Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium driver 2.40.0016 WHQL

[jackbluray]

It is not about that for sure. It is about 19H1 Win10 release for sure.

No because the problem with 19H1 win10 release is known some weeks before the release of this driver.

https://www.ginjfo.com/actualites/l...10-build-18343-debarque-quoi-de-neuf-20190223
Windows 10 build 18343 19H1
23 february 2019
Known issues

• Launching games that use anti-cheat software may trigger a bugcheck (GSOD).
• Creative X-Fi sound cards are not functioning properly. We are partnering with Creative to resolve this issue.

https://www.ginjfo.com/actualites/l...publie-une-premiere-version-pourquoi-20190215
Windows 10 build 1883 20H1
15 february 2019
Known issues

• In Windows Sandbox, if you try to navigate to the Narrator settings, Settings app crashes.
• Creative X-Fi sound cards are not functioning properly. We are partnering with Creative to resolve this issue.

https://www.ginjfo.com/actualites/l...que-avec-des-optimisations-en-gaming-20190211
Windows 10 build 18334
11 february 2019
known issues

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• Creative X-Fi sound cards are not functioning properly. We are partnering with Creative to resolve this issue.

I think that the new driver 2.40.0016 is the correction of the problem with 19h1 and 20h1 win10 and is only for that.

i think that for solve the problem with openal, it must be Microsoft or developpers that ask creative. I think it's the only solution for creative take care about this problem

 

[Ferrum Master]

I think that the new driver 2.40.0016 is the correction of the problem with 19h1 and 20h1 win10 and is only for that.

Not sure, I cannot test.

There was more that, there was one insider stating that the problem is fixed, but the next said that actually still not. That's why I think it is pulled because of that.

 

[jackbluray]

Not sure, I cannot test.

There was more that, there was one insider stating that the problem is fixed, but the next said that actually still not. That's why I think it is pulled because of that.

The aim of this driver is the correction of this problem but with creative, this driver can not solve this problem because creative is not good with driver development .

Other problem that the new driver 2.40.0016 don't correct is the problem with forza horizon 4. The sound is distorted with creative xfi titanium and the only solution is to switch to 7.1 in windows instead of 5.1
https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst131754_-ANSWERED----Creative-X-Fi-Cards.aspx?=

 

[Space Lynx]

This thread has reminded me why I am happy I went to a Modi 3 DAC and stopped all this other nonsense.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I hardly understand the first sentence.

forza horizon 4. The sound is distorted with creative xfi titanium

You can't take some seriously there some bullshit lie posts...

I tried all settings all the way up to 32 Bit 192 KHz

The thing is, that many are wrong, this card does not simply pass-through, even Sound Core device does sound channel mixing on hardware level on the card.

 

[jackbluray]

This thread has reminded me why I am happy I went to a Modi 3 DAC and stopped all this other nonsense.

The problem is that if you want play an old game, the best card are creative cards because of eax support with alchemy.

You can't take some seriously there some bullshit lie posts...



The thing is, that many are wrong, this card does not simply pass-through, even Sound Core device does sound channel mixing on hardware level on the card.

It's not bullshit because you can try the demo and I have the same problem that described in the forza forums. The only solution is to switch to 7.1 and this solution is described in the topic.
i don't care that some persons tell bullshit in the forza topic, it's common at all forums. The only important thing is that distortion sound in forza 4 horizon, is real. Even forza developpers have confirmed the problem.

I hardly understand the first sentence.
.

Sorry for my bad english but I don't know how tell that I want in english.

 

[Ferrum Master]

The only solution is to switch to 7.1 and this solution is described in the topic.

X-Fi does not support 32Bit modes, I don't know from where they pulled that, I treat most of the comments #metoo suspiciously.

 

[jackbluray]

X-Fi does not support 32Bit modes, I don't know from where they pulled that, I treat most of the comments #metoo suspiciously.

I tell you that it's not because some randoms tell stupidity that all tell stupidity.
The problem is real with xfi titanium. If you don't believe me, you can test because microsoft offer a free demo of forza horizon 4 on microsoft store.

X-Fi does not support 32Bit modes,

I don't know what you means but I have noticed that with the last driver 2.40.0016, new output format have appeared :
32 bits 44100hz,48000hz,96000hz.

With other drivers, I had only 16bits and 24 bits.

 

[Space Lynx]

The problem is that if you want play an old game, the best card are creative cards because of eax support with alchemy.


