitor, and returned it. It is damn sad since it has so many good features and can reproduce some serious colors. My main beef is that the screen cant even do 144hz at 8bit IF you run your pc in RGB full dynamic range. The only way was to cut it to 120hz and 8bit, (10bit) is impossible at 144hz, BUT a big but is if you go 4:4:2 limited then u can even go 144hz at 8bit/10bit. 144hz in RGB full dynamic range gave me 6bit, what i found strange is that the DP port is advertising a 1.4 bit my amd software and gpu-z is reporting. 5.4gbps x 4 link wich is DP 1.2. Its a big shame from my point of view that you make such a nice monitor with these kind of issues or even lying. Yes im using the right cable, and Yes i had another 34 ultrawide that i managed to do a 144hz 8bit + frc 3440x1440. Tried to contact CM i had to wait a week to hear: erm strange this is nothing we are aware of kind of company.

What graphics card are you using?
The only reason you should be forced to drop refresh rate is if HDR is enabled, especially on HDMI


The higher bandwidth is an optional feature of DP 1.4, which i discovered with a help thread on my own display - the 1.4 feature adds HDR support, rather than more bandwidth (Which is a compression feature)

 

[sprezzaa]

What graphics card are you using?
The only reason you should be forced to drop refresh rate is if HDR is enabled, especially on HDMI


The higher bandwidth is an optional feature of DP 1.4, which i discovered with a help thread on my own display - the 1.4 feature adds HDR support, rather than more bandwidth (Which is a compression feature)

Never had HDR on mate, i dont do hdr since i dont like it unless its real HDR 1000nits or so. Im using AMD 6800xt. Had no issues on my MSI driving 3440x1440 at 8bit+frc 144hz.

 

[bug]

What graphics card are you using?
The only reason you should be forced to drop refresh rate is if HDR is enabled, especially on HDMI


The higher bandwidth is an optional feature of DP 1.4, which i discovered with a help thread on my own display - the 1.4 feature adds HDR support, rather than more bandwidth (Which is a compression feature)

Eh, just read the product page, it's full of red flags. It doesn't mention the version of DP, HDMI, bandwidths. It looks like a page for a gaming monitor, at best.

 

[sprezzaa]

Eh, just read the product page, it's full of red flags. It doesn't mention the version of DP, HDMI, bandwidths. It looks like a page for a gaming monitor, at best.

Yes man, returned it cant do much more. For you that consider to get this screen running on RGB with out limit dont !

 

[Mussels]

Eh, just read the product page, it's full of red flags. It doesn't mention the version of DP, HDMI, bandwidths. It looks like a page for a gaming monitor, at best.

It does specify the HDMI ports are 2.0 only - it's like many modern displays where they don't use many optional display port features so they're vague on what version it is
DP 1.4 on one of my displays only supports DP 1.2 bandwidth because the monitor doesnt support either compression method

DP standards have a lot of optional features, so DP 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 can all have the exact same bandwidth - just with optional features like compression or HDR

While i'm covering some of the details below i'm not defending CM - i also agree they need to state these things more clearly

As to why i asked about the monitor used, the manual on the website is quite clear that HDMI can't do the high refresh rates - it's extremely detailed about the required pixel clock rates and bandwidths for each mode, and what ports support them

That 776MHz pixel clock shows it's DP 1.4, or at least using the DPC compression because DP 1.2 cant pass 600

 

[sprezzaa]

It does specify the HDMI ports are 2.0 only - it's like many modern displays where they don't use many optional display port features so they're vague on what version it is
DP 1.4 on one of my displays only supports DP 1.2 bandwidth because the monitor doesnt support either compression method

DP standards have a lot of optional features, so DP 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 can all have the exact same bandwidth - just with optional features like compression or HDR
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While i'm covering some of the details below i'm not defending CM - i also agree they need to state these things more clearly



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As to why i asked about the monitor used, the manual on the website is quite clear that HDMI can't do the high refresh rates - it's extremely detailed about the required pixel clock rates and bandwidths for each mode, and what ports support them
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That 776MHz pixel clock shows it's DP 1.4, or at least using the DPC compression because DP 1.2 cant pass 600
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Mate this was one excellent reply and an advanced one but in the end its still sad because who want to run a monitor thats QD in 4:4:2 limited range just to be able to run the screen as advertised... Its beyond me really, like i said before this screen cannot run 144hz while full dynamic ranged on either 4:4:4 or RGB. U have to go 120hz 8 bit or 144hz 6bit. Thank you for such an detailed reply mate.

