Crysis 2 leaked almost 50 days early

[Frick]

the console era, begun it has.

Screw this, I'm installing Jedi Knight again!

 

[TheMailMan78]

this thread needs to be closed and just let it die

Erocker tried. But some nit-wit person who needed tech support to get the leak to run on his sub-par rig reopened it.

 

[erocker]

O'rly? How is your post on topic? Report the post and let the mods deal with it don't fan the flames. You can both butt out of this thread now and not come back. Consider it dealt with.

this thread needs to be closed and just let it die

Erocker tried. But some nit-wit person who needed tech support to get the leak to run on his sub-par rig reopened it.

Interesting... Did you both forget?

Wait, it's probablly best you don't respond here.

 

[TAViX]

the console era, begun it has.

Oh no my friend, it began a long time ago when producers decided that crapsoles are better than PC in terms of CA$H! They were a little right since the Box and PS3 were kinda difficult to crack if not impossible. But this was over last year than even my grandma' can crack an xbox or ps3 now...Just check some torrents site, the pirated console games are overrunning 2:1 the PC ones...heheeek:

 

[AphexDreamer]

Oh no my friend, it began a long time ago when producers decided that crapsoles are better than PC in terms of CA$H! They were a little right since the Box and PS3 were kinda difficult to crack if not impossible. But this was over last year than even my grandma' can crack an xbox or ps3 now...Just check some torrents site, the pirated console games are overrunning 2:1 the PC ones...heheeek:

I agree that console pirating is as severe if not more than PC. First off you have More than one Console versus just one PC (as you clearly stated).

Who do you think is more likely to pirate a game? A PC users who has the cash for a PC that can run Crysis or a lazy person who doesn't want to build a PC or can only afford a console?

I rest my case.

 

[TAViX]

Yep yep yep, but they say that PC piracy is responsible for producers shifting their developm. mainly to consoles, hahaha!!
The irony!!

 

[HalfAHertz]

Yep yep yep, but they say that PC piracy is responsible for producers shifting their developm. mainly to consoles, hahaha!!
The irony!!

Well you're not looking at things objectively. You have to measure things proportionately. I think that we all agree that the console market is larger than the gaming PC market, yes? There are about 50 million PS3s, over 50million Xbox360s( but probably the real number is around half that because half of those have RROD-ed) and about 80 million Wiis. Let's for the sake of argument take out the Wiis because they're not considered adequate gaming platforms by some people.We've still got a market of 75 to 100 million. Now compare that only to the gaming capable PCs and you'll probably end up under 30 million. That number is a very loose guesstimate based on the average high-end and mainstream GPU sales per year which total around somewhere between 7 and 8 million per year and multiplying it by the last 4 years because that's about the time we've had programable shader GPUs.

So even if console games are pirated twice as much as as PC games, the console market is 3 times bigger and therefore the percentage of pirating is lower than that of PC games.

 

[TAViX]

Well you're not looking at things objectively. You have to measure things proportionately. I think that we all agree that the console market is larger than the gaming PC market, yes? There are about 50 million PS3s, over 50million Xbox360s( but probably the real number is around half that because half of those have RROD-ed) and about 80 million Wiis. Let's for the sake of argument take out the Wiis because they're not considered adequate gaming platforms by some people.We've still got a market of 75 to 100 million. Now compare that only to the gaming capable PCs and you'll probably end up under 30 million. That number is a very loose guesstimate based on the average high-end and mainstream GPU sales per year which total around somewhere between 7 and 8 million per year and multiplying it by the last 4 years because that's about the time we've had programable shader GPUs.

So even if console games are pirated twice as much as as PC games, the console market is 3 times bigger and therefore the percentage of pirating is lower than that of PC games.

30 million gaming PCs??! You kidding right???

I think you forgot a 0 back there. Think about it. At least 60-70% of PC all over the world are capable of playing games at good quality levels. A recent study showed that there are aprox 800-900 million PCs out there. Some old some new. Let's say only 35% of them are capable of DX9 gaming...You do the math.

 

[Mussels]

i googled, and there was an estimate of 65 million gaming PC's according to one source i found.

that figure seemed to be based on prebuilt systems however, since they cannot track sales of custom built machines. there are far more gaming PC's than there are of any one console, that cant be argued.

 

[BumbleBee]

I read higher.