It's not bullshit because you can try the demo and I have the same problem that described in the forza forums. The only solution is to switch to 7.1 and this solution is described in the topic.
i don't care that some persons tell bullshit in the forza topic, it's common at all forums. The only important thing is that distortion sound in forza 4 horizon, is real. Even forza developpers have confirmed the problem.


Sorry for my bad english but I don't know how tell that I want in english.

I am skeptical it sounds that much better versus Modi 3 > Magni 3 > Sennheiser HD58X

 

[jackbluray]

I am skeptical it sounds that much better versus Modi 3 > Magni 3 > Sennheiser HD58X

Without alchemy you can't have 3d sound and advanced sound effect in old game that support eax or directsound 3d.

 

[Space Lynx]

Without alchemy you can't have 3d sound and advanced sound effect in old game that support eax or directsound 3d.

i could care less, I am sure it sounds just fine

 

[jackbluray]

i could care less, I am sure it sounds just fine

Maybe sound is good but I prefer have advanced effect like occlusion in old game than flat 2d sound even if 2d sound is good.

 

[Apocalypsee]

I dont know why people bother to post if they dont bother about the topic in the first place.

Maybe sound is good but I prefer have advanced effect like occlusion in old game than flat 2d sound even if 2d sound is good.

True, once you used to play with EAX you never go back. I cant replay Doom3 without EAX.

 

[INSTG8R]

This thread has reminded me why I am happy I went to a Modi 3 DAC and stopped all this other nonsense.

And you can do multichannel how with that? Yeah, thought so....Some of us prefer 5.1 over stereo and I don’t mean some crap “virtual surround” either.

 

[Sora]

The aim of this driver is the correction of this problem but with creative, this driver can not solve this problem because creative is not good with driver development .

Other problem that the new driver 2.40.0016 don't correct is the problem with forza horizon 4. The sound is distorted with creative xfi titanium and the only solution is to switch to 7.1 in windows instead of 5.1
https://forums.forzamotorsport.net/turn10_postst131754_-ANSWERED----Creative-X-Fi-Cards.aspx?=

Thats not actually a driver issue in its entirety.

It happened with Final Fantasy XV as well, the issue is because 200x Audio products expose multimedia 5.1 instead of Home Theatre 5.1, difference being multimedia 5.1 has rear left and rear right, where as HT 5.1 is surround left and surround right.

7.1 corrects the issue because it has both Surround and Rear channels.

XFI 5.1
FL | FR | C | SW | RL | RR vs

Modern 5.1
FL | FR | C | SW | SL | SR vs

XFI / Modern 7.1
FL | FR | C | SW | SL | SR | RL | RR.

Setting the XFI speaker settings to 7.1 then configuring the windows sounds to 5.1 by disabling the surround channels should get you normal sound.

X-Fi does not support 32Bit modes, I don't know from where they pulled that, I treat most of the comments #metoo suspiciously.

The XFI supports 32bit INT processing, it doesn't support 32bit FLOAT processing.

we need to not mix up output and processing bit sizes.

 

[Ferrum Master]

The XFI supports 32bit INT processing, it doesn't support 32bit FLOAT processing.

we need to not mix up output and processing bit sizes.

Creative based X-FI could support a flying pig... it resides a PCM1794A or a Cirrus Logic CS4382 or CS4398. Those are 24bit, feeding anything else will result in suboptimal operation, use your head. X-Fi does always resampling and mixing on the fly. Thus the problems with kernel mode driver, that is unaware of things and taking away his job.

Only AE-5 from internal cards logically can support 32Bit mode properly. But not about that. The options if are shown, shouldn't be there for older cards.

Well I am not against discussion and generalize this as Creative thread as a whole. But arguments like I don't have it so I am happy doesn't fit here, make your own thread about how wonderful are your USB based devices.

Also the thing about vintage gaming, as gaming specific bugs. USE VINTAGE OS. I just simply don't understand it, is it that hard to dual boot? So if I would like to properly game using Voodoo 3 and Glide API, so yeah, XP latest drivers, quite obviously, even a dedicated PC, will do it, no questions asked. So if I would like to use the same vintage audio api, then it kinda becomes a problem and everyone is bitchy about it and demands something from Creative and spams the whole internet about it. Also about the UWP forcing audio DSP + mixer layer before the actual mixing is done(the Forza case). Microsoft actually just killed again last traces of hardware audio processing, that's only it. Yet some blame fully Creative again. They are both at fault. Creative is fault trying to reanimate their form hardware point superior platform, that is torn apart by headless api changes made by Microsoft, thus making it incompatible, and coding for bare metal is hard and often requires new silicon. Microsoft has rights to alter their OS code so no complaints again towards M$ also. Things like that happen!