 

[Mussels]

Mate this was one excellent reply and an advanced one but in the end its still sad because who want to run a monitor thats QD in 4:4:2 limited range just to be able to run the screen as advertised... Its beyond me really, like i said before this screen cannot run 144hz while full dynamic ranged on either 4:4:4 or RGB. U have to go 120hz 8 bit or 144hz 6bit. Thank you for such an detailed reply mate.

HDMI needs the lower settings, display port does not - unless your GPU has an outdated displayport version
I can run 4K60 at 4:2:0 off HDMI on an old GT 730 here, but that same systems IGP wont even detect 4K and locks to 1080p despite being displayport

The whole 6/8 bit thing gets confusing since some places describe it differently, which doesnt help. I go by what the nvidia control panel states, since windows agrees with that (8 bit being common, 10 bit being what HDR uses)

Almost all displays when you enable HDR, drop to 4:2:0 10 bit since they need the bandwidth - I tend to disable HDR for that reason

 

[sprezzaa]

HDMI needs the lower settings, display port does not - unless your GPU has an outdated displayport version
I can run 4K60 at 4:2:0 off HDMI on an old GT 730 here, but that same systems IGP wont even detect 4K and locks to 1080p despite being displayport

The whole 6/8 bit thing gets confusing since some places describe it differently, which doesnt help. I go by what the nvidia control panel states, since windows agrees with that (8 bit being common, 10 bit being what HDR uses)

Almost all displays when you enable HDR, drop to 4:2:0 10 bit since they need the bandwidth - I tend to disable HDR for that reason

But i was not using hdmi, i never do. Im using a Vesa certified 1.4cable, ive used this cable with another msi 34 inch 3440x1440 gotten 144hz 8bit+ frc. And i never used HDR aswell since the monitor isn't a true hdr i dont like to use it. Allways off

 

[Mussels]

But i was not using hdmi, i never do. Im using a Vesa certified 1.4cable, ive used this cable with another msi 34 inch 3440x1440 gotten 144hz 8bit+ frc. And i never used HDR aswell since the monitor isn't a true hdr i dont like to use it. Allways off

You still wont say what GPU, which doesnt help

Some variants of a GPU have lower versions of ports than others, and there are firmware updates for some nvidia cards to help with issues like this - but your refusal to answer questions about the hardware make it impossible to point you in the right direction to avoid future problems like this

 

[bug]

It does specify the HDMI ports are 2.0 only - it's like many modern displays where they don't use many optional display port features so they're vague on what version it is
DP 1.4 on one of my displays only supports DP 1.2 bandwidth because the monitor doesnt support either compression method

DP standards have a lot of optional features, so DP 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 can all have the exact same bandwidth - just with optional features like compression or HDR
View attachment 285786

While i'm covering some of the details below i'm not defending CM - i also agree they need to state these things more clearly



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As to why i asked about the monitor used, the manual on the website is quite clear that HDMI can't do the high refresh rates - it's extremely detailed about the required pixel clock rates and bandwidths for each mode, and what ports support them
View attachment 285784
That 776MHz pixel clock shows it's DP 1.4, or at least using the DPC compression because DP 1.2 cant pass 600
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Yeah, well, when you don't have info like that (versions, bandwidth) on the product page, that's a red flag for me. Even if you put it in the manual. Because really, how many buyers read the manual before buying (if at all)?

 

[sprezzaa]

You still wont say what GPU, which doesnt help

Some variants of a GPU have lower versions of ports than others, and there are firmware updates for some nvidia cards to help with issues like this - but your refusal to answer questions about the hardware make it impossible to point you in the right direction to avoid future problems like this

Ive typed my gpu in previous answers, aorus 6800xt master, supports DP 1.4a

Ive typed my gpu in previous answers, aorus 6800xt master, supports DP 1.4a

And i allready told you that on my previous msi 3440x1440 monitor took it like a champ