"...by the end of 2007, there were more than one billion PCs installed around the world; nearly half have pirated software on them."

furthermore, since even cards released two years ago, such as the 8800GTS/GTX, can still game very effectively, it's still a low-end estimate of the total number of 'gaming' PCs in total. To add to the rough calculations above, this study claims that approximately 196 million gaming PCs were shipped between the third quarter of 2005 and the third quarter of 2008. One last piece of valuable information comes from Roy Taylor of Nvidia who recently stated that: "...there is a very large installed base of GeForce gamers. We estimate that we have over 180 million active GeForce users. That's a much bigger installed base than PS3 or Xbox 360."

 

[Frizz]

I read higher.

Those figures in your quotes imply to me that the PC gaming market isn't doing very well .... considering nearly half of the 1 billion installed PCs have pirated software on them.

 

[HalfAHertz]

Well so much for my guesstimating I based my numbers only on Hi-end and midrange sales and from what I got, those were around 4 million for each of the two manufacturers between H2 2009 and H1 2010

 

[TAViX]

Also. not to mention custom builds, which from my guess are at least double the amount of stand alone PCs...

 

[laszlo]

i re-played the 1st crysis and also warhead and only now i realize that part 2 is a joke compared to the 1st one....

maybe part 3 will be even worst than 2....

 

[lyndonguitar]

Someone with a Nanosuit activated Cloak Mode, Infiltrated Crytek building and stole a copy of Crysis 2, and uploaded it using Nanosuit internet.

 

[n-ster]

Also. not to mention custom builds, which from my guess are at least double the amount of stand alone PCs...

whhhhaaaat? you thinkb there are double the amount of custom built vs OEM? There's like 10X more OEM PCs then there are Custom built

 

[Frick]

Also. not to mention custom builds, which from my guess are at least double the amount of stand alone PCs...

What n-ster said. HP alone sold 62 million PC's last year.

 

[AphexDreamer]

Great article from Tweakguides.com talking about pretty much what we are. It was done in 2010 however.

http://www.tweakguides.com/Piracy_10.html

Taken from there actually.

"Wii: 36 million
XBox 360: 23 million
PlayStation 3: 17 million

That's a total of around 76 million 'next-gen' consoles currently in use globally."

"Estimated 1 billion PCs currently in use around the world, almost 200 million gaming PCs in particular, and around 1.5 billion individuals using the Internet"

 

[TAViX]

whhhhaaaat? you thinkb there are double the amount of custom built vs OEM? There's like 10X more OEM PCs then there are Custom built

I men PC build from scrap, or upgraded into a brand new PC.
For example all my friends are having custom PCs build by themselves from components. Just like me.

Imagine how much more are out there...

 

[streetfighter 2]

Great article from Tweakguides.com talking about pretty much what we are. It was done in 2010 however.

BumbleBee linked to that at one point and I read the whole thing.

Here's my take on it:

I was disappointed that the article did not elaborate on the systemic causes of piracy. As mentioned in the article, China and other countries pirate at a much greater rate than the USA. However the article doesn't mention that due to it's population, China is (likely) responsible for the majority of software piracy worldwide. Why is it that China pirates so much? I believe it is because piracy is culturally accepted in China. Even the government of China is routinely involved in intellectual property theft.

What's also notable is that consoles aren't nearly as prolific in China. If you look at the hardware tables provided by vgchartz* you can see that East Asia/China didn't even get it's own row. It is natural to assume that if China was buying a volume of consoles proportional to other developed countries then the rates of piracy for those consoles would balloon.

Some additional data (of questionable quality ):
Software piracy by country*
Personal computers by country (2004)*

*I have no idea how legitimate this data is.

Also it's my personal opinion that all of the numbers on "gaming computers" are malarkey. I have two or three computers that might be considered "gaming capable", but not by the standards of any proper gamer, and they're also not being used for gaming. People buy game consoles to play games, people buy computers for everything (which may or may not include gaming).

@Shihabyooo - The number of people buying GTX570s are outnumbered by the people buying entry-level (or midrange cards) at least 10:1.

 

[Shihab]

People buy game consoles to play games, people buy computers for everything (which may or may not include gaming)

Agree. But we also should acknowledge the fact that the majority of those who buy high end graphics cards intend to use them for gaming. You don't shell out 400 bucks for a GTX 570 just to use Excel.

Sooooo. Why is this thread still alive ?

 

[TAViX]

Sooooo. Why is this thread still alive ?

Still trying to figure out if we played the demo already or not...?

 

[n-ster]

I men PC build from scrap, or upgraded into a brand new PC.
For example all my friends are having custom PCs build by themselves from components. Just like me.

Imagine how much more are out there...

Still <10% IMO

 

[TAViX]

Still <10% IMO

 

[Frick]

What is so funny? You have any real numbers except your friends?