We should be grateful that both Microsoft and Creative acknowledges problems and actually does something. We have no right to demand anything for a product that is old over 10 years. For example any Xonar cards are not listed as bsod causing, changing modes, stuttering with latest insiders, yet they are, and Asus nor Cmedia doesn't bat an eye for it. Creative actually does something, still got spanked by someone.
Sometimes such ungratefulness is beyond me.

 

[Sora]

Creative based X-FI could support a flying pig... it resides a PCM1794A or a Cirrus Logic CS4382 or CS4398. Those are 24bit, feeding anything else will result in suboptimal operation, use your head. X-Fi does always resampling and mixing on the fly. Thus the problems with kernel mode driver, that is unaware of things and taking away his job.

Only AE-5 from internal cards logically can support 32Bit mode properly. But not about that. The options if are shown, shouldn't be there for older cards.

Well I am not against discussion and generalize this as Creative thread as a whole. But arguments like I don't have it so I am happy doesn't fit here, make your own thread about how wonderful are your USB based devices.

Also the thing about vintage gaming, as gaming specific bugs. USE VINTAGE OS. I just simply don't understand it, is it that hard to dual boot? So if I would like to properly game using Voodoo 3 and Glide API, so yeah, XP latest drivers, quite obviously, even a dedicated PC, will do it, no questions asked. So if I would like to use the same vintage audio api, then it kinda becomes a problem and everyone is bitchy about it and demands something from Creative and spams the whole internet about it. Also about the UWP forcing audio DSP + mixer layer before the actual mixing is done(the Forza case). Microsoft actually just killed again last traces of hardware audio processing, that's only it. Yet some blame fully Creative again. They are both at fault. Creative is fault trying to reanimate their form hardware point superior platform, that is torn apart by headless api changes made by Microsoft, thus making it incompatible, and coding for bare metal is hard and often requires new silicon. Microsoft has rights to alter their OS code so no complaints again towards M$ also. Things like that happen!

We should be grateful that both Microsoft and Creative acknowledges problems and actually does something. We have no right to demand anything for a product that is old over 10 years. For example any Xonar cards are not listed as bsod causing, changing modes, stuttering with latest insiders, yet they are, and Asus nor Cmedia doesn't bat an eye for it. Creative actually does something, still got spanked by someone.
Sometimes such ungratefulness is beyond me.

The DAC's you cite are placed after the device has already performed its internal processing and only apply to the analog jacks, they do not apply to the Optical port which can output unmodified 32bit bitstream.

 

[Ferrum Master]

The DAC's you cite are placed after the device has already performed its internal processing and only apply to the analog jacks, they do not apply to the Optical port which can output unmodified 32bit bitstream.

What? SPDIF initially handled only 20bits, then 24bit were added. What are you talking about? The X-Fi SRC engine does not do 32Bits. Even the latest Super X-FI only does 24/96 hardware processing. The internal SPDIF is capable only of 24/96. For the recording engine part crippling thank RIAA, they prohibited 24/192 to easy prevent SACD pirating.

I haven't seen consumer SPDIF device accepting 32bit signals either. And never will also because of piracy concerns. HDMI is the solution then.

 

[Sora]

What? SPDIF initially handled only 20bits, then 24bit were added. What are you talking about? The X-Fi SRC engine does not do 32Bits. Even the latest Super X-FI only does 24/96 hardware processing. The internal SPDIF is capable only of 24/96. For the recording engine part crippling thank RIAA, they prohibited 24/192 to easy prevent SACD pirating.

I haven't seen consumer SPDIF device accepting 32bit signals either. And never will also because of piracy concerns. HDMI is the solution then.

Bitstream has only artificial limits.

And why are you referring to the super xfi? it's not even a cac20k part.
the quartet dsp used on the XFI is 32bit, you keep referring back to output specifics where the device is capable of 32bits before it gets anywhere near the output stage.

 

[Space Lynx]

And you can do multichannel how with that? Yeah, thought so....Some of us prefer 5.1 over stereo and I don’t mean some crap “virtual surround” either.

lol you have clearly never been to an audio show. my 2.0 system has better soundstage than any 5.1 setup you have

go listen to some $500 Adam's and get back with me on sound stage.

 

[Sora]

lol you have clearly never been to an audio show. my 2.0 system has better soundstage than any 5.1 setup you have

go listen to some $500 Adam's and get back with me on sound stage.

thats what you virtual audiophiles like to tell yourselves, but it doesn't hold up to a properly configured sound stage with individual speakers.

 

[Space Lynx]

thats what you virtual audiophiles like to tell yourselves, but it doesn't hold up to a properly configured sound stage with individual speakers.

lol you are right the highest paid sound engineers in the world are wrong and you are right, having never been to an audio show to I am guessing as well.

 

[Sora]

lol you are right the highest paid sound engineers in the world are wrong and you are right, having never been to an audio show to I am guessing as well.

The highest paid sound engineers will tell you the sky is purple to go with their bosses thoughts on the matter, to continue getting paid.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Bitstream has only artificial limits.

And why are you referring to the super xfi? it's not even a cac20k part.
the quartet dsp used on the XFI is 32bit, you keep referring back to output specifics where the device is capable of 32bits before it gets anywhere near the output stage.

Because it is the evolution of it. That's why.

Okay. From where did you pull it? Point your finger in the data sheet below? Where? It is done in 24Bits, because of performance, it probably could do 32bits, but at limited 48KHz stereo only without using any additional effects. Can you image how much more re sampling data it needs to pull versus 24bit in order to recalculate it to different sampling? Even more, doing multichannel the card the card has to limit to 96KHz? Have you ever wondered why? The card does sampling scaling to the maximum, then samples back, but not the bitrate. The old chip has limits, is is not software based.

From where did you pull out that 32Bit SPDIF passthrough? Even the Auzentech cards, that had Silicon Image HDMI transceiver didn't pull any gimmics like that.

https://www.creative.com/oem/resources/Chips/CA20K2.pdf

The Story ends here.

10.0.18836.1000
14 FEB '19 14 FEB '19
Apps
Linux Subsystem for Windows

• The file system of a Linux distro can now be accessed from File Explorer <=== AWESOME

And further

• The "Windows Light" theme is now called "Windows (light)"

Fixed issues

• We fixed an issue where turning off Location from the Action Center might take multiple clicks to react.
• We fixed an issue resulting in being unable to re-arrange pinned folders in Start’s tile grid.
• We fixed an issue where newly installed apps might not show up in search results.
• We fixed an issue resulting in some Insiders not being able to open Cortana when in Tablet Mode.
• We fixed an issue from the previous flight where right-clicking the desktop would bring up a light colored context menu in dark theme.
• We fixed an issue where Cortana’s icon on secondary monitors wouldn’t update colors after switching between light and dark theme.
• We fixed an issue where when using light theme + small icons + a vertical taskbar orientation, text written on the taskbar would stay white and thus wouldn’t be readable.
• We fixed an issue that could result in open apps not being shown on the taskbar (but being visible in Alt + Tab).
• We fixed an issue resulting in build unable to log into WinRE with an admin account in the last couple of flights.
• We’ve made another fix to address reports of devices getting stuck with “Hibernating…” text on the screen on resume from hibernate.
• We fixed an issue resulting in greys having an unexpected slight pinkish/purple-ish tinge on some devices in recent flights.
• We fixed an issue in Ease of Access’s Cursor and pointer settings, mouse pointer size and color re now retained on upgrade.
• We fixed an issue where the Windows Security app may show an unknown status for the Virus & threat protection area, or not refresh properly.
• The issue impacting Creative X-Fi sound cards has been fixed.

Known issues

• Launching games that use anti-cheat software may trigger a bugcheck (GSOD).
• While we’ve done some work to improve night light reliability in this build, we’re continuing to investigate issues in this space.
• When performing Reset this PC and selecting Keep my files on a device that has Reserved Storage enabled the user will need to initiate an extra reboot to ensure Reserved Storage is working again properly.
• Some Realtek SD card readers are not functioning properly. We are investigating the issue.
• File Explorer may hang when trying to rename, delete, or move MKV files.
• In Windows Sandbox, if you try to navigate to the Narrator settings, Settings app crashes.

 

[INSTG8R]

lol you have clearly never been to an audio show. my 2.0 system has better soundstage than any 5.1 setup you have

go listen to some $500 Adam's and get back with me on sound stage.

My Paul Bartons say I do